Separate AirPort/Networking forum

BreakGuy · Dec 29, 2011, 06:47 PM

After a quick search of this forum, I found this has been suggested twice before, last almost four years ago... perhaps it's time for a revisit of the idea.

I've noticed a lot of threads springing up surrounding AirPort, AirPlay and other networking devices, but no real definitive forum for these to go into. The only two forums that look to have anything to do with AirPort/Networking are the 'Mac Peripherals' and 'Mac OS X Server, Xserve, and Networking', neither of these I feel are sufficient for the large quantity of queries regarding the aforementioned matters.

As AirPort, AirPlay (and networking) is a large part of the Apple universe, perhaps it's time for a separate forum exclusive for these issues.

Your thoughts?

GGJstudios · Dec 29, 2011, 07:06 PM

I don't see how this can be separated to another forum, since many of the networking issues also involve settings on a particular Mac model, as well. Between Apple and non-Apple routers, various Mac models, printers, Time Capsules, iPods, iPhones, iPads, etc., network topics spill over to many areas. I just don't see how all that can be confined to one forum.

BreakGuy · Dec 29, 2011, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GGJstudios

I don't see how this can be separated to another forum, since many of the networking issues also involve settings on a particular Mac model, as well. Between Apple and non-Apple routers, various Mac models, printers, Time Capsules, iPods, iPhones, iPads, etc., network topics spill over to many areas. I just don't see how all that can be confined to one forum.

While true, the core issue remains the same. Questions surrounding network setups and troubleshooting are usually resolved with adjusting settings on the affected devices, whether they be a Mac computer, and AirPort device or a 3rd party networking component. Having a forum for just these issues makes it easier to search through and find issues that others have had and the answers. (Nothing worse than having to search all over the board to find an answer that could be located in one forum).

SandboxGeneral · Dec 30, 2011, 10:08 AM

I think this would be a good idea, but make it more generic and not use Apple or other company proprietary names within the title.

Maybe call it a "Computer Networking" forum, which can encompass LAN's, WAN's, routers (wireless & hardwired), switches, firewalls (hardware & software), fiber mux's and general network security.

All this stuff is relevant to OS X & iOS, yet is agnostic towards them and Windows, Linux etc... The protocols remain the same across platforms.

We have Mac OS X Server, Xserve, and Networking but that title really limits the scope of what it's intention is for.

I bet munkery would have plenty to contribute in this field and in this potential new forum.

balamw · Dec 30, 2011, 10:14 AM

Maybe something like this could fly as a sub forum to Mac Basics and Help?

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Consultant · Dec 30, 2011, 10:27 AM

Yeah most network help threads I've seen are under the 'Mac OS X Server, Xserve, and Networking' section.

But I am guessing more people buy airport products than OS X server

BreakGuy · Jan 4, 2012, 06:48 PM

Would have thought there'd have been a bit more discussion on this issue by now..

Macman45 · Jan 4, 2012, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SandboxGeneral

I think this would be a good idea, but make it more generic and not use Apple or other company proprietary names within the title.

Maybe call it a "Computer Networking" forum, which can encompass LAN's, WAN's, routers (wireless & hardwired), switches, firewalls (hardware & software), fiber mux's and general network security.

All this stuff is relevant to OS X & iOS, yet is agnostic towards them and Windows, Linux etc... The protocols remain the same across platforms.

We have Mac OS X Server, Xserve, and Networking but that title really limits the scope of what it's intention is for.

I bet munkery would have plenty to contribute in this field and in this potential new forum.

I like this...It's a particular field of interest of mine. Having a generic title as suggested by SandboxGeneral is all encompassing and would work well.

miles01110 · Jan 5, 2012, 02:07 AM

I don't think there are enough threads to merit a separate networking forum. Then again, we still have "Dsitributed Computing" ...

BreakGuy · Jan 5, 2012, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by miles01110

I don't think there are enough threads to merit a separate networking forum. Then again, we still have "Dsitributed Computing" ...

There are plenty of threads regarding networking and wireless problems to warrant a forum of its own.

miles01110 · Jan 6, 2012, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BreakGuy

There are plenty of threads regarding networking and wireless problems to warrant a forum of its own.

Provide evidence to support your claim. I don't see more networking threads than I do battery life threads. Maybe we should create a battery life forum instead.

Macman45 · Jan 6, 2012, 03:00 AM

It's really a question of specifics I suppose... But it does seem to make sense to have all router/ wifi / Ethernet / network connectivity issues in one place.

BreakGuy · Jan 6, 2012, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miles01110

Provide evidence to support your claim. I don't see more networking threads than I do battery life threads. Maybe we should create a battery life forum instead.

miles01110 · Jan 6, 2012, 03:37 AM

Those could all go into Mac Peripherals.

