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Old Jan 1, 2012, 12:44 PM   #51
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I want to see iApps hacked to run on MACINTOSHES !!
Why ? What app do you need that's only available on iOS and doesn't have a much more full featured OS X equivalent ?
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Old Jan 1, 2012, 12:45 PM   #52
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this is quite obviously a fake, a slide show on a pc that comes out of standby when the keyboard is pressed. You can see that the monitor changes its resolution when the pc running the slide show comes out of standby and the monitor jumps over to the correct input (from HDMI->DVI/PC)
Am surprised this made front page news when other fakes have been made more believable than this.
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Old Jan 1, 2012, 12:55 PM   #53
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Old Jan 1, 2012, 01:02 PM   #54
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this is quite obviously a fake, a slide show on a pc that comes out of standby when the keyboard is pressed. You can see that the monitor changes its resolution when the pc running the slide show comes out of standby and the monitor jumps over to the correct input (from HDMI->DVI/PC)
Am surprised this made front page news when other fakes have been made more believable than this.
I'm gonna have to disagree with you here.
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Old Jan 1, 2012, 01:31 PM   #55
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Big whoop. (sarcasm)
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Old Jan 1, 2012, 02:08 PM   #56
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yep.. it looks proisimg. :apple

And, by the way, this wiukd also fall in line with the "much rumoured" HD TV

If this this only a start, only Apple may have delibratly locked the ATV 2 from full IOS apps at their discretion or IOS apps, then i can't wait to see when Apple does release the next device.
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Old Jan 1, 2012, 02:13 PM   #57
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With Airplay we already have the game console you are talking about.

Great example of the potential that MR posted about 3 months ago.
The airplay solution only works if the network connection has very low latency. Otherwise the video lags too much to be playable.
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Old Jan 1, 2012, 02:23 PM   #58
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Google TV and WebTV have done this. And failed.

Kudos to Stephen and TheMudKip. But this is exactly what Apple wants to avoid: general iOS apps running on your living room TV. Google TV did it and failed. WebTV before them ran a few specific apps on your living room TV and failed. If Apple does it all over again, they too will fail.

And the reason for all that app-on-TV failure? It's because big-screen TV viewing is a communal event and small-screen personal computing is a private activity. Those two concepts can't be combined to deliver a great experience. And Apple needs to deliver a great experience to make a dent in the TV market.

Do you really want Mom to check her email on 3rd and goal during the Superbowl? Nope. Do you want Dad to check ink cartridge prices on Amazon at a dramatic moment in "Kung Fu Panda 8"? Negative. Do you want to let the kid tweet about his dessert in the middle of the State of the Union address? Not so much.

So for now, running apps is a personal, private activity. And for now, big-screen TV viewing is a communal, shared activity. You can't mix the two without major problems with the overall experience. The one exception is video games, but despite the money to be had in video games, it's small potatoes compared to the overall TV market. (And, speaking of big money, I think Apple designed iAd for big-screen HDTV from day one, but that's another story...)
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Old Jan 1, 2012, 02:23 PM   #59
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This has interesting possibilities. Hope this progresses further!
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Old Jan 1, 2012, 02:36 PM   #60
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this is quite obviously a fake, a slide show on a pc that comes out of standby when the keyboard is pressed. You can see that the monitor changes its resolution when the pc running the slide show comes out of standby and the monitor jumps over to the correct input (from HDMI->DVI/PC)
Am surprised this made front page news when other fakes have been made more believable than this.
It's not fake. I know the dev.

Same dev was also responsible for Siri on iPhone 4 hack.

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Old Jan 1, 2012, 02:38 PM   #61
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this is quite obviously a fake, a slide show on a pc that comes out of standby when the keyboard is pressed. You can see that the monitor changes its resolution when the pc running the slide show comes out of standby and the monitor jumps over to the correct input (from HDMI->DVI/PC)
Am surprised this made front page news when other fakes have been made more believable than this.
While I wouldn't say "obviously" fake, there are some things about the video that seem strange. Why the very deliberate Enter key hits (not saying he is, but that's the kind of thing you'd do if you were trying to synchronize with a video)? At one point he even types something with no visible effect, then pauses strangely, almost like he missed a cue. Why not show the VNC interface he's claiming to be using? He angled the camera to show his hand on the touchpad, seems logical to show the input interface as well. He claims to have put together the quick launcher, and apparently wired up the slide out menu to the remote (as that's the only time he uses it), then why not wire the launcher up to the remote? If it's a custom launcher, then there's no touchscreen dependency.

It's intriguing, but I'm not convinced that it's 100% real...
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Old Jan 1, 2012, 02:39 PM   #62
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I would feel MORE than comfortable using these features on an TV connected to my bog-standard TV set - rather than have to go out and buy an expensive Apple-branded TV set to experience it exclusively!
Source on it being expensive? Or is that more "analyst speculation from an anonymous reliable source with ties to a Chinese part maker" that led us to stories of the $1300 iPad and 5-inch iPhone 5?
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Old Jan 1, 2012, 02:39 PM   #63
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It's not fake. I know the dev.

