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Old Jan 26, 2012, 01:05 PM   #1
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Is it safe to buy a Refurbished iMac?

I have OCD, and love getting as close to perfection as I can get. I saw my friends refurbished iMac and it looked in perfect condition with no dead pixels or screen tinting or anything. Some people tell me that I will get one with dents and scratches and one that isn't good quality. The price savings seem worth it. I bought a new iPad 2 and had dead pixels and backlight bleeding and a friend got a perfect refurb one and 80 dollars back. I'm confused.
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Old Jan 26, 2012, 02:26 PM   #3
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Well, i just bought a refurbished iMac a few days ago. And i have to say it is in perfect condition. The computer even smelled new.
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Old Jan 26, 2012, 02:45 PM   #4
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Got mine little over a week and was perfect, I looked REALLY close with my surefire
I would/will buy refurb again for sure, only way to tell was refurb was the white box it came it but looks like it was never used!
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Old Jan 26, 2012, 04:02 PM   #5
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Apple Certified Refurbished Products are only available from the online Apple Refurb Store. They are a good value, as hundreds have reported. Read the first link above to see details about the refurbishing process.

If you want more information, here are just a few of many threads on this topic, found by searching the forum:

Buying advice please, new vs refurb iMac
New vs. Refurbished iMac
Would you buy a refurbished Mac from Apple
Refurbished MBP or New?
Refurbished vs New: your experiences, thoughts?
Macbook Pro Refurbished questions
has anyone ever had a bad refurbished MBP?
Refurbished MacBook pro
Open box or Refurbished MBP?
Refurbished buy...Good idea or not?
leaning towards imac, or a macbook, and should i buy new or refurbished
Refurbished MacBook Pro?
Considering refurbished MBP however...
macbook refurbished?
Refurbished???
Has anyone had any bad experiences with getting a Macbook Pro Refurbished from Apple?
Off topic but...

I've watched you post these subtle "search first" missives for some time and wonder if you could show what search criteria/method you use(d) (when you make the suggestion) to find those results and were they organized so well when the results came in? Seems most of my searches result in a million listings many of which are quite stale. I believe that sort of result causes most folks to post the same questions over and over (or perhaps they're just lazy).

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Old Jan 26, 2012, 04:21 PM   #6
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I've watched you post these subtle "search first" missives
That's not a "search first" missive. As I said, if the OP wants additional information, that's where and how to find it.
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wonder if you could show what search criteria/method you use(d) (when you make the suggestion) to find those results and were they organized so well when the results came in?
If you're looking for suggestions on how to search, I'd be happy to respond to such a query in a separate thread, as it is off-topic for this thread.
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I've watched you post these subtle "search first" missives for some time and wonder if you could show what search criteria/method you use(d) (when you make the suggestion) to find those results and were they organized so well when the results came in?
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Old Jan 26, 2012, 10:51 PM   #8
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Personal experience suggests you cannot go wrong with punching a refurbished iMac from Apple, I'd caution to wait until new 2012 model is released though as highly probable you'd actually get a 'new' as opposed to 'used' model - be it 21.5 or 27in form factor.

On the plus side, and as many have noted on these boards, you may have upgraded iMac via refurbished route, i.e., bigger HDD/ more RAM, upgraded RAM GPU Ram memory in 27in model.

On the negative side, you get a lemon, specifically one with LCD issues, which means testing properly yourself and swapping if any issues are apparent.

Further, on refurbished models you have same 12 month Apple Warranty and ability to add AppleCare. Indeed, by not purchasing new and adding AppleCare, whilst paying only a fraction less than new, you do then have a full three year warranty with the added bonus of knowing should you sell on again, you'll get a greater return for a used Apple with APP than without, and say within a two year timeframe, with funds from selling your used Apple, you can then re-invest in another refurbished one.