Macman45 · Jan 6, 2012, 03:41 AM

I don't think getting bogged down in argument is all that productive. It's sort of a general housekeeping issue. A separate place for all things Network.

BreakGuy · Jan 6, 2012, 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miles01110

Those could all go into Mac Peripherals.

The Mac Peripherals forum description makes no mention of networking or AirPort, thus people get confused as to where to post their threads so they end up all over the place.

miles01110 · Jan 6, 2012, 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BreakGuy

The Mac Peripherals forum description makes no mention of networking or AirPort, thus people get confused as to where to post their threads so they end up all over the place.

BreakGuy · Jan 6, 2012, 04:07 AM

I can't figure out why you're so against change. You're really defensive about this whole distinguished networking forum.

miles01110 · Jan 6, 2012, 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BreakGuy

I can't figure out why you're so against change. You're really defensive about this whole distinguished networking forum.

You have 254 posts. I have over 15,700. This does not mean that my opinion means more than yours, but it does mean that you either a) haven't been around long enough to know why your idea is not a big improvement over the status quo, or b) won't be around long enough to care if it's implemented or not.

Edit: I do agree that putting something about the AEBS or Time Capsule in the Mac Peripherals forum description might help some people, though.

BreakGuy · Jan 6, 2012, 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miles01110

You have 254 posts. I have over 15,700. This does not mean that my opinion means more than yours, but it does mean that you either a) haven't been around long enough to know why your idea is not a big improvement over the status quo, or b) won't be around long enough to care if it's implemented or not.

So what if my post count is substantially lower than yours. Perhaps that's why you don't want a new forum or change at all for that matter. You've become too accustomed to how things are on the board.

And change doesn't benefit just myself, so even if I did decide to leave it will continue to benefit the entire MacRumors community.

Macman45 · Jan 6, 2012, 04:22 AM

Constructive debate +1 flaming each other? Why? It does not seem to me to be a question of post counts....Competition or anything else related to a specific members contribution here.

Like I said, just a housekeeping thing. Happy New Year.

Let peace resume!

GGJstudios · Jan 6, 2012, 04:29 AM

Post counts and join dates are completely irrelevant to the discussion.

Anyone can offer ideas for improving the forum. The idea will stand or fall based on its own merit, not on the post count or "tenure" of anyone for or against it.

SandboxGeneral · Jan 9, 2012, 08:21 PM

This would be a good thread to be classified in a separate AirPort/networking forum. It's kind of a broad thread covering the AEBS, XBox, HDTV and general networking questions.

Airport Extreme and UPnP, Xbox, Vizio TV, and other issues

balamw · Jan 9, 2012, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SandboxGeneral

This would be a good thread to be classified in a separate AirPort/networking forum.

So why do you think this particular thread doesn't fit in Mac Peripherals? The Airport Extreme at least is still a Mac Peripheral.

B

SandboxGeneral · Jan 9, 2012, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by balamw

So why do you think this particular thread doesn't fit in Mac Peripherals? The Airport Extreme at least is still a Mac Peripheral.

B

It fits the current forum, but I figure that since the user is having the issue with several products, that it could better fit a more generic forum. Especially since the error that is preventing him from using his non-Apple peripherals relates to UPnP, being a Microsoft protocol.

I thought this thread was a good example to use for the promotion of adding this potential new forum.

