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Old Apr 17, 2012, 05:39 PM   #226
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Straight Talk is great...why pay more?

AT&T would be in real trouble if the masses weren't fools who frothed over a "FREE" or "$99 Special" phone versus their total bill over 24 months!

You do need to watch your data usage that is the one thing that will get you terminated. If you use over 2GB per month forget it.
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Old Apr 20, 2012, 04:22 PM   #227
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Does Iphone 4s ( Sprint ) work with straight talk? My friend wants me to help him as he has sprint. I've read about not being able to get the sms but the work around will work.
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Old Apr 21, 2012, 08:50 AM   #228
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Does Iphone 4s ( Sprint ) work with straight talk? My friend wants me to help him as he has sprint. I've read about not being able to get the sms but the work around will work.
Wouldn't work as you can't unlock a CDMA iPhone for US GSM Carriers (i.e. AT&T or StraightTalk).
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Old Apr 22, 2012, 01:04 PM   #229
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Wouldn't work as you can't unlock a CDMA iPhone for US GSM Carriers (i.e. AT&T or StraightTalk).
Technically, it's not a matter of unlocking, but of technology incompatibility. But you're right, StraightTalk is a GSM-only service.
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Old Apr 22, 2012, 01:08 PM   #230
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technically it will work. U will need to use new givey sim imposter and your phone has to be jailbroken so no 5.1 update
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Old Apr 22, 2012, 01:14 PM   #231
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technically it will work. U will need to use new givey sim imposter and your phone has to be jailbroken so no 5.1 update
Really? I thought the iPhone 4S could either run on the CDMA or GSM networks, and not both? I guess I could be wrong. I also thought Sprint/Verizon were CDMA networks and AT&T/StraightTalk/other MVNOs were GSM...
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Old Apr 22, 2012, 02:47 PM   #232
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Really? I thought the iPhone 4S could either run on the CDMA or GSM networks, and not both? I guess I could be wrong. I also thought Sprint/Verizon were CDMA networks and AT&T/StraightTalk/other MVNOs were GSM...
Yes really. 4s has CDMA/GSM radio in it and nothing is stopping it. Its an artificial block that apple put in per request from cell companies. Basically they are filtering out and locking out USA GSM networks. New impostors (givey and RSIM) remove that lock. Only thing is u have to have a jailbreak in order to install one package that is needed for CDMA phones.
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Old Apr 22, 2012, 02:48 PM   #233
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Yes really. 4s has CDMA/GSM radio in it and nothing is stopping it. Its an artificial block that apple put in per request from cell companies. Basically they are filtering out and locking out USA GSM networks. New impostors (givey and RSIM) remove that lock. Only thing is u have to have a jailbreak in order to install one package that is needed for CDMA phones.
Ah, then I am wrong. :-) Thanks for the clarification.
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Old Apr 22, 2012, 10:53 PM   #234
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well is a sprint iphone 4s is capable by jailbreaking as said by
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Old Apr 22, 2012, 11:49 PM   #235
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yes sprint will work too. But u need to find an iphone with 5.0.1 and either jailbreak it or buy it jailbroken already. 5.1 will not work. Then you will need to get Givey card and follow the steps
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Old Apr 23, 2012, 12:02 AM   #236
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The problem with Straight Talk is how well data works!
Works faster than my home WiFi, I don't want to waste it but it's so good, I enjoy using it..
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Old Apr 23, 2012, 12:15 AM   #237
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Straight Talk is great...why pay more

AT&T would be in real trouble if the masses weren't fools who frothed over a "FREE" or "$99 Special" phone versus their total bill over 24 months!
Well I have a family of 5 on AT&T, all on brand new iphone 4S. If we were on Straighttalk, we'd have to pay at $600 per phone $3,000, and for the plan $45 X 5 X 24 months is 5,400. Total cost: $8,400

On AT&T, we get brand new iphone 4S for $200 for 24 months ($1,000), and a family plan of $60 a month, $20 Family text, Mobile to Any Mobile, $25 data total $225 per month. Total cost: $6,400.

