Go Back   MacRumors Forums > Special Interests > Visual Media > Digital Video

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old Aug 5, 2014, 04:44 PM   #1
kumquat
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Salvaging an old Avid Xpress DV Project

Hi,

I have an old project, a feature length film shot in '03, which was cut in Avid DV Xpress on a PPC G5. The G5 is still running, running Tiger and works, but is extremely slow and there is clearly something wrong with the graphics card.

There were several disasters associated with this project including two huge LaCie drive failures which destroyed months and months of work. I have what remains of the .omf and .aiff project files that were able to be salvaged from the drive failures as well as a couple of extremely compressed .m2v mixdowns of the project and a good chunk of the corrected audio files. I, also, have access to the original DV tapes, assuming they haven't degraded to a non-usable state.

What I would like to do is create a better copy of the full project. Final Cut won't let me import the raw project files I do have, there is no complete This Is An Avid Project folder with files left after the drive melts and my memory is that .m2v was the best option for exportation from that version of Avid anyway. I have been able to look at some of the raw project files using Handbrake, of all things, and it seems to me that I do have at least most of the files comprising the rough edit, pre-mixdown and credits.

Do I have any options for making a few tweaks to this thing from the existing pre-mixdown files and exporting a better quality mixdown from my Mt. Lion Mac Mini Server? Is there any software (aside from Avid and Handbrake) which can work with these .OMF files? Is my best bet to try to get Avid Xpress DV up and running again despite the G5's issues? What about running it in a virtual machine on the Mini? Is there any way to just reencode the existing .m2v mixdowns so they look better? What would you do?

Thanks
kumquat is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Aug 6, 2014, 09:41 AM   #2
nep61
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: May 2007
Wow, that's a bummer.
The .omf files will most likely only work in AVID. Using handbreak, or any other application which converts the media will make it unable to be recognized by AVID without re-editing it into the project. You've already done the heavy lifting, you don't need to re-do all that work.

You can download a 30 day trial of AVID on a Newer computer and copy the the old project to the new machine. It should update the project from XPress Pro to AVID MC 8.0...
Then, you can batch import files which you've salvaged, and also batch digitize the DV tapes. The media should populate the sequence as it existed previously.... (10 year old DV tapes should still be good, provided they were stored properly.)

That's what I'd try first... it's simple and cheap. Playing with the files on the old computer and trying to get the AVID XPress Pro to work might in some way, corrupt the .bin files or the project file.

Hopefully some of this helps. Good luck!
nep61 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Aug 6, 2014, 12:01 PM   #3
ChrisA
macrumors G4
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Redondo Beach, California
Quote:
Originally Posted by nep61 View Post
...
You can download a 30 day trial of AVID on a Newer computer and copy the the old project to the new machine. It should update the project from XPress Pro to AVID MC 8.0......

Yes. The above is the way to go. But. make a backup of EVERYTHING on the old computer. Make two copies and put one of them in some far away place on some other building. Make at least two backup copies before you start this project.

You said your project was damaged by drive failures. That should NEVER happen. Your project should be able to survive a house fire or theft of al the equipment. Even AFTER the fire there should still be two copies of your work.
ChrisA is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Aug 6, 2014, 01:10 PM   #4
kumquat
Thread Starter
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisA View Post
You said your project was damaged by drive failures. That should NEVER happen. Your project should be able to survive a house fire or theft of al the equipment. Even AFTER the fire there should still be two copies of your work.
Oh, tell me about it! It was absolute madness. The guys at TekServe told me the drives had actually internally melted. Literally melted. The place I was using to edit had been recently rehabbed and rewired and I saw no evidence of electrical weirdness in any other instance so I can only assume the drives were just junk. I've refused to come anywhere near a LaCie drive since and get twinges of PTSD whenever I see an ad for them.
kumquat is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Aug 6, 2014, 01:23 PM   #5
kumquat
Thread Starter
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by nep61 View Post
Wow, that's a bummer.
The .omf files will most likely only work in AVID. Using handbreak, or any other application which converts the media will make it unable to be recognized by AVID without re-editing it into the project. You've already done the heavy lifting, you don't need to re-do all that work.

You can download a 30 day trial of AVID on a Newer computer and copy the the old project to the new machine. It should update the project from XPress Pro to AVID MC 8.0...
Then, you can batch import files which you've salvaged, and also batch digitize the DV tapes. The media should populate the sequence as it existed previously.... (10 year old DV tapes should still be good, provided they were stored properly.)

That's what I'd try first... it's simple and cheap. Playing with the files on the old computer and trying to get the AVID XPress Pro to work might in some way, corrupt the .bin files or the project file.

Hopefully some of this helps. Good luck!

Thank you. I'll give it a go.

Yeah, I can't even fathom going back in and recutting the whole thing (for a third time); we wound up with about 110 hours of raw footage.

But so much work went into this thing that it seems insane that I don't even have my own copy of the thing on disc. I gave away the ones I made.

And there are definitely spots that could use some color correction and a little audio sweetening. By the time I finally finished it, after the melts and a bunch of life altering personal **** that happened nearly simultaneously, I was just so over it and ready to move on to anything else that it didn't get the polish it deserved.
kumquat is offline   0 Reply With Quote

Reply
MacRumors Forums > Special Interests > Visual Media > Digital Video

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Similar Threads
thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Salvaging an old iMac Fizzunk Mac Basics and Help 43 Apr 30, 2014 03:59 AM
Salvaging data on dead MBA Munch MacBook Air 5 Mar 27, 2014 10:39 PM
after sharing project to itunes, what do you do with the project halfmonkey Digital Video 4 Jan 5, 2014 12:37 PM
Will my iMac run Avid DS? sergiobaschi iMac 1 Jan 5, 2013 07:34 PM
LMS TEST XPRESS V7A-MAGNiTUDE hoot09 OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion 0 Aug 21, 2012 07:57 AM

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:38 AM.

Mac Rumors | Mac | iPhone | iPhone Game Reviews | iPhone Apps

Mobile Version | Fixed | Fluid | Fluid HD
Copyright 2002-2013, MacRumors.com, LLC