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Old Jan 24, 2012, 07:24 PM   #1
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Wrap around graphics, photoshop or illustrator.

I've got a flat label and I need to make a mock up as if wrapped around a can or bottle.

I'm sure I used to know how to do this!!!

Any advice?

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Old Jan 24, 2012, 07:37 PM   #2
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Are we talking a standard label format here or are you trying to create a "seamless" one?
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Old Jan 24, 2012, 07:50 PM   #3
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Sorry, it's a label that would wrap all the way around a bottle or can. It's for a visual, and I need only show the front, so the edges of the label don't need to meet evenly at the back.

Lets say its a 85mm x 220mm high label wrapping around a 500 ml bottle. you're only going to see maybe 60mm by 85mm from the front, but it's needs to be properly curved.

I mean the old school way would be to print out the label, wrap it round a bottle & take a photo & draw from that, but I was sure there's a digital way.......
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Just set up the file to match the medium, design then print. However if you want it to be seamless you'll need to do it a little differently.
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Old Jan 24, 2012, 10:11 PM   #5
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Just set up the file to match the medium, design then print. However if you want it to be seamless you'll need to do it a little differently.
Sorry, I didn't understand that at all. I have an image file for a label, a long narrow one that you would get wrapped around a soda bottle. This is a flat image.

I then have a photograph of the bottle it needs to fit around, obviously the photo has shape to it.

I just need to know how to drop the label image onto a layer on top of the bottle image & manipulate a section of it to look like it's wrapped around the bottle. It doesn't have to actually fit, just to look like the bottle is branded with the label I have.

The label is already designed. I just need to make it look like it's wrapped around a bottle.
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Old Jan 25, 2012, 01:09 AM   #7
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In either Photoshop CS1 or CS2 you used to have a 3D primitive you could wrap images around, but I don't think that is any longer the case.

Now I think its been replaced by the likes of the warp tool, vanishing point, and new 3D tools.

I don't know much about the new Photoshop 3D tools as I have no use for them but they may be what will help you do this.
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Old Jan 25, 2012, 01:56 AM   #8
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Thanks for that. It does what I need to a degree, but i think I needed the old 3D wraparound tool mentioned, as my bottle image isn't head on....

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Ok, here's a thought. Anyone out there use Sketchup? It's the only 3D software I have access to, but I have no idea how to use it.

Would it be possible to create a cylinder, wrap a section of my label around it (essentially like the tutorial above) then tilt the cylinder to get my perspective?

If I could then export that section of manipulated label as a flat image I could drop it onto my bottle in photoshop?
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Thanks for that. It does what I need to a degree, but i think I needed the old 3D wraparound tool mentioned, as my bottle image isn't head on....

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Ok, here's a thought. Anyone out there use Sketchup? It's the only 3D software I have access to, but I have no idea how to use it.

Would it be possible to create a cylinder, wrap a section of my label around it (essentially like the tutorial above) then tilt the cylinder to get my perspective?

If I could then export that section of manipulated label as a flat image I could drop it onto my bottle in photoshop?
I haven't used Sketchup so I can't vouch for it, but generally in 3D its a bit more complex than that. You have to worry about UV layouts so that your texture is not stretched or warped.

Hopefully Sketchup has some sort of tool that automates that.
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Old Jan 25, 2012, 09:42 AM   #10
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What about using Illustrator to do the 3D part of the label.

Open up Illustrator and draw a circle of the diameter of the soda can
Drop your flat label in illustrator, and turn it into a symbol.
Select the circle and then go the the « menu » Effect -> 3D -> Extrude and Bevel
That would make a virtual cylinder (representing your soda bottle) Play with the setting to make the 3D shows as you wish (match the picture you have) (you can check the preview case to see the result)
Than click on « Map Art... »
First, select the right surface (make sure to select the right one at the exterior), than chose you label from the Symbol drop down menu.
Place it as you wish, you can also check Shade artwork to get a more realistic result. Click Ok and see the result.

You may need to adjust the output DPI in the menu Effect « Adjust Raster Effects setting »

Then drop the image in photoshop on top of you picture, mask everything except the label, align and voilà !
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What about using Illustrator to do the 3D part of the label.

Open up Illustrator and draw a circle of the diameter of the soda can
Drop your flat label in illustrator, and turn it into a symbol.
Select the circle and then go the the « menu » Effect -> 3D -> Extrude and Bevel
That would make a virtual cylinder (representing your soda bottle) Play with the setting to make the 3D shows as you wish (match the picture you have) (you can check the preview case to see the result)
Than click on « Map Art... »
First, select the right surface (make sure to select the right one at the exterior), than chose you label from the Symbol drop down menu.
Place it as you wish, you can also check Shade artwork to get a more realistic result. Click Ok and see the result.

You may need to adjust the output DPI in the menu Effect « Adjust Raster Effects setting »

Then drop the image in photoshop on top of you picture, mask everything except the label, align and voilà !
FINALLY! There we go. I knew there was something like this. Even used it once or twice for basic 3D shapes but couldn't remember how.

Two last things, how do I make my label a symbol, and where is 'map art'

Cheers.

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Old Jan 25, 2012, 02:26 PM   #12
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FINALLY! There we go. I knew there was something like this. Even used it once or twice for basic 3D shapes but couldn't remember how.

Two last things, how do I make my label a symbol, and where is 'map art'

Cheers.

Thanks a million!![COLOR="#808080"]
Drag your label onto the "Symbols" palette.

"Map Art" is a button to the right side of the "3D Extrude & Bevel Options" Window.
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Drag your label onto the "Symbols" palette.

"Map Art" is a button to the right side of the "3D Extrude & Bevel Options" Window.
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No problem! Glad I could help fill in the gaps.
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