911

[Michaelgtrusa]

911...

[(marc)]

Thanks for today's cup of pathetic, flag-wielding patriotism.

[chrono1081]

Originally Posted by (marc)

Thanks for today's cup of pathetic, flag-wielding patriotism.

Thank you for todays cup of pathetic, unfounded criticism of those remembering a national tragedy.

Seriously if you don't like it, don't comment.

[MorphingDragon]

Originally Posted by chrono1081

Thank you for todays cup of pathetic, unfounded criticism of those remembering a national tragedy.

Seriously if you don't like it, don't comment.

All these 9/11 threads make me lose faith in the Internet.

[iJohnHenry]

Originally Posted by MorphingDragon

All these 9/11 threads make me lose faith in the Internet.

People expressing opinions you don't agree with???

[redAPPLE]

...and i thought the thread was about the emergency number...

[soco]

Originally Posted by chrono1081

Thank you for todays cup of pathetic, unfounded criticism of those remembering a national tragedy.

Seriously if you don't like it, don't comment.

Right back at you, sweetpea. If you don't like his opinion, comment on his opinion. But don't you dare tell him to keep his trap shut.

Equally, I'm sick of the "fake" patriotism that stemmed from 9/11. Too many people bleeding red, white & blue who couldn't and didn't care worth a penny on and before 9/10. Such bs.

I like this country just fine. But I'm far from in love with it. I'm not going to run around acting like it's better than it is. We did a LOT of terrible things as a country over the years, and we were attacked by some crazy people with crazy ideas. Very sad indeed. But I'm of the opinion that it doesn't necessarily warrant everyone's reaction.

I feel like it's the equivilent of when there are a hundred accidents a year on a busy road and a decent amount of people are killed per year, and one year a sweet little girl gets run over. All of a sudden the road MUST be changed and a new law MUST be passed. Memorials aplenty and legislation will move faster than Usain Bolt. It's such horsecrap. Did the people killed in the years before not count? Were their deaths unimportant?

We only freak out and get all up in arms about things when it's heartwrenching. Go take your fake patriotism and cry about the thousands of troops that have died "liberating" Iraq. Hurry up with their giant memorial and plan their yearly over-hyped and over-sensationalized TV speicals.

I guess not though. Because instead of dying a few at a time as they have, you'd rather they all die at once. There's shock factor there. Then we'd all go, "Oh my GOD IN HEAVEN! All those troops!!! OH THE HUMANITY!!!!"

Meh.

[roadbloc]

Yawn. It's 9/12 now. Let's not mention this topic for another year shall we?

[soco]

Originally Posted by roadbloc

Yawn. It's 9/12 now. Let's not mention this topic for another year shall we?

Exactly my point. It's no longer cool or patriotically necessary to discuss it or give it a thought. Move along everyone. Time for Monday night football and fondue with little cut up bananas.

[chrono1081]

Originally Posted by Mr. Pink

Right back at you, sweetpea. If you don't like his opinion, comment on his opinion. But don't you dare tell him to keep his trap shut.

Equally, I'm sick of the "fake" patriotism that stemmed from 9/11. Too many people bleeding red, white & blue who couldn't and didn't care worth a penny on and before 9/10. Such bs.

I like this country just fine. But I'm far from in love with it. I'm not going to run around acting like it's better than it is. We did a LOT of terrible things as a country over the years, and we were attacked by some crazy people with crazy ideas. Very sad indeed. But I'm of the opinion that it doesn't necessarily warrant everyone's reaction.

I feel like it's the equivilent of when there are a hundred accidents a year on a busy road and a decent amount of people are killed per year, and one year a sweet little girl gets run over. All of a sudden the road MUST be changed and a new law MUST be passed. Memorials aplenty and legislation will move faster than Usain Bolt. It's such horsecrap. Did the people killed in the years before not count? Were their deaths unimportant?

We only freak out and get all up in arms about things when it's heartwrenching. Go take your fake patriotism and cry about the thousands of troops that have died "liberating" Iraq. Hurry up with their giant memorial and plan their yearly over-hyped and over-sensationalized TV speicals.

I guess not though. Because instead of dying a few at a time as they have, you'd rather they all die at once. There's shock factor there. Then we'd all go, "Oh my GOD IN HEAVEN! All those troops!!! OH THE HUMANITY!!!!"

Meh.

Wow do you listen to yourself at all? I'm glad I do not know you in real life.

[snberk103]

Originally Posted by chrono1081

Wow do you listen to yourself at all? I'm glad I do not know you in real life.

Why? Mr. Pink makes some good points. As tragic as 9/11 was (and still is for many) it doesn't hurt to try and see that even in perspective.

[chrono1081]

Originally Posted by snberk103

Why? Mr. Pink makes some good points. As tragic as 9/11 was (and still is for many) it doesn't hurt to try and see that even in perspective.

I agree with some of his statements like this:

"Equally, I'm sick of the "fake" patriotism that stemmed from 9/11. Too many people bleeding red, white & blue who couldn't and didn't care worth a penny on and before 9/10. Such bs.

I like this country just fine. But I'm far from in love with it. I'm not going to run around acting like it's better than it is. We did a LOT of terrible things as a country over the years, and we were attacked by some crazy people with crazy ideas. Very sad indeed. But I'm of the opinion that it doesn't necessarily warrant everyone's reaction."

