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Old May 24, 2015, 05:02 PM   #1
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Will a Mac Pro 2009 with upgraded firmware 4,1 -> 5,1 be obsolete next year?

In the practice of Apple obsolete products are those that were discontinued more than seven years ago. So far Apple has discontinued all hardware service for obsolete products with no exceptions.

Looking this thread: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1877381 i am wondering if a Mac Pro 2009 upgraded to firmware 5,1 will be obsolete next year, meaning a new OS X 10.12 at the end of 2016 cannot not be installed without any hacks?

An upgraded Mac Pro 2009 shows in 'About this Mac' the year 2009, with regard to the serial number of the Mac. But if you look at 'further informations' you'll see modell-identification 'MacPro5,1', with regard to the upgraded Boot-ROM version MP51.007F.B03

Does anyone know if the OS X Installer checks the serial number or the Boot-ROM version?

If it's checking the Boot-ROM version, further OS X upgrades will be no problem for the next 3-4 years, like the Mac Pro 2012 modells, i hope.
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Old May 24, 2015, 07:41 PM   #2
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Nothing to worry about.

If you look at how they ACTUALLY made the 2006/07 Mac Pros obsolete it was by restricting their ability to run 10.8 and later.

Any 64bit CPU Mac can actually run Yosemite. However, the vast majority of "forced obsolete" machines have some god-awful GPU that was barely adequate 8 years ago and not much better then integrated GPU. The iMacs and MacBooks of those days can be easily modded to install Yosemite. However, nothing can be done about the GPUs. They are all hopelessly mired in 2006/7/8 and will never, ever have GPU acceleration. No help from OpenCl and clunky, cludgy screen drawing that will make you cringe.

Meanwhile the 2006 Mac Pro can easily accept a new GPU and a WiFi BT card that brings it up to current spec. Change 2 files and it is running OSX Yosemite beautifully.

In short, one of the easiest ways for Apple to relegate machines to the recycling center is to put parts in that are:

A: essential for use
B: not able to be changed for new parts

Then , just stop writing drivers or OS integration for said parts. Instant obsolescence.

You can change many parts of 2009 and it is identical to a 2012. So while Apple can start calling it "obsolete", they will have a much harder time making it functionally so. Especially when many will be running significantly better GPUs then the "glued in time" 6,1s.
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Old May 24, 2015, 08:00 PM   #3
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Nothing to worry about.
Are you sure! As soon as he is finished in the lab, only 6,1 and newer will ever boot again! We will sell nMP's to all 1,1 through 5,1 users! This will happen very soon. Let's synchronize iWatches!

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Old May 25, 2015, 01:37 AM   #4
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I believe that it's safe to say that you will be able to extract a few more years of good use out of your cMP before it becomes completely obsolete and useless. Now what Apple wants, that's a completely different story. I wouldn't worry about it though
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Old May 25, 2015, 05:00 AM   #5
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Thanks a lot for all your Feedback! I also believe you can get a few years out of the 2009 cMP yet.

To repeat my question: It's enough to upgrade the Boot-ROM version to 5,1, like I already did to get the Xeon W3690 working, to outwit future OS X Installers from 2016 and following years, or are hacks like a bootloader needed?
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Old May 25, 2015, 05:44 AM   #6
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To repeat my question: It's enough to upgrade the Boot-ROM version to 5,1, like I already did to get the Xeon W3690 working, to outwit future OS X Installers from 2016 and following years, or are hacks like a bootloader needed?
My crystall ball says: maybe yes, maybe no.
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