AT&T wins over Straighttalk with a family plan of 5 for those who always want the latest iPhones.
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Old Apr 23, 2012, 01:01 AM   #238
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Well I have a family of 5 on AT&T, all on brand new iphone 4S. If we were on Straighttalk, we'd have to pay at $600 per phone $3,000, and for the plan $45 X 5 X 24 months is 5,400. Total cost: $8,400

On AT&T, we get brand new iphone 4S for $200 for 24 months ($1,000), and a family plan of $60 a month, $20 Family text, Mobile to Any Mobile, $25 data total $225 per month. Total cost: $6,400.

AT&T wins over Straighttalk with a family plan of 5 for those who always want the latest iPhones.
Did you factor in the data plan for EACH line? Because a $25 data plan on each line is $125 alone a month.
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Old Apr 23, 2012, 01:03 AM   #239
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Well I have a family of 5 on AT&T, all on brand new iphone 4S. If we were on Straighttalk, we'd have to pay at $600 per phone $3,000, and for the plan $45 X 5 X 24 months is 5,400. Total cost: $8,400

On AT&T, we get brand new iphone 4S for $200 for 24 months ($1,000), and a family plan of $60 a month, $20 Family text, Mobile to Any Mobile, $25 data total $225 per month. Total cost: $6,400.

AT&T wins over Straighttalk with a family plan of 5 for those who always want the latest iPhones.
I've never been on a 'family' plan but apparently you can get pretty good deals that way. Good for you! (no sarcasm, I mean it). But for the average 'single' customer the difference is quite big. $100/month (average) for one of the 'big 4' providers = $1200/year. Straight Talk at $45/month =$540/year. Difference of about $660, which can be used to buy a new phone. I myself bought a mint iphone off craigslist for $300, and my savings over the year are even better. And when you factor in the SECOND year as you did in your comparison, the savings are about $1220. So you could get a brand new phone EVERY YEAR on straight talk (as opposed to every 2) and still not lose any money compared to AT&T. PLUS on top of that you aren't locked into a ridiculous 2 year contract.

On a side rant - the whole 2 year contract thing has to change soon...I think it already has started to considering the recent big push to prepaid coverage. A couple years ago it was ghetto to do prepaid, but now a ton of people (myself included) are doing it. I mean - who is really going to keep the same 'smartphone' for 2 years these days??

EDIT: Oh yeah - what's with the $25 data? You're telling me that your whole family of 5 only pays $25 for data every month? No offense but I don't buy that. What, do you guys get like 10MB each?

Oh lol - and one more EDIT: after reading your post again - you realize that the 'family plan' you are getting actually comes out the same as straight talk? The only benefit is the subsidized phones, which is legit, no doubt. But that just tells you how great Straight Talk is: it offers family-plan rates to individuals. Can't argue against that

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Old Apr 23, 2012, 01:43 AM   #240
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I've never been on a 'family' plan but apparently you can get pretty good deals that way. Good for you! (no sarcasm, I mean it). But for the average 'single' customer the difference is quite big. $100/month (average) for one of the 'big 4' providers = $1200/year. Straight Talk at $45/month =$540/year. Difference of about $660, which can be used to buy a new phone. I myself bought a mint iphone off craigslist for $300, and my savings over the year are even better. And when you factor in the SECOND year as you did in your comparison, the savings are about $1220. So you could get a brand new phone EVERY YEAR on straight talk (as opposed to every 2) and still not lose any money compared to AT&T. PLUS on top of that you aren't locked into a ridiculous 2 year contract.

On a side rant - the whole 2 year contract thing has to change soon...I think it already has started to considering the recent big push to prepaid coverage. A couple years ago it was ghetto to do prepaid, but now a ton of people (myself included) are doing it. I mean - who is really going to keep the same 'smartphone' for 2 years these days??

EDIT: Oh yeah - what's with the $25 data? You're telling me that your whole family of 5 only pays $25 for data every month? No offense but I don't buy that. What, do you guys get like 10MB each?

Oh lol - and one more EDIT: after reading your post again - you realize that the 'family plan' you are getting actually comes out the same as straight talk? The only benefit is the subsidized phones, which is legit, no doubt. But that just tells you how great Straight Talk is: it offers family-plan rates to individuals. Can't argue against that
He's dropping the 9.99 but his math is close. Family plan is $69.99, data is $25/line, text is $29.99 and include unlimited any mobile calling. That totals about $225 BEFORE TAXES AND BOGUS FEES a month.
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Old Apr 23, 2012, 10:51 PM   #241
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He's dropping the 9.99 but his math is close. Family plan is $69.99, data is $25/line, text is $29.99 and include unlimited any mobile calling. That totals about $225 BEFORE TAXES AND BOGUS FEES a month.
Ahhh, $25/line - that makes a lot more sense.
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Old Apr 23, 2012, 11:41 PM   #242
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Does anyone know something about limits? I mean, we all know it's not unlimited.

