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barbmac

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Oct 15, 2011
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I realized that when the iphone (running iOS5) is locked, the“Slide to Call” allows anyone to make an outgoing call to the missed calls from a locked phone (with passcode). This may allow malicious and unwanted calls to be made from a locked phone by anyone having access to the phone and defeats the purpose of having the phone locked by a passcode.

Don't get me wrong, it is nice feature for people who don't care about locking their phone, but I believe there should be an option to disable the “slide to call” or at least require password before allowing the outgoing call to go through.


At this point the only option that I see is to disable the phone related notifications from lock screen, which prevents all phone related notifications to be displayed on lock screen (missed or voicemail). This is not a desired solution.....


This is the first time in the history of iOSes, that a user can make outgoing calls from a locked phone with a passcode. Even the voice commands (for dialling a number) have option to be disabled on locked screen.


I was wondering if anybody else feels the same way about this? or have a solution?
 

blackjackmark

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Apr 19, 2010
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Where are you seeing a "Slide to Call" box? On my 4S only emergency calls can be made (i.e. to 911) when the phone is locked, and that's by touching the button on the lower left of the passcode screen. I just tried calling a non-emergency number and it will not allow it.
 

thewitt

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Sep 13, 2011
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Change the Required Passcode delay to Immediately and you will always have to enter the passcode to get back into your phone for any function. Right now your delay is longer than your auto lock delay.
 

barbmac

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Oct 15, 2011
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1. Phone is locked with passcode
2. you miss a call from someone (but no voicemail is left)
3. the missed call notification appears on the lock screen
4. slide the missed call icon to right and it will dial the number without requiring to enter password...

[I am concerned that people finding someone's phone with missed call can keep calling those numbers...that's what happened to me when i left my phone at my friend's house yesterday... people were prank calling the missed call numbers from my locked phone!!!!]
 

Mascots

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Sep 5, 2009
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1. Phone is locked with passcode
2. you miss a call from someone (but no voicemail is left)
3. the missed call notification appears on the lock screen
4. slide the missed call icon to right and it will dial the number without requiring to enter password...

[I am concerned that people finding someone's phone with missed call can keep calling those numbers...that's what happened to me when i left my phone at my friend's house yesterday... people were prank calling the missed call numbers from my locked phone!!!!]

There is no way to disable this other than hiding missed call notifications on your home screen. Since you can only call out to numbers you missed, I don't really see it as a big deal.

However, it sounds like you shouldn't be leaving your phone around with your friends...
 

barbmac

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Oct 15, 2011
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Based on my yesterday's experience, to me it is a big issue since it caused a lot of embarrassment on my behalf but I hope they will make this feature optional to prevent similar kind of events... but meanwhile i have learned my lesson and I am more protective of my phone now!
 

Steve28

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Jun 14, 2011
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1. Phone is locked with passcode
2. you miss a call from someone (but no voicemail is left)
3. the missed call notification appears on the lock screen
4. slide the missed call icon to right and it will dial the number without requiring to enter password...

[I am concerned that people finding someone's phone with missed call can keep calling those numbers...that's what happened to me when i left my phone at my friend's house yesterday... people were prank calling the missed call numbers from my locked phone!!!!]

This only happens if you do #4 before the auto-lock timeout. My phone it's set to 15 min. So if the phone has not been used for more than 15 it asks for the pin when you slide the missed call icon.

You can set you lock timeout to immediate or something low like 1 min.
 

barbmac

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Oct 15, 2011
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This only happens if you do #4 before the auto-lock timeout. My phone it's set to 15 min. So if the phone has not been used for more than 15 it asks for the pin when you slide the missed call icon.

You can set you lock timeout to immediate or something low like 1 min.


My setting is on "require passcode immediately".
Before I do a "slide o call" on missed calls I try to make sure that the phone requires a passcode... so I am definitely sure in my case the phone is locked by passcode. I m using an iphone 3gs...

what is your phone? can you please try again on yours? i am more concerned now that yours is acting different....
 

barbmac

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Oct 15, 2011
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Go to the Notifications in the Settings, Select Phone, turn off "View in Lock Screen"

Doing that will disable all the missed call and voicemail notification from lock screen...I will never know if someone has called or left a voicemail unless i unlock my phone and look at the badges on the phone icon...

i agree at the moment this is the only option if someone is concerned about this issue...but needs to be addressed some other way...
 

protobiont

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Jul 6, 2010
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Based on my yesterday's experience, to me it is a big issue since it caused a lot of embarrassment on my behalf but I hope they will make this feature optional to prevent similar kind of events... but meanwhile i have learned my lesson and I am more protective of my phone now!

What was the experience?
 

BBQXXX

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May 10, 2011
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The phone didn't cause embarrassment. Your friends did. Sounds like you need to get some more mature friends...
 

IcyStorm

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Oct 24, 2010
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You guys tell the OP that his friends need to be mature and all that, but it doesn't fix the issue. I believe this is a genuine concern that needs to be rectified in a future update.
 

zorinlynx

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May 31, 2007
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Based on my yesterday's experience, to me it is a big issue since it caused a lot of embarrassment on my behalf but I hope they will make this feature optional to prevent similar kind of events... but meanwhile i have learned my lesson and I am more protective of my phone now!

Hate to tell you this, but if your friends do this, they don't respect you. You might want to have a talk with them.

My friends wouldn't do this, and if one did, I'd have to seriously question their friend status.
 

blueroom

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Feb 15, 2009
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Think of what they'll do if you leave your Facebook account open. After all what are friends for if not the occasional prank?
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barbmac

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Oct 15, 2011
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I understand the friends part of it. Ok they are not good friends.....let's give that a rest...this is a tech forum and the topic is not “how to find good friends” or “how to tell If your friends our mature”....

let's be more constructive to identify issues and make sure that they get addressed. We are here for that reason.

Again the main issue is that phone allows outgoing call to be made when the phone is locked....
 

Hephaestus

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Apr 4, 2010
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barbmac is right about this. I have my passcode set to "immediate" and if I slide the phone icon of a missed call it dials the number, there is no password prompt like the other guy said, so not sure where he got that from.

I can definitely see this being a problem, it could also cause accidental calls from the phone. Well spotted barbmac this needs to be fixed.
 

sukanas

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Nov 15, 2007
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im pretty sure apple will fix this. if youre disappointed or embarrassed, go buy a different phone.
 
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ru4real

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May 19, 2010
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It is, and im certain itll be addressed and fixed.

Why are you so certain? Has Apple notified you that they are aware of the problem and working on it? Apple doesn't always fix things that users aren't happy with.
 

barbmac

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Oct 15, 2011
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im pretty sure apple will fix this. if youre disappointed or embarrassed, go buy a different phone.

You should understand that the products get mature and complete with the constructive feedback of its users. If Apple knew about this then we wouldn't be talking about it now. That's why the product goes through developer testing for months then through users...and different iterations come out based on the issues/concerns discovered...
 
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