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Intel Looking Toward Retina Display PCs by 2013

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As reported by Liliputing (via Electronista), Intel is envisioning the high-resolution "Retina" displays pushed by Apple in its iOS devices as the future of PCs, with comments at its Intel Developer Forum in Beijing noting that the company is supporting those plans with its chips.

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Specifically, Intel sees handheld and tablet devices targeting resolutions in the range of 300 pixels per inch (ppi), while notebook computers target roughly 250 ppi and all-in-one desktop computers register around 220 ppi.
So here's what Intel sees happening in the computer space over the next few years:

- Phones and media players with 5 inch, 1280 x 800 pixel displays (this is already happening)
- Tablets with 10 inch, 2560 x 1440 pixel displays
- Ultrabooks with 11 inch, 2560 x 1440 pixel displays
- Ultrabooks with 13 inch, 2800 x 1800 pixel displays
- Laptops with 15 inch, 3840 x 2160 pixel displays
- All-in-one desktops with 3840 x 2160 pixel displays
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As noted by 9to5Mac, Intel executive Kirk Skaugen specifically referred to these displays by the "Retina" term coined by Apple at the introduction of the iPhone 4 back in 2010. In his presentation, Skaugen mentioned that Intel's third-generation Core i-Series processors (also known as Ivy Bridge) will support Retina displays if manufacturers choose to offer them. This support is not new, however, as he also noted that the current second-generation Core i-Series chips (Sandy Bridge) also support Retina displays, although Ivy Bridge will mark a significant leap forward in graphics support.

Apple is of course rumored to be working toward releasing Retina-capable Macs, as evidenced by support for the "HiDPI" mode showing up in OS X Lion and Mountain Lion. Rumors have suggested that an updated 15-inch MacBook Pro set to appear in the near future could indeed carry a 2880x1800 screen capable of utilizing HiDPI mode to display sharper content.

Article Link: Intel Looking Toward Retina Display PCs by 2013
 
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https://www.macrumors.com/2012/04/12/intel-looking-toward-retina-display-pcs-by-2013/
I was planning on running my MBP into the ground for as many years as possible until it falls apart like the Blues Mobile but a retina MBP?

Might have to save up for that.
 
About time... so sick of sub par resolution. Im still pre unibody and vowed not to get a macbook pro untill they implement the retina =D. Hope apple does it by Q1 2013
 
I wonder if this will be the start of mass reports of yellowing displays, excessive dead pixels & color uniformity issues. :p

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C. Alan said:
Just think of what would happen if this technology came to TVs. Ultra Blu Ray?
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4K blu-ray but there's currently no content.

Upconverting is not optimal and a waste of a good display without the proper source.
 
Jasoco said:
But I want them noooooooooooooow!

In my MacBook Air.
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Apple is usually a year or two ahead of the competition....so don't be surprised if they come out soon...maybe even in a month.

He worded this carefully....Skaugen mentioned that Intel's third-generation Core i-Series processors (also known as Ivy Bridge) will support Retina displays if manufacturers choose to offer them.


He's putting that on the manufacturers.
:)
 
I don't want 1920x1200 on a 15" screen, elements are small enough on 1680x1050!

Maybe it is just me, but I like things being the size they are at 1440x900 on a 15" screen. I was happy for 2880x1800 for the 15" being the rumoured resolution!
 
Given all the hype for 2012 Apple products, the rumors of a big MacBook Pro refresh and Retina Display graphics in OS X Lion, I'd be surprised if all new MacBooks don't have Retina Displays.

Can you imagine a 27" Retina Thunderbolt display? If they times the current resolution by 4 it's be 10240 x 5760 pixels! That's 58,982,400 pixels!

. . . Okay, maybe that won't get upgraded any time soon.
 
Kilamite said:
I don't want 1920x1200 on a 15" screen, elements are small enough on 1680x1050!