But I'm not of the mindset to criticize someone like the OP or defend people who criticize the OP for simply remembering a national tragedy. If someone were to post about remembering the Christchurch earthquake or the Japan tsunami and for some reason I didn't agree with it the last thing I would do is criticize the poster or defend anyone who did criticize them.

I understand there is free speech and all but there is also something called "tact" which many posters here lack.

[killerrobot]

I'm thinking the OP posted that picture with the thread title 911 as in "Someone call 911 I looked at this picture and I can't get it out of my head".

[soco]

Originally Posted by chrono1081

I agree with some of his statements like this:

"Equally, I'm sick of the "fake" patriotism that stemmed from 9/11. Too many people bleeding red, white & blue who couldn't and didn't care worth a penny on and before 9/10. Such bs.

I like this country just fine. But I'm far from in love with it. I'm not going to run around acting like it's better than it is. We did a LOT of terrible things as a country over the years, and we were attacked by some crazy people with crazy ideas. Very sad indeed. But I'm of the opinion that it doesn't necessarily warrant everyone's reaction."

But I'm not of the mindset to criticize someone like the OP or defend people who criticize the OP for simply remembering a national tragedy. If someone were to post about remembering the Christchurch earthquake or the Japan tsunami and for some reason I didn't agree with it the last thing I would do is criticize the poster or defend anyone who did criticize them.

I understand there is free speech and all but there is also something called "tact" which many posters here lack.

chrono, I completely understand where you're coming from and for the most part, I agree. The only difference in our opinions here is that people like the OP (in my opinion) do what they do to garner attention. It's a, "Hey guys! Look at how patriotic I am!" move and I find it disgusting and ingenuous.

Even if the OP had posted the same thing, but in remembrance or recognition of the Christchurch earthquake, I'd call bs again. Everyone on MR would read it and collectively think to themselves, "Uh... ok then? Does this guy have family that died?"

It's just an odd expectation on the part of the OP. If this thread had gone positively, what would we have said?

OP: <picture>
Replies: Yeah man! I love America! God bless those souls.
(awkward silence...)

[Firestar]

Day late... And there's already like four threads about 9/11...

[AdrianK]

Originally Posted by Firestar

Day late... And there's already like four threads about 9/11...

I hear that some of them have substance *shrug*

[eawmp1]

Originally Posted by Firestar

Day late... And there's already like four threads about 9/11...

No...just 364 days early.

[Firestar]

Originally Posted by eawmp1

No...just 364 days early.

365. 2012 is a leap year.

[eawmp1]

Originally Posted by Firestar

365. 2012 is a leap year.

Touché

[snberk103]

Originally Posted by eawmp1

No...just 364 days early.

Originally Posted by Firestar

365. 2012 is a leap year.

Originally Posted by eawmp1

Touché

Techies.... sigh. Some of the artists I hang around with would need to think a moment about how many days are in a year, leap or otherwise.

[iJohnHenry]

Originally Posted by snberk103

Techies.... sigh. Some of the artists I hang around with would need to think a moment about how many days are in a year, leap or otherwise.

Mouth-breathers are contagious. I try to avoid them.

[(marc)]

Originally Posted by AhmedFaisal

After hundreds of thousands of unwarranted deaths of Iraqi and Afghan civilians at US hands in reaction to 911, I gotta ask, what's the big deal about 3000 deaths at the WTC? That they weren't "ragheads" or "sandniggers" to use some of the lovely terms US political pundits and soldiers have used?

Yes, Americans are first-class people, while everybody else is just a second-class person. That explains pathetic patriotism such as the OP demonstrated, the hero-worshipping of the army, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, etc...

[Thomas Veil]

Originally Posted by Firestar

Day late... And there's already like four threads about 9/11...

Exactly.

As to whether the patriotism is inappropriate...I have to admit being put off by the eagle/flag/war motif of the OP's photo. It could almost be one of Stephen Colbert's parodies.

If you wanted to commemorate 9/11, there are lots better pictures to choose from.

[likemyorbs]

I find it incredible how many people on this thread trivialize 9/11 and post your anti-american "9/11 was provoked" nonsense. Fine then, you say 9/11 was provoked, i say iraq and afghanistan were provoked as well. The funny part is that none of you would say any of this in real life to a victim's family. Must be easy to hide behind computer screens like cowards.

[soco]

Originally Posted by likemyorbs

I find it incredible how many people on this thread trivialize 9/11 and post your anti-american "9/11 was provoked" nonsense.

As incredible as you may find it, it's happening. In the grand scheme of all of the things that have happened in the world, it is trivial. It's also horrible and very tragic. No one's making it seem like an average day. Something atrocious happened. When it comes down to it, no one goes making random threads on the anniversaries of TONS of other horrifying mass-murders. That's the hypocracy.

Originally Posted by likemyorbs

Fine then, you say 9/11 was provoked, i say iraq and afghanistan were provoked as well. The funny part is that none of you would say any of this in real life to a victim's family. Must be easy to hide behind computer screens like cowards.

Is that some sort of retort? I agree with you lol. Iraq and Afghanistan were definitely provoked. Not many wars or attacks happen for TRULY no reason. Something starts it.

As for the "funny part," my closest friend at work has 2 family members and 6 or something friends that died on 9/11. I said all of this to her from 4 feet away, desk to desk. So watch your nameslinging.

I wasn't an ass about it either. I didn't go on a tirade. I simply expressed an opinion when the discussion came up over lunch yesterday. Biggest "funny part"?...

She agrees.