Look at it in cost of ownership terms by dividing actual cost with number years you intend to keep the Apple - the refurbished route offers good value for money, particularly given this years update will not offer a significant boost in speed terms - maybe in GPU terms - iMacs have never been brilliant games machines, but as part of a media centre set-up/ pure computational uses, they really are good value and aesthetically look nice too - best all-in-one on the market in my opinion.
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Old Jan 27, 2012, 06:09 AM   #9
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All my Apple products (except iPhones and iPads) have been refurbs....no issues whatsoever.
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I have OCD, and love getting as close to perfection as I can get. I saw my friends refurbished iMac and it looked in perfect condition with no dead pixels or screen tinting or anything. Some people tell me that I will get one with dents and scratches and one that isn't good quality. The price savings seem worth it. I bought a new iPad 2 and had dead pixels and backlight bleeding and a friend got a perfect refurb one and 80 dollars back. I'm confused.
YES! They're basically brand new machines. I bought a 2010 refurbished MB and you couldn't even tell that it was a refurb. The only thing that gives it away is the box it comes in.
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Old Jan 27, 2012, 06:51 AM   #11
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I have a refurbished iMac, iPad and iPod. Never had a problem with any of them.
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Old Jan 27, 2012, 07:32 AM   #12
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One tiny caveat -

Unlike a new Mac, you can't choose your keyboard or tracking device. They all come with a wireless keyboard and Magic Mouse. I prefer the wired keyboard (because I want a number pad) and want to get the Magic Trackpad. Considering it would be $120 or so to get these elsewhere, it somewhat kills the deal when I could have them swapped in with a new iMac. Otherwise, I think they are a fabulous deal.
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Old Jan 27, 2012, 09:56 AM   #13
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Well, seeing as my iMac that I've had for a week is (apparently) likely to go straight into the refurb stock for re-sale, I would say that there is an inherent risk in buying a refurb model.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1313526

Whether mine has a faulty component or whether it's a generic design fault, nobody has been able to identify (including Applecare).
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Old Jan 27, 2012, 10:27 AM   #14
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Two refurbished MacBooks, refurbished Mac mini, refurbished Mac mini server, and a refurbished Airport Extreme here. All were perfect out of the box.

I only buy new if I need a build-to-order option or if I am in a hurry (sometimes it takes a while for the refurb model I want to show up, and I'm just a 5 minute walk from an Apple Store.)
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Old Jan 27, 2012, 10:39 AM   #15
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I have had great luck with ref rubs from apple.

Wether it be an airport extreme or a replaced iPod or iPhone
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Old Jan 27, 2012, 11:20 AM   #16
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I've had great success with refurbs. You really will get a great machine. And if your not satisfied (find a dent, or dead pixels), send it back within your return window.
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Old Jan 28, 2012, 08:26 AM   #17
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One tiny caveat -

Unlike a new Mac, you can't choose your keyboard or tracking device. They all come with a wireless keyboard and Magic Mouse. I prefer the wired keyboard (because I want a number pad) and want to get the Magic Trackpad. Considering it would be $120 or so to get these elsewhere, it somewhat kills the deal when I could have them swapped in with a new iMac. Otherwise, I think they are a fabulous deal.
Of course you could flip both of the items you didn't want on Craigslist or eBay and recoup $100. Plus, the savings on refurb Macs over new is quite often more than $200.
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Old Jan 28, 2012, 08:31 AM   #18
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Apple products I've own(ed) that were/are refurbished;

2006 17" MBP lasted 4 years till I sold
2010 27" iMac
2010 Unibody Macbook
iPad 1st gen
iPhone 3gs
iPod Touch 3rd gen
Literally dozens of iPod shuffles (business giveaways)

All have been refurbished direct from Apple the same warranty as "new".

I've saved well over $500 by utilizing the refurbished "discount".

It's the only way I'll go (by choice).
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Old Jan 28, 2012, 11:29 AM   #19
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One tiny caveat -

Unlike a new Mac, you can't choose your keyboard or tracking device. They all come with a wireless keyboard and Magic Mouse. I prefer the wired keyboard (because I want a number pad) and want to get the Magic Trackpad. Considering it would be $120 or so to get these elsewhere, it somewhat kills the deal when I could have them swapped in with a new iMac. Otherwise, I think they are a fabulous deal.
Another alternative -- If you are replacing an older Mac, or even a Windows box, you can keep your old keyboard and mouse and sell the new ones or bundle them with your old Mac to sweeten the deal when you sell.

I swap these things around at home all the time. My wife likes the numeric keypad so she is using an older keyboard other than the one that came with her iMac. I occasionally switch out my stubby wireless keyboard (I don't use the numeric pad) for a 23 year old Northgate Omnikey keyboard when I have heavy typing to do. All three of my Mac minis not only didn't come with keyboards and mice but also run most of the time without keyboard and mice at all.
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Old Jan 28, 2012, 12:06 PM   #20
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Nearly always buy refurb if i can get the spec i am after, why would you pay a couple of hundred more for a box with an image on it ?
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