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Old Jun 9, 2005, 09:20 PM   #1
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Pentium M and Yonah Processors in Upcoming Macs?

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With Apple's upcoming move to Intel-based processors in 2006, rumors and news about upcoming Intel processors will creep into Mac sites.

MacCentral kicks it off by citing informed source who claim that Apple will utilize Intel's Pentium M processor for Macintosh computers starting in 2006.

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The Pentium M uses the same x86 architecture as the Pentium 4, but consumes far less power than Pentium 4 chips and its design philosophy is expected to be the model for Intel’s future processors.
The high performance per watt ratio of the upcoming Pentium M falls in line with the features Steve Jobs cited as reasons for the switch from IBM's PowerPC processor.

eWeek provides some additional details and speculation about Intel processors.

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The [Pentium M], which currently tops out at 2.13 GHz, typically performs as well or better than all but the fastest Pentium 4 chips, which clock in at 3.6GHz and 3.8GHz, even for applications such as computer-aided design, Intel and analysts say, while consuming roughly a quarter of the amount of power those chips use.
Of note, a higher performance Pentium M (Yonah), is reported to arrive later this year. The Yonah is reported to be a dual-core version of the Pentium M using a 65-nanometer process.

More details of the Yonah chip can be found in this article. Yonah will reportedly be the first mobile dual-core processor as well as the first processor manufactured in the 65-nm process.

For what it's worth, Digitimes is also claiming that Yonah will be used by Apple.

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Old Jun 9, 2005, 09:24 PM   #2
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I assumed that these would be the first two chips used, especially the Pentium M. My question is how quickly will they be out in Power Books? I'm hoping for MWSF 06 although it may seem a little early.

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There seems to be consensus that the Pentium Ms are going in the iBook, PowerBook and Mini starting from early 2006, while iMacs and PowerMacs and later Xserves will have to wait for a 64-bits variant coming in 2007...

What I'm a bit confused about is where Pentium D, with the built-in DRM capabilities fit in...
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Old Jun 9, 2005, 09:24 PM   #4
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Im sure am looking forward to the future of mac. Those dual cores look intresting. I cant wait to see how well these intel processors will perform on os x.

Thanks arn for keeping us informed over the last week, much appreciated
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Old Jun 9, 2005, 09:25 PM   #5
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Wow cool sounds good. Dose that mean better battery life.
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Now can everyone shutup about P4's shipping. I was pretty sure that Apple was going to utilize the Yonah chip and the M for mobile processing.

Anyone else think that the iBook and Powerbook line will be the first to receive the new chips. We need some sort of betting odds on which will be first on what models.
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Old Jun 9, 2005, 09:27 PM   #7
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Here we go, 50 pages of misguided ***** of how -
- intel sucks
- intel means viruses
- people don't want macs to get over 5% market share.
- macs will be Dell quality machines
- Apple should have gone with IBM's (!!!???)
- apple making osx available on all PCs
- the final demise of Macs

plus other crap that people invent.

Very little insight and factual posts ( judging from the other posts )

Sorry, I'm being pessimistic.
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yay... just about the time i'll want to get a new ibook.... or maybe this time the power/price will push me to the powerbook.
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Man, I'm still not used to seeing the word 'Pentium' and "Mac" in the same sentence, unless its to show how Macs blow Pentiums away.

I remember having the RISC vs. CISC conversation with many PC'ers back in 1994.

Odd how things change!
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I'll say this...Yonah's ability to turn off a core, and allow the running one to have access to the full 2MB cache, when in battery mode is AWESOME!
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Sorry, I'm being pessimistic.
Sounded more like you were being REALISTIC!!
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yay... just about the time i'll want to get a new ibook.... or maybe this time the power/price will push me to the powerbook.
You do realize that the first shipments of mactels will be june next year.
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Sounded more like you were being REALISTIC!!
LOL, I'm really looking forward to what decent processors are going to be used in apple's laptops.

What ever they are - they will smoke today's current line up.
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You do realize that the first shipments of mactels will be june next year.
Is there any chance we can refer to the new Macs as Macs instead of Mactels or Macintels. It makes them sound cheap and sarcastic like the Wintel label. My Macs will always be Macs regardless of the chip inside.
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all these recent rumors could be lumped into one big ol' rumor... hrm...
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Old Jun 9, 2005, 09:35 PM   #16
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LOL, I'm really looking forward to what decent processors are going to be used in apple's laptops.

What ever they are - they will smoke today's current line up.
I believe that whatever Steve and company come up with, it is going to be all Mac ... creative, fast, designed well, useful, and cutting edge. They have rarely disappointed me (unless you count that old Powerbook 5300ce ... what a piece of ... um ... creative uselessness).
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Although it's early, this is promising news - this will hopefully put a lot of people at ease who automatically thought that the Macs would be seeing P4s in them. I'd definitely be happy with an M or Yonah chip in a future Mac.
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They don't support 64bit

If they don't support 64 bit then will they actually go in a Powerbook? It would seem to me that Apple would want 64 bit support for the Powerbook line, but Intel says they aren't going to support it until it's needed. I think it's needed now, don't you?

Powerbook sales are going to drop like a stone until the Intel chips are ready.
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Old Jun 9, 2005, 09:38 PM   #19
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Look on the bright side

Now we have Intel Powerbook rumors to look forward too.
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Powerbook sales are going to drop like a stone until the Intel chips are ready.
Then maybe your can get one after the prices drop like stone too ... But I bet you'll be waitin' a looooonnnng time.
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I believe that whatever Steve and company come up with, it is going to be all Mac ... creative, fast, designed well, useful, and cutting edge. They have rarely disappointed me (unless you count that old Powerbook 5300ce ... what a piece of ... um ... creative uselessness).
They certainly will , apple will have little excuse.

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There seems to be consensus that the Pentium Ms are going in the iBook, PowerBook and Mini starting from early 2006, while iMacs and PowerMacs and later Xserves will have to wait for a 64-bits variant coming in 2007...

What I'm a bit confused about is where Pentium D, with the built-in DRM capabilities fit in...
It doesnt fit in anywhere. The pentium D consumes around 200 Watts
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The 2.8 being the slowest of the pentium D available

Not exactly iin sync with steve's goal of low consumption high efficiency.
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Man, I'm still not used to seeing the word 'Pentium' and "Mac" in the same sentence, unless its to show how Macs blow Pentiums away.

I remember having the RISC vs. CISC conversation with many PC'ers back in 1994.

Odd how things change!

It was odd to me when Apple went with IBM chips, with the 1984 commercial and all. And Steve feelings about big brother at that time.

It's just the nature of the beast.
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I think the Ibooks will get a minor speed bump soon, then at mwsf 06 we will get powerbooks with the M chip, I think it will happen similar to this becuse I doubt Apple would give the new chip to the Ibook first, but I could be wrong, just my 2 cents.

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Thumbs down The Pentium M is as old as dirt and based on Intel's Pentium III

It would be great marketing to fanboys but...

It is based not on Intel's P4 but the CISC junkpile called PIII.

Pentium M for dummies

I've run the Pentium M. It's slow, UNRELIABLE, and a piece of junk.
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