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But the evidence is there in front of you, explain the monitor re-adjusting the resolution as soon as keyboard is pressed. its obviously a pc returning from sleep
its not like developers/powerpointcreators to lie :-) is it!!!
its too much like a video/slideshow playing and the user/person playing along intime with the video
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Old Jan 1, 2012, 02:42 PM   #64
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But the evidence is there in front of you, explain the monitor re-adjusting the resolution as soon as keyboard is pressed. its obviously a pc returning from sleep
its not like developers/powerpointcreators to lie :-) is it!!!
its too much like a video/slideshow playing and the user/person playing along intime with the video
...you're disagreeing with a mod, who knows the dev. Fail.
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Care to explain how exactly the controller for the AppleTCV is specified?

Nope - remote doesn't count. Go for two analog sticks, one D-Pad, 4 shoulder buttons and 4 hardware buttons, then we're talking.

Actually - did you ever touch one of these controllers? (arguing from the POV that I still don't feel comfortable on the PS3 controller because I am so used to my 360 controller).
Apple's had game controllers before...

Yes, I have "touched game controllers" - longer than probably you've been alive...
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Old Jan 1, 2012, 03:04 PM   #66
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AppleTV - a trojan horse. Apple's game console, controlled with your portable iOS device.
Not unless they add an optical device and/or lots of local storage.
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Old Jan 1, 2012, 03:11 PM   #67
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...you're disagreeing with a mod, who knows the dev. Fail.
and yet, despite me putting across solid observations, nobody has any opinions to disprove my comments.
if this dev was responsible for siri on iPhone 4, then what better way to hold his place in the spotlight than to create a fake hack based on a big topic at the moment... the apple tv set.
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Old Jan 1, 2012, 03:16 PM   #68
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The point that some people are missing: you can connect the TV to a computer monitor with an HDMI input. It doesn't have to be a living room computer.

Bluetooth mouse and keyboard + low-cost HDMI monitor + TV = iOS Apple computer for around 200 to 250$.

All they need to do is enable bluetooth keyboard and mouse, microUSB for storage to an external hard drive*.

* not everyone can use the cloud for everything. Internet connection speed limits and extremely low monthly caps make the cloud a non-starter option for a lot of people around the world.

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Source on it being expensive? Or is that more "analyst speculation from an anonymous reliable source with ties to a Chinese part maker" that led us to stories of the $1300 iPad and 5-inch iPhone 5?
Apple can't come up with ANY TV set for 99$USD, which is the price of the small TV box itself.
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Old Jan 1, 2012, 03:19 PM   #69
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This is wild! I would love to try this out!
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Old Jan 1, 2012, 03:20 PM   #70
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Bring on a Hulu+ app, as well as other various and sundry streaming services the mothership won't allow on their device. That and a Flash-enabled version of Safari that will allow streaming from within.
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...you're disagreeing with a mod, who knows the dev. Fail.
He's actually disagreeing with the founder and owner of MR. Which is often entertaining to watch, when people do that...
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Old Jan 1, 2012, 03:38 PM   #72
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Old Jan 1, 2012, 03:41 PM   #73
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it seems to me like apple created a 100$ "computer" that could handle many many average user's needs. they may have realized the effect of this on sales of other products and decided to delay releasing that functionality. having IOS apps run on an appleTV2 with a wireless keyboard would IMHO be a revolutionary change in the PC market.
It's plausible. Once the other iOS devices sales have plateaued, an Apple TV with these functions could be released.
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Old Jan 1, 2012, 03:46 PM   #74
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I really would like to have Hulu on my Apple TV. That in combination with some other streaming apps would make the little black box a real product and not a hobby anymore.
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Old Jan 1, 2012, 04:06 PM   #75
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I could see a lot of business execs at Apple and other companies being very afraid of this. It could change the whole market. I already *know people who* (edit) use their ipad and iphone as a primary computer. Email, facebook, internet browsing, a few things to type and thats it. An ipad and iphone limits them due to storage space and lack of keyboard; an imac is too expensive.

Make iOS into a simple computing OS that runs on phones, ipads, and appleTV; keep OSX as the full operating system and make MBP, imac etc sync with iOS.

Thats a one-two punch that covers the low end and the high end of the market, as well as mobile and professional (or what Apple has left of professional).

It would cut into full computer sales...but imagine if everyone who wanted one could have their iphone/pad, and an appletv/keyboard as their home PC setup that covers 90% of their needs...cheap, mobile, synced, wireless, and virus free. And everyone who needed more power could add a mac in there.
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