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Old Apr 23, 2012, 07:35 PM   #1
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How come only iPhone owners are 'sheeple'?

OK so Samsung has a new teaser ad out for their new Galaxy phone and of course they take a swipe Apple fans (in the form of sheep). This got me wondering, why is it just Apple fans to be considered 'sheeple' or part of a cult? If you buy a Samsung smartphone you're not a Samsung or Android sheeple, but if you buy an iPhone you are? I dont get it. What is the point of Samsung's obsession with Apple? Do they think they're going to win over iPhone customers by insulting them?

Yes I know Apple had the Mac v PC ads which one could argue made fun of Windows users. But based on market share that really was David vs Golliath. Can you really say that in the case of Samsung? Worldwide they sell more phones than Apple does; worldwide there are more phones running Android than iOS. Yes Apple dominates the smartphone market in terms of profit, but certainly not market share. Also I would argue people using iPhones are doing so moreso out of personal preference and choice than those who use Windows PC's (I know the only reason I use a Windows laptop is because of familiarity; it's the software I use at work every day). So this idea that iPhone users are a bunch of 'sheeple' who don't know any better doesn't wash with me. And it certainly doesn't make me interested in a Samsung Galaxy phone.
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Old Apr 23, 2012, 07:45 PM   #2
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Old Apr 23, 2012, 08:05 PM   #3
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Welcome to MacRumors. Lots of psychologists here.

The same could have been said about Apple years ago when they made the famous Big Brother ad about Microsoft. However, I don't think they were obsessed as the OP put it, any more than Samsung is obsessed with the iPhone.
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Old Apr 23, 2012, 08:17 PM   #4
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Welcome to MacRumors. Lots of psychologists here.

The same could have been said about Apple years ago when they made the famous Big Brother ad about Microsoft. However, I don't think they were obsessed as the OP put it, any more than Samsung is obsessed with the iPhone.
I laugh when I think of those old Big Brother ads. Except who is the Big Brother now? Apple?? Just maybe.
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Old Apr 23, 2012, 08:38 PM   #5
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Samsung would kill people for the cult-like following that Apple has. They would PAY MONEY to have it. That's a fact.
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Old Apr 23, 2012, 08:39 PM   #6
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I'm not offended by the commercials, but I find them misguided.

I don't think most Android users and iPhone users care about their platforms in the way that's portrayed by Samsung. It's just the vocal minority on either sides (fanboys) who pedantically compare specs and differences to claim superiority. It seems naive and misguided for Samsung to continually pander to this small group of people, thinking they may be winning over an audience.

Apple's Mac vs. PC commercials were done better than these Samsung commercials. The PC guy was lovable! And Apple wasn't taking shots at PC users; Samsung actively targets iPhone users more so than the iPhone itself in their commercials.
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Samsung has a new teaser ad out for their new Galaxy phone and of course they take a swipe Apple fans (in the form of sheep).
How do you know the ad is specifically making fun of Apple fans? That's an assumption that YOU are making.
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Old Apr 23, 2012, 09:24 PM   #8
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How do you know the ad is specifically making fun of Apple fans? That's an assumption that YOU are making.
Oh please we all know any references to sheep are about Apple fans. Who else would they be referring to?

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Welcome to MacRumors. Lots of psychologists here.

The same could have been said about Apple years ago when they made the famous Big Brother ad about Microsoft. However, I don't think they were obsessed as the OP put it, any more than Samsung is obsessed with the iPhone.
Of course Samsung is obsessed with Apple. That's why they have ads that feature sheep and make fun of people standing in line (I doubt they're making fun of Microsoft or RIM here). That's why their head designer recently said someday they'll be as good as Apple & Jony Ive.

And as far as comparisons to the whole Mac v PC, no way is Apple the Microsoft of the phone market. More people buy Samsung devices than iPhones. Perhaps Samsung customers are the sheeple?
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Old Apr 23, 2012, 09:30 PM   #9
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You'll only be offended if you consider yourself a sheep.

I use whatever smart phone my work gives me. It's currently an iPhone 4S.

Samsung isn't the only one that laughs at that behavior. Face it, if apple said they were going to start selling the new iPhone tomorrow without giving out a single spec there would be a line of "sheeple" around the building.

They aren't referring to iPhone owners but the behavior of a lot of them.
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Old Apr 23, 2012, 09:55 PM   #10
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I don't think Samsungis trying to recruit die hard Apple fans with these ads. They're more after the casual user who looks at the ad and says "do I really want to be like one of THOSE people?" and decides to get the Samsung instead of the iPhone.
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Old Apr 23, 2012, 10:00 PM   #11
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Oh please we all know any references to sheep are about Apple fans. Who else would they be referring to?

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Of course Samsung is obsessed with Apple. That's why they have ads that feature sheep and make fun of people standing in line (I doubt they're making fun of Microsoft or RIM here). That's why their head designer recently said someday they'll be as good as Apple & Jony Ive.

Just like Apple used to be obsessed with Microsoft.

