All along you guys were RIGHT!

With extra RAM, G3s are OS X machines


There is no reason why a G3 based machine can not run OSX effectively... it can be a bit sluggish on some iBooks but it is still more than usable.

my rev a ibook with it's maxed out 160 MB of RAM will run os x, but slowly and i will put it on there when it becomes my back up mac...just for learning purposes

Yep, wait till you install Jaguar. I think you'll definitely be impressed.

Originally posted by jefhatfield
my rev a ibook with it's maxed out 160 MB of RAM will run os x, but slowly and i will put it on there when it becomes my back up mac...just for learning purposes

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it may be maxed out by Apple spec...but you can drop a 512MB chip in that iBook. That'll bring you to 544MB.

currently thes chips are less than $100

very cool, glad you like your almost new feeling computer

Originally posted by sparkleytone


it may be maxed out by Apple spec...but you can drop a 512MB chip in that iBook. That'll bring you to 544MB.

currently thes chips are less than $100

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how do i do that to a rev. a ibook that maxes out at 160 mb of ram?

i also have os 9...would changing to os x allow this rev a ibook scale to 544 mb of ram?

Originally posted by Hemingray
Yep, wait till you install Jaguar. I think you'll definitely be impressed.

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i'm using 10.2 on a 500mhz imac with 384 megs and did not notice any speed improvement over 10.1.5, even after an erase and install. it boots faster and webpages scroll a little bit better, but i was not at all impressed (apps still take the same amount of time to load, interface is still the same speed). am i doing something wrong?

Originally posted by jefhatfield


how do i do that to a rev. a ibook that maxes out at 160 mb of ram?

i also have os 9...would changing to os x allow this rev a ibook scale to 544 mb of ram?

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I don't know about a 512 chip, but I have a rev. A iBook, and I've installed a 256 chip. Any PC66 or PC100 SO-DIMM, half-height/low-profile (1.25" instead of 2.25") will work, despite Apple's spec. It'll even read that much under OS 9. The 128 MB chip was the highest capacity chip that APPLE ever made, and, consequently, the highest it officially supports. But don't worry, installing a 256 or (if they have one that fits) 512 MB chip won't void your warranty.

I have iMac 350MHz/320 MB RAM, and my beautiful maxtor 120 GB
well 128 MB to 320 MB made jaguar relatively usable to me..
Jaguar is good but there is still no real speed improvement (at least not on my imac).
I put cd with 400 pics, finder crashes when i try to preview those files..
I open them all with Preview and after 1 minute of spinning beachball (thumbnails disabled) i am able to preview them slowly..
iTunes lags the whole system and everything becomes slow.
iPhoto, iCal, Acquisition - unusable because they are too slow. (i still use acquisition tho)
Scrolling is unresponsive and slow everywhere (cca 8 fps) - is it like that on 600+ mhz G4's also?
switching between apps..slow
i understand this is a slow machine.. but is all that slowness necessary? why is scrolling so slower then on os9? The UI is just too slow, wasting of resources..
Just look at the app called KDX (simmilar to carracho) it has custom interface which shows how fast os x can be. Why, oh why cant I see my little mac shining once again? Stupid aqua, I hate it, platinum was more usable, it was the best interface ever! I enjoy working in flash with platinum, and those drop/contextual menu's are too big! Whats wrong with them?
stupid capitalistic pigs..why cant we choose our interface? They should make SDK on making custom theme's for OS X and make it more customizable!

my 2cents

With extra RAM, G3s are OS X machines...not really, not like a G4

my B&W G3 has 704 mbs or ram, and a zif processor (500 mhz G4) from the 350 mhz G3

THAT! made the difference. undoubtably the slow bus and unable to use quartz will be the other set back. However, I use 10.2 primarily, and only boot into 9 for heavy graphics.

oh well, I doubt 10.2.x or 10.3 will make a difference. I wish, but I doubt it.
though apple did it from 8 to 8.6!