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Old Aug 8, 2011, 07:22 AM   #1
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does this image flicker on ur 11 or 13" samsung display?

Please state ur MBA panel and year

Mine flashing crzy in still image, not scrolling. Only stop flashing when zoom in

2011 MBA 13" LG
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Old Aug 8, 2011, 07:25 AM   #2
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Old Aug 8, 2011, 09:36 AM   #3
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what about on 2011 MBAs??? especially 13"?
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Old Aug 8, 2011, 09:46 AM   #4
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Not at all on my 11 inch MBA
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Old Aug 8, 2011, 10:02 AM   #5
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only when scrolling, 13" samsung display
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Old Aug 8, 2011, 10:05 AM   #6
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Old Aug 8, 2011, 10:59 AM   #7
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Original size yes, zoomed out no.
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Old Aug 8, 2011, 11:01 AM   #8
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Original size yes, zoomed out no.
so that you have the lg panel
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Old Aug 8, 2011, 11:08 AM   #9
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so that you have the lg panel
You tell me. When I type:

ioreg -lw0 | grep IODisplayEDID | sed "/[^<]*</s///" | xxd -p -r | strings -6

in terminal I get B116XW05.

Under my color profile model number it says: 9CF4
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Old Aug 8, 2011, 11:12 AM   #10
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err.. in safari with LG screen - but I'm not sure that is an issue.
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Old Aug 8, 2011, 11:17 AM   #11
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Test with these patterns:

http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk1.html
http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk2.html
http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk3.html
http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk4.html

Samsung displays are reporting those look fine. LG fails with test #2 (may be more with brightness maxed)
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Old Aug 8, 2011, 11:26 AM   #12
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My point is these tests are pointless. Even if it fails, the likelihood that will impact you is next to nil.

It's like saying my car goes up to 187 miles an hour, but it should hit 194.

It fails all with full brightness.
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Old Aug 8, 2011, 11:27 AM   #13
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I want to change my answer. I didn't realize the issue at hand was if the image was flashing when it was not moving. With my panel it does not flash at all when I don't move it. Only when scrolling.
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Old Aug 8, 2011, 11:29 AM   #14
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My point is these tests are pointless. Even if it fails, the likelihood that will impact you is next to nil.

It's like saying my car goes up to 187 miles an hour, but it should hit 194.

It fails all with full brightness.
Except I saw this on an actual webpage, it's how I noticed it to begin with. Now the instance of that is rare (obviously depends on the webpage imagery), but what gets me is that one can buy a pretty expensive piece of equipment and have it randomly be either pretty darn good, or somewhat lacking.
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Old Aug 8, 2011, 11:47 AM   #15
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Old Aug 8, 2011, 01:25 PM   #16
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You tell me. When I type:

ioreg -lw0 | grep IODisplayEDID | sed "/[^<]*</s///" | xxd -p -r | strings -6

in terminal I get B116XW05.

Under my color profile model number it says: 9CF4
It's either bmx, BMW, or B52
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Old Aug 8, 2011, 02:02 PM   #17
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It's either bmx, BMW, or B52
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Old Aug 8, 2011, 02:14 PM   #18
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Except I saw this on an actual webpage, it's how I noticed it to begin with. Now the instance of that is rare (obviously depends on the webpage imagery), but what gets me is that one can buy a pretty expensive piece of equipment and have it randomly be either pretty darn good, or somewhat lacking.
I would have to agree then. I thought all those pages went away when geocities folded
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Old Aug 8, 2011, 02:19 PM   #19
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I would have to agree then. I thought all those pages went away when geocities folded
Haha, yeah, you'd think so. The page I saw it on was http://makemkv.com/
I was researching how to get all my BD discs onto a media server.
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Old Aug 8, 2011, 02:59 PM   #20
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yah, i see it at the top..

:/

That's a bit of a bummer.

Well, I'm in the lottery again, though I am firmly convinced that I can't' get lucky three times in a row... it will be progressively worse.

samsung, samsung
samsung, lg
?? - knowing my luck toshiba / lg - though I guess the odds are skewed based on which factory is cranking them out faster.

Still, $1360 + gift card is a fair bit more than $987 - so I guess I have to live with it either way.
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Old Aug 8, 2011, 03:05 PM   #21
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My 2011 11" LG flashes like crazy - was shocked.
My 2009 17" MBP does not show any flashing at all.

Interestingly my 2010 11" MBA, my primary computer since October last year, flashes like crazy. I have NEVER noticed this on any website, photo, or anything displayed on my screen.

This is not a fault. This is not an issue. It is merely a property of some LCD's. In real world circumstances, it will not affect 99.999% of people.
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Old Aug 8, 2011, 03:11 PM   #22
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Old Aug 8, 2011, 05:53 PM   #23
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My 2011 11" LG flashes like crazy - was shocked.
My 2009 17" MBP does not show any flashing at all.

Interestingly my 2010 11" MBA, my primary computer since October last year, flashes like crazy. I have NEVER noticed this on any website, photo, or anything displayed on my screen.

This is not a fault. This is not an issue. It is merely a property of some LCD's. In real world circumstances, it will not affect 99.999% of people.
Excellent point. It's not really worth to me to hassle with the lottery. My understanding if you turn the brightness down on the LG, you really only notice it on one of the patterns. And I've read the Samsung panels show some flicker when scrolling (as does the LG obviously). It's a very minor thing I think.
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Old Aug 8, 2011, 06:08 PM   #24
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I have the 2011 11"MBA Samsung screen and no there does not appear to be any issue
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Old Aug 9, 2011, 01:52 AM   #25
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No flickering here -- 2011 MBA i5/4/128 Samsung
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