And as far as comparisons to the whole Mac v PC, no way is Apple the Microsoft of the phone market. More people buy Samsung devices than iPhones. Perhaps Samsung customers are the sheeple?
False. Android is on more phones but more IPhones are sold than Samsung. Saying Apple is not the perceived King of the smartphone market is crazy.
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why is it just Apple fans to be considered 'sheeple' or part of a cult?
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Old Apr 24, 2012, 03:47 AM   #13
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You'll only be offended if you consider yourself a sheep.
Exactly.... As I always say no one can make you feel inferior without your permission.

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Old Apr 24, 2012, 04:17 AM   #15
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Because Apple attracts more elitists/blind followers than any other company.

This is probably, in part, due to having the highest market share (I'm talking individual phones here, not OSes).

Not trying to offend anybody. It's true. I'm a member of both Android and iOS communities, and the iOS ones have more people who are willing to defend iOS to the grave than Android does.
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Because Apple attracts more elitists/blind followers than any other company.

This is probably, in part, due to having the highest market share (I'm talking individual phones here, not OSes).

Not trying to offend anybody. It's true. I'm a member of both Android and iOS communities, and the iOS ones have more people who are willing to defend iOS to the grave than Android does.
Elitists? That's a bit arrogant of you imho. I've been using Apple hardware since around 1979 or so and I don't consider myself elitist. I just use what I love.

Typically, it's the Apple hater that uses terms like elitist and sheeple and stuff like that, while they go on and on about how open and great Android is. That's just what I've noticed over the years.
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Elitists? That's a bit arrogant of you imho. I've been using Apple hardware since around 1979 or so and I don't consider myself elitist. I just use what I love.

Typically, it's the Apple hater that uses terms like elitist and sheeple and stuff like that, while they go on and on about how open and great Android is. That's just what I've noticed over the years.
You like what you like and that's fine, that doesn't make you an elitist.

Elitists are the ones who don't know or care what the competition does because they're happy in their little bubble. Lots of people (this site is no exception) put down Android without knowing its capabilities. That kind of behaviour is elitist. If you know the benefits and pitfalls of each platform and make an informed choice, fine..but don't trash talk other platforms if you don't know much about them.
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You like what you like and that's fine, that doesn't make you an elitist.

Elitists are the ones who don't know or care what the competition does because they're happy in their little bubble. Lots of people (this site is no exception) put down Android without knowing its capabilities. That kind of behaviour is elitist. If you know the benefits and pitfalls of each platform and make an informed choice, fine..but don't trash talk other platforms if you don't know much about them.
I agree, you shouldn't trash talk something you haven't tried. The problem arises when people who have tried and subsequently trash talk something get accused of being "iSheep". It basically means that in the eyes of some people, it's not possible to dislike Android. You either like it, or you're an "iSheep" whose opinion doesn't matter anyway.
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I agree, you shouldn't trash talk something you haven't tried. The problem arises when people who have tried and subsequently trash talk something get accused of being "iSheep". It basically means that in the eyes of some people, it's not possible to dislike Android. You either like it, or you're an "iSheep" whose opinion doesn't matter anyway.
Some people are like that yeah, it's a very stupid viewpoint.

I just take exception to when people are trying to put down something without actually knowing what it does.
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Some people are like that yeah, it's a very stupid viewpoint.

I just take exception to when people are trying to put down something without actually knowing what it does.
You aren't to know what people do and don't know. As such, you just have to let these things slide and move on.
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Samsung are trying to get their own "Cult" following. Which will never happen.
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This got me wondering, why is it just Apple fans to be considered 'sheeple' or part of a cult?
People that use these descriptions are often lonely guys fishing for reactions on internet forums, or bitter people that get angry because others enjoy using something that they don't like. Or want to like. Especially if it's something that's popular, like Apple's phones. So, I wouldn't take it too seriously. I mean, the Android following on phone forums is just as cult-like as far as I can see. And of course Samsung can make any ad they want. They copied the iphone and ipad, why not copy the ads as well, right? Too bad this particular ad is not very clever though.
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People that use these descriptions are often lonely guys fishing for reactions on internet forums, or bitter people that get angry because others enjoy using something that they don't like. Or want to like. Especially if it's something that's popular, like Apple's phones. So, I wouldn't take it too seriously. I mean, the Android following on phone forums is just as cult-like as far as I can see. And of course Samsung can make any ad they want. They copied the iphone and ipad, why not copy the ads as well, right? Too bad this particular ad is not very clever though.
I'll certainly agree with you that the Android movement has reached cult like status now. What amuses me the most is how many of these people don't seem to realise the irony of their words as a result of this.
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I'll certainly agree with you that the Android movement has reached cult like status now. What amuses me the most is how many of these people don't seem to realise the irony of their words as a result of this.
Irony, yep. Comparable to the Windows vs Mac thing. Die-hard users of the mediocre software Gates & Co have been crancking out for years, calling people that gave their choice of computer platform some actual thought sheep. Go figure.
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