Appeals Court Sides with Apple in Dispute over Psystar's Unauthorized Mac Clones

MacRumors · Sep 29, 2011, 11:12 AM

It has taken nearly two years, but CNET reports that an appeals court has ruled in favor of Apple in its lawsuit against Psystar, a company that began selling unauthorized Mac clones back in 2008.

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Circuit Judge Mary Schroeder ruled yesterday that Psystar's Mac clones violated copyrights Apple holds, and its ban on sales will be upheld. According to Judge Schroeder, Psystar specifically violated copyrights Apple holds in Mac OS X, and said that the U.S. District Court's ruling in favor of Apple was just.

Apple was awarded a permanent injunction against Psystar in December 2009, but Psystar appealed the decision to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit a month later.

Psystar's 2009 last-ditch effort to raise funds for its legal fight against Apple

Psystar was unusually defiant in its stance against Apple given the threat it faced from the substantially larger company, and extended its legal efforts well beyond what most small companies would typically be willing to engage in. Those efforts lead Apple to suggest that Psystar could have been part of a conspiracy with the backing of a larger entity attempting to break open Apple's stranglehold on Mac OS X systems, but no concrete evidence of such a connection has ever been exposed.

Article Link: Appeals Court Sides with Apple in Dispute over Psystar's Unauthorized Mac Clones

soco · Sep 29, 2011, 11:13 AM

Holy touchdown Jesus, I barely remember when this started lol I remember even less clearly how I almost ordered one...

adder7712 · Sep 29, 2011, 11:15 AM

I have completely forgotten about the Pystar(sp) and Apple fiasco...

nerdo · Sep 29, 2011, 11:18 AM

Always wondered where that money came from and how they could afford being so defiant. Who knows, perhaps some internet bubble money went into this.

KnightWRX · Sep 29, 2011, 11:19 AM

The only surprise here is that it took this long to get upheld. Seriously, Psystar should have given up after the first cease and desist letter, their business plan never made any sense.

Kid A · Sep 29, 2011, 11:19 AM

Worst. T-shirt. EVER.

Hastings101 · Sep 29, 2011, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MacRumors

Those efforts lead Apple to suggest that Psystar could have been part of a conspiracy with the backing of a larger entity attempting to break open Apple's stranglehold on Mac OS X systems, but no concrete evidence of such a connection has ever been exposed.

Oh please lol, if I wanted to read nonsense like that I could go to one of those schizophrenic websites like Above Top Secret

D.T. · Sep 29, 2011, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Hastings101

Oh please lol, if I wanted to read nonsense like that I could go to one of those schizophrenic websites like Above Top Secret

Only somebody in on it would say something like that...

anonicon · Sep 29, 2011, 11:25 AM

Psystar lost, but they did help point the way for hackintoshes:

http://lifehacker.com/5841604/the-al...g-a-hackintosh - from 9/19/2011

http://lifehacker.com/5672051/how-to...ght-easy-steps - from 2010

http://lifehacker.com/5360150/instal...cking-required - from 2009

Which, if you're comfortable plugging components in, is pretty viable.

RoboCop001 · Sep 29, 2011, 11:28 AM

It must have been the 3 families behind this! No one else can hide that well.

Clearly there's no other explanation!!

Am I right??

OrangeSVTguy · Sep 29, 2011, 11:29 AM

Were they(phystar) including a copy of OSX with their machines or were they just selling the systems pre-configured fully and compatible without an OS installed?

Hastings101 · Sep 29, 2011, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by D.T.

Only somebody in on it would say something like that...

I've been secretly funding Pystar for years, but I'll never admi- oh oops

Kaibelf · Sep 29, 2011, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeSVTguy

Were they(phystar) including a copy of OSX with their machines or were they just selling the systems pre-configured fully and compatible without an OS installed?

If i recall correctly they were preinstalled with an altered version or something like that.

KnightWRX · Sep 29, 2011, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by anonicon

Psystar lost, but they did help point the way for hackintoshes:

Actually, wasn't Psystar just ripping off the hackintosh community's work for their own purposes ? I think you got the roles reversed here. It's the hackintoshes that paved the way for Psystar.

Skika · Sep 29, 2011, 11:35 AM

Psy-who?

adztaylor · Sep 29, 2011, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by nerdo

Always wondered where that money came from and how they could afford being so defiant. Who knows, perhaps some internet bubble money went into this.

I always wondered this too. There's noway they got there by selling those t-shirts.

Consultant · Sep 29, 2011, 11:37 AM

Samsung, you are next.

bacaramac · Sep 29, 2011, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaibelf

If i recall correctly they were preinstalled with an altered version or something like that.

I know they were providing copies of the OS which was a huge issue. Man that was a long time ago. Forgot all about this case.

D.T. · Sep 29, 2011, 11:40 AM

Isn't this also the company whose business address was the home of one of the owners Mom?

I seem to recall some Google map images circulating.

greenmeanie · Sep 29, 2011, 11:43 AM

Who cares where the money came from?
Should the rich be the only one who should win a court case?

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Originally Posted by nerdo

Always wondered where that money came from and how they could afford being so defiant. Who knows, perhaps some internet bubble money went into this.

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Don't forget TONYMAC the best way to run a hackingtosh.

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Originally Posted by anonicon

Psystar lost, but they did help point the way for hackintoshes:

http://lifehacker.com/5841604/the-al...g-a-hackintosh - from 9/19/2011

http://lifehacker.com/5672051/how-to...ght-easy-steps - from 2010

http://lifehacker.com/5360150/instal...cking-required - from 2009

Which, if you're comfortable plugging components in, is pretty viable.

cmaier · Sep 29, 2011, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by KnightWRX

The only surprise here is that it took this long to get upheld. Seriously, Psystar should have given up after the first cease and desist letter, their business plan never made any sense.

And yet I spent a lot of time reading arguments from folks telling me I was wrong when I explained why Psytar would lose.

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Originally Posted by anonicon

Psystar lost, but they did help point the way for mackintoshes:

Nice revisionist history.

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Originally Posted by KnightWRX

Actually, wasn't Psystar just ripping off the hackintosh community's work for their own purposes ? I think you got the roles reversed here. It's the hackintoshes that paved the way for Psystar.

Exactly.

AAPLaday · Sep 29, 2011, 11:48 AM

Good news. I dont have a problem with people making hackintoshes themselves but a company shouldn't be selling clones for profit

Dae · Sep 29, 2011, 11:50 AM

They should have been selling Mac OS X / EFI / whatever-enabled PCs and the retail version of OS X, providing an instruction how to install it.

42streetsdown · Sep 29, 2011, 11:52 AM

I don't understand why the case even still existed up to this point. Psystar stop existing a while back right? Or maybe i don't understand how bankruptcy works.

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Originally Posted by RoboCop001

It must have been the 3 families behind this! No one else can hide that well.

Clearly there's no other explanation!!

Am I right??

I don't think many people will get your joke.

dantherevelator · Sep 29, 2011, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MacRumors

[...]break open Apple's stranglehold on Mac OS X systems[...]

STRANGLEHOLD?!? Stranglehold? Oh, come on.

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Kid A macrumors regular Join Date: May 2008	Worst. T-shirt. EVER.
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