I heard about 2gb/month of data.. What happens when you reach 2GB? Do they just stop your data?
I also heard about 100mb/day

And talk and text?

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Old Apr 24, 2012, 12:09 AM   #243
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Does anyone know something about limits? I mean, we all know it's not unlimited.

I heard about 2gb/month of data.. What happens when you reach 2GB? Do they just stop your data?
I also heard about 100mb/day

And talk and text?

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After 2gb they freeze your service and you need to call cs
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Old Apr 24, 2012, 12:13 AM   #244
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He's dropping the 9.99 but his math is close. Family plan is $69.99, data is $25/line, text is $29.99 and include unlimited any mobile calling. That totals about $225 BEFORE TAXES AND BOGUS FEES a month.
Yes $25 data per line.
$20 family messaging (yes a few of us have this)
$60 plan first two lines and $10 for 3 more.
New iPhones every 2 years

Oh I didn't add in $200 average selling old iPhones.
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Old Apr 24, 2012, 01:14 AM   #245
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After 2gb they freeze your service and you need to call cs
and Will they defreeze it?

Do you know something about the 100mb/day ? is that true?
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Old Apr 24, 2012, 01:33 AM   #246
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Yes $25 data per line.
$20 family messaging (yes a few of us have this)
$60 plan first two lines and $10 for 3 more.
New iPhones every 2 years

Oh I didn't add in $200 average selling old iPhones.
My math and yours are both off then, I forget to add the $29.97 for three extra lines, but your plan's wrong too. $59.99 family plan and $20 family messaging BOTH don't allow M2AM. M2AM requires 69.99 plan and new $30 messaging feature, unless you have a FAN deal or other special plan - but that's not a fair comparison, because it's not available to any random customer interested.
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Old Apr 24, 2012, 06:33 AM   #247
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2GB is the "safe" limit. If you hit 2GB, your account is not automatically suspended.

People have reported going to 5GB in a single month before getting suspended. One month, I used about 4GB and was not suspended.
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and Will they defreeze it?

Do you know something about the 100mb/day ? is that true?
I've definitely used more than 100 mb in one day, but I stayed under 2 GB for the month. I was tempted to go over the 2 GB limit, just to see what would happen, but I didn't.

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and Will they defreeze it?

Do you know something about the 100mb/day ? is that true?
Well they freeze your data but not your account (IE you can still call and text).

You either call or wait until it's time to re-up your account.
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Old Apr 24, 2012, 03:23 PM   #250
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My math and yours are both off then, I forget to add the $29.97 for three extra lines, but your plan's wrong too. $59.99 family plan and $20 family messaging BOTH don't allow M2AM. M2AM requires 69.99 plan and new $30 messaging feature, unless you have a FAN deal or other special plan - but that's not a fair comparison, because it's not available to any random customer interested.


Main line:
Monthly Charges - Feb 24 thru Mar 23
FamilyTalk Nation 700 with Rollover $60.00 <--2 lines
AWS Legal Settlement $0.00
Family Messaging Unlimited with Mobile to Any Mobile Calling $20.00
DataPro 2GB for iPhone $25.00
National Account Discount −$17.00
Total Monthly Charges $88
Plus I have A-List to call any 10 landline unlimited

3 - 5 lines:
9.99 per line
$25 X 4 data $100
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at&t: Approx. 228
Straighttalk: 225

AT&T bonus: new iphone every 2 years!!

AGAIN: $20 FAMILY MESSAGE WITH MOBILE TO ANY MOBILE IS AVAILABLE IF YOU ASK. REGULAR PRICE FOR THE SHEEPS $30

I have a great plan and I realize that most people won't have this great plan. It took years surfing Howard forums and here to get these great deals. If I were a single man needing one line I would get straighttalk. But for a family of 5 this deal is the best for us wanting new iphones.

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