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Behind the Apple-Intel Deal, IBM Surprised
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The New York Times provides some details behind Apple's switch to Intel. Of note, IBM was in the dark about the transition until very late in the game. Quote:
The New York Times also confirms that Apple has investigated other chips as well. Apple reportedly met with Sony regarding the Cell design but Jobs "was disappointed with the Cell design, which he believes will be even less effective than the PowerPC." |
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Surprised IBM were left in the dark so long...shows how powerful Apple must be I guess. Nice to see details will be emerging. Guess it's not much of a surprise that IBM make excuses about price, they wouldn't want their products lookin' bad.
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Thats the Jobs in true form.
Interesting to see an insight into his thoughts on the Cell. I'll be interested to see how this whole thing pans out. |
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Who says the PowerPC is not effective??
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i believe it was steve jobs. |
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... so one concern is what keeps IBM interested in developing PowerPC processors in the meanwhile? Contractual obligation?
I don't know if the 970's are used in volume much elsewhere. arn |
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I am quite surprised about the poor performance of the Cell chip that everybody is hyping.
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everything i hear about the cell is terrible... how the xbox360* processing is lightyears ahead of the tech specs and performance that the cell brings to gaming, and now jobs saying that it will be even worse than the PPC... the cell sure isn't getting much good press.
and i'm sure Jobs dumping on the PPC is really going to make anyone want to buy a PPC mac in the next 18-24 months.... |
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Anyone care to enlighten us that don't subscribe to the post?
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IBM didn't fee like discounting the underperforming chips now that they had the Xbox deal.
Apple (and we!) wanted the faster and non-melting chips. IBM was really surprised?.... They didn't have a clue?... If so, then thats really shows the core of the problem. IBM was comfortable enough with what they had with Apple that they didn't have a clue. They didn't see that the Powerbooks sucked, and that people were not buying them, which hurt Apple. And we wonder why IBM has been trending downwards all these years? |
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only in IBM blade servers, and i think you can buy some motherboard from someone which runs a form of linux :S |
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isnt that how it always is? im not surprised. and i wont be surprised if it turns out to be the best chip in the future. |
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I bet they could put 970mp in right now but thats the last card they have for another 2 years.....
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if they have the fab process already in place, why not sell some more chips?... but I disagree with a lot of folks thinking that faster chips might be coming out. With IBM's problems in this area already, now they'll be much less motivated to do it. We might not see ANY speed increases in Apple hardware for the next 2 years in some cases. That could kill Apple. |
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IBM saying it was a cost issue doesn't help them much either. I can see them not saying there were performance/power issues but mention that they are too expensive too that really hits them from both sides. IBM chips are hot, not improving quickly in performance, and are expensive too? Wow.
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um ok. i didnt mean to imply it didnt make toast very well. |
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Here is some interesting reading from ibm:s hompage:
http://www.ibm.com/news/us/en/2005/06/2006_06_10.html News Keeping a secure footing in shifting chip landscape Squeezing ever more transistors onto a single chip means microprocessors are running hotter and drawing more power. And that means design challenges and chip-performance trade offs. At the same time, the microprocessor market is shifting. Personal computers constitute a maturing market, while demand is being driven by proliferating mobile devices, the spread of broadband data connections and the advent of the digital home. IBM clearly saw the branching paths of chip technology many years ago and is meeting the challenges of the new era, particularly with its family of POWER chips. Industry-leading design innovation is pushing POWER inside a wider range of products, from gaming consoles to company servers and lightning-fast supercomputers -- and the Power.org open development community ensures that collaboration fuels the accelerated evolution of POWER chip technology. Learn more: The Future is Wide Open: Understanding IBM’s Strategy
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Side note: I was surprised to find a veteran tech writer like John Markoff falling back on that terrible old "Macintosh faithful" cliché not once but twice in this article. Come on John, you're better than that!
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