Maybe it is just me, but I like things being the size they are at 1440x900 on a 15" screen. I was happy for 2880x1800 for the 15" being the rumoured resolution!
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I'm still sad they dumped the resolution independence and went down the hi-dpi route instead. One size does not fit all...
 
Kilamite said:
I don't want 1920x1200 on a 15" screen, elements are small enough on 1680x1050!

Maybe it is just me, but I like things being the size they are at 1440x900 on a 15" screen. I was happy for 2880x1800 for the 15" being the rumoured resolution!
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Yeah - keep the elements the same size, just make the image crisper, Apple!
 
itickings said:
I'm still sad they dumped the resolution independence and went down the hi-dpi route instead. One size does not fit all...
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Yeah but I'd rather Hi-DPI though. Resolution independence works great for interface elements, but not for webpages. You'd end up with pixelated images on webpages if they are increased in size (i.e. zooming a webpage).

Least with Hi-DPI everything is sharper, and while images may not be optimised for double resolution, they won't look any less worse than they do on a non-retina display.
 
If this is true it will ruin everybody who's spent any money on an external display. If I get a potential new Macbook pro then the 15" display would have way more pixels than my external 27" HP display.
I know it would be retina and everything so everything would look the same size but the HP would just look so crappy!
All I hope is that the 2012 iMac doesn't have Retina displays so I can keep my lovely monitor.
 
Here's hoping for a sub $500 24 inch IPS LED retina display with multitouch and a stand that supports height, pivot, tilt and swivel adjustments. Then $700 27", $1100 30" and $1600 36".

Then perhaps retina displays going up to 120" at 300ppi.:cool:

Seriously though I am more interested in reasonably priced desktop displays with multitouch ability than retina. Not with multitouch being a complete replacement to the keyboard and mouse but to augment them.

My biggest concern with retina is trying to play modern GPU intensive games at native resolution at high to max settings. I doubt the GeForce GTX 680 in SLI could drive a 24" at 220ppi with many games.
 
SuperDudeMax said:
If this is true it will ruin everybody who's spent any money on an external display. If I get a potential new Macbook pro then the 15" display would have way more pixels than my external 27" HP display.
I know it would be retina and everything so everything would look the same size but the HP would just look so crappy!
All I hope is that the 2012 iMac doesn't have Retina displays so I can keep my lovely monitor.
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Oh come on! The rest of us should wait for you to be ready? Bring it on now! I'm ready for a new laptop.
 
SuperDudeMax said:
If this is true it will ruin everybody who's spent any money on an external display. If I get a potential new Macbook pro then the 15" display would have way more pixels than my external 27" HP display.
I know it would be retina and everything so everything would look the same size but the HP would just look so crappy!
All I hope is that the 2012 iMac doesn't have Retina displays so I can keep my lovely monitor.
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This has been known for some time...and this is just a fact of life and technology.

People had TV's before this that were NTSC, then 720P then 1080P.

You buy what you need and when you need it but you have to account for technology plateaus...where Tech reaches a new point much superior then the last. You either wait or you deal with your previous purchase.

Example..rumors were abound about a retina display for the iPad 3 even back during the 2. For some it didn't matter..for others like myself, we made a conscience decision to wait for the 3 because it was a big tech jump in quality of display and knew that going forward, this would be the new norm.

You will have to deal with the crappy HP monitor or buy a new one when it comes out that is Retina.
 
djrod said:
A tv is actually retina, you can't see pixels on a TV, you watch tv far away form the screen already
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Yes, this is true, in fact for anything other than a desktop monitor, this may indeed be overkill.

My work PC has a 22 inch monitor, and the resolution is set at 1920x1200, and it may be my 40 year old eyes, but at a viewing distance of around 30 inches, I can't see any pixels.
 
One fun thing to note is that at 3840 x 2160, Thunderbolt would not be able to drive the display - being that it can only handle 10gbps of data per device (you'd require 12). You could use all of its channels, but you'd lose daisy chain capability and thus arguably the point of it.

Regular displayport however can, and still do it with 10 bit colour channels (30bpp).
 
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