Dec 29, 2011, 06:47 PM	#1
BreakGuy macrumors 6502a Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NZ, South Pacific	Separate AirPort/Networking forum After a quick search of this forum, I found this has been suggested twice before, last almost four years ago... perhaps it's time for a revisit of the idea. I've noticed a lot of threads springing up surrounding AirPort, AirPlay and other networking devices, but no real definitive forum for these to go into. The only two forums that look to have anything to do with AirPort/Networking are the 'Mac Peripherals' and 'Mac OS X Server, Xserve, and Networking', neither of these I feel are sufficient for the large quantity of queries regarding the aforementioned matters. As AirPort, AirPlay (and networking) is a large part of the Apple universe, perhaps it's time for a separate forum exclusive for these issues. Your thoughts? __________________ MacBook Pro (early 2011) -- iPhone 5 (white 32GB) -- AirPort Extreme -- AirPort Express
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Dec 30, 2011, 10:08 AM	#4
SandboxGeneral Demi-God (Moderator) Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: The New World	I think this would be a good idea, but make it more generic and not use Apple or other company proprietary names within the title. Maybe call it a "Computer Networking" forum, which can encompass LAN's, WAN's, routers (wireless & hardwired), switches, firewalls (hardware & software), fiber mux's and general network security. All this stuff is relevant to OS X & iOS, yet is agnostic towards them and Windows, Linux etc... The protocols remain the same across platforms. We have Mac OS X Server, Xserve, and Networking but that title really limits the scope of what it's intention is for. I bet munkery would have plenty to contribute in this field and in this potential new forum. __________________ Twitter \| Website \| ♫ Free iTunes Music ♫ *Random Access Memories* ~ daft punk
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Dec 30, 2011, 10:14 AM	#5
balamw Demi-God (Moderator) Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: New England, USA	Maybe something like this could fly as a sub forum to Mac Basics and Help? B __________________ MBA (13" 1.7 GHz 128GB), UMBP (15" SD 2.8 GHz), UMB (13" 2.4 GHz), iMac (17" Yonah), 32GB iPad 3 WiFi+LTE, 64 GB iPad WiFi, 32 GB iPhone 5, Airport Extreme
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Dec 30, 2011, 10:27 AM	#6
Consultant macrumors G5 Join Date: Jun 2007	Yeah most network help threads I've seen are under the 'Mac OS X Server, Xserve, and Networking' section. But I am guessing more people buy airport products than OS X server __________________ * Is redesign innovation? The false burdens of Apple iOS * \| Apple User Art \| Celebs with Macs \| Mac: Power Users \| Tech Humor
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Jan 4, 2012, 06:48 PM	#7
BreakGuy Thread Starter macrumors 6502a Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NZ, South Pacific	Would have thought there'd have been a bit more discussion on this issue by now.. __________________ MacBook Pro (early 2011) -- iPhone 5 (white 32GB) -- AirPort Extreme -- AirPort Express
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Dec 29, 2011, 07:06 PM	#2
GGJstudios macrumors Westmere Join Date: May 2008	I don't see how this can be separated to another forum, since many of the networking issues also involve settings on a particular Mac model, as well. Between Apple and non-Apple routers, various Mac models, printers, Time Capsules, iPods, iPhones, iPads, etc., network topics spill over to many areas. I just don't see how all that can be confined to one forum.
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Jan 5, 2012, 02:07 AM	#9
miles01110 macrumors 604 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Ivory Tower (I'm not coming down)	I don't think there are enough threads to merit a separate networking forum. Then again, we still have "Dsitributed Computing" ... __________________ Got a problem? Check here first.
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Jan 6, 2012, 03:00 AM	#12
Macman45 macrumors G4 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Somewhere Back In The Long Ago	It's really a question of specifics I suppose... But it does seem to make sense to have all router/ wifi / Ethernet / network connectivity issues in one place. __________________ Time And Tide Wait For No Man
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Jan 6, 2012, 03:37 AM	#14
miles01110 macrumors 604 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Ivory Tower (I'm not coming down)	Those could all go into Mac Peripherals. __________________ Got a problem? Check here first.
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Jan 6, 2012, 03:41 AM	#15
Macman45 macrumors G4 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Somewhere Back In The Long Ago	I don't think getting bogged down in argument is all that productive. It's sort of a general housekeeping issue. A separate place for all things Network. __________________ Time And Tide Wait For No Man
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Jan 6, 2012, 04:07 AM	#18
BreakGuy Thread Starter macrumors 6502a Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NZ, South Pacific	I can't figure out why you're so against change. You're really defensive about this whole distinguished networking forum. __________________ MacBook Pro (early 2011) -- iPhone 5 (white 32GB) -- AirPort Extreme -- AirPort Express
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Jan 6, 2012, 04:22 AM	#21
Macman45 macrumors G4 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Somewhere Back In The Long Ago	Constructive debate +1 flaming each other? Why? It does not seem to me to be a question of post counts....Competition or anything else related to a specific members contribution here. Like I said, just a housekeeping thing. Happy New Year. Let peace resume! __________________ Time And Tide Wait For No Man
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Jan 6, 2012, 04:29 AM	#22
GGJstudios macrumors Westmere Join Date: May 2008	Post counts and join dates are completely irrelevant to the discussion. Anyone can offer ideas for improving the forum. The idea will stand or fall based on its own merit, not on the post count or "tenure" of anyone for or against it.
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Jan 9, 2012, 08:21 PM	#23
SandboxGeneral Demi-God (Moderator) Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: The New World	This would be a good thread to be classified in a separate AirPort/networking forum. It's kind of a broad thread covering the AEBS, XBox, HDTV and general networking questions. Airport Extreme and UPnP, Xbox, Vizio TV, and other issues __________________ Twitter \| Website \| ♫ Free iTunes Music ♫ *Random Access Memories* ~ daft punk
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