IBM Announces the PowerPC 970MP

MacRumors · 08:12 PM

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Japanese sites are reporting on the "Power Everywhere Forum 2005" conference which takes place today in Japan. IBM's presentation provides official details on the PowerPC 970MP processor which has been long rumored. The specs appear to include (presentation slide):

970MP
Dual core
1.4-2.5GHz
Each core has 1MB L2 cache (2MB total)
One core can be swiched off for low power operation

Also Low Power 970FX processors were described:

1.2GHz at 13W
1.4GHz at 13W
1.6GHz at 16W

An official press release can be found (Japanese).

970MP based PowerMacs have been expected for later this year. Despite Apple's recent announcement for plans to switch to Intel based Macs, at least one or two more PowerPC based PowerMacs are due before the switch.

ppc_michael · Jul 7, 2005, 11:33 AM

Powerbook G5s for the "event" tonight maybe!!!?

nagromme · Jul 7, 2005, 11:36 AM

Good! We've got two years of PowerPC Macs ahead of us, so new chips late is better than new chips never

(And I don't think an Apple event is expected tonight--that seems to have been a misunderstanding about the color iPods from last week.)

Mudbug · Jul 7, 2005, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ppc_michael

Powerbook G5s for the "event" tonight maybe!!!?

tonight's event has been cancelled.
http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1163

mj_1903 · Jul 7, 2005, 11:37 AM

Some nice processors there, the new PowerMacs (MP) and iMacs (FX) should be quite nice machines.

Interesting to see though that IBM have announced them before Apple announced then, obviously something that Apple would not want. I wonder if IBM simply doesn't care anymore.

mgargan1 · Jul 7, 2005, 11:38 AM

well, I wonder if IBM would keep apple of it's selling list, just to spite them. Make them suffer for going to Intel? I know it probably wouldn't happen, because IBM can still make money off of Apple in the mean time, but just a thought.

But, way to go IBM... I also like the fact that each core has double the current cache. That will really help things out.

miloblithe · Jul 7, 2005, 11:39 AM

I imagine that Apple's relationship with IBM is under contract. IBM also isn't going to give up sales.

OK. So they are announced. How ong until they are available?

gernb · Jul 7, 2005, 11:40 AM

i hope they are in powermacs soon... i'm ready to buy today.

Don't panic · Jul 7, 2005, 11:40 AM

good news.
i'm in the market for an iMac soon so I'll wait for the update.

tuartboy · Jul 7, 2005, 11:41 AM

wow, this came out of left field. I'll admit I completely forgot about the dualcores on june 6th.

The real question is if this will bring the G5s up into the same playing field as the high-end x86 dual cores. Maybe that will allieviate some of the buying scare.

zelmo · Jul 7, 2005, 11:42 AM

I can't see Apple bothering to put a G5 in their laptops this late into the game. Aren't they expected to be the first InteliMacs announced in early '06? That'd be two major revisions in 6 months or so.
Seems more likely to me that two of these new 970MP's will go into the PowerMacs and Xserves in the near future, with a single 970MP going in the iMac line.

Regardless, it is nice to see new PPC chips from IBM.

broken_keyboard · Jul 7, 2005, 11:43 AM

Dual core

No 3 GHz

iCreate · Jul 7, 2005, 11:45 AM

Umm.....can we all switch back now?

Chef Medeski · Jul 7, 2005, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powermac666

I can't see Apple bothering to put a G5 in their laptops this late into the game. Aren't they expected to be the first InteliMacs announced in early '06? That'd be two major revisions in 6 months or so.
Seems more likely to me that two of these new 970MP's will go into the PowerMacs and Xserves in the near future, with a single 970MP going in the iMac line.

Regardless, it is nice to see new PPC chips from IBM.

Maybe they will put the 970FX into the Powerbook before the switch to mac. If not at least hopefully in the ibooks.

miloblithe · Jul 7, 2005, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powermac666

I can't see Apple bothering to put a G5 in their laptops this late into the game. Aren't they expected to be the first InteliMacs announced in early '06? That'd be two major revisions in 6 months or so.
Seems more likely to me that two of these new 970MP's will go into the PowerMacs and Xserves in the near future, with a single 970MP going in the iMac line.

Regardless, it is nice to see new PPC chips from IBM.

I think you're right. That's probably why those IBM execs were grumpily saying that heat wasn't the issue, because they knew these chips would never make it into PowerBooks.

amac4me · Jul 7, 2005, 11:45 AM

Hmmm .... I wonder what this means for all of us who are considering purchasing. I'm in the market for a Powerbook but I can't seem to make up my mind.

miketcool · Jul 7, 2005, 11:45 AM

Perhaps the portables will see some new life before they get slapped with that Intel Inside sticker!

milozauckerman · Jul 7, 2005, 11:46 AM

Glad I just ordered a dual 2GHz, I guess I should have held out a bit longer.

Josh396 · Jul 7, 2005, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miloblithe

I imagine that Apple's relationship with IBM is under contract. IBM also isn't going to give up sales.

OK. So they are announced. How ong until they are available?

Yeah Apple couldn't be stupid enough to not have a conract with their only main chip supplier.

I'm also waiting to see how long until they hit the market. I'm won't be buying one but I would like to see one in action as well as it's price. I think it will also be interesting if Apple chooses to go Dual Core Dual Processor. I'd imagine that would be on fast machine if it's running at 2.5 Ghz.

broken_keyboard · Jul 7, 2005, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powermac666

I can't see Apple bothering to put a G5 in their laptops this late into the game. Aren't they expected to be the first InteliMacs announced in early '06?

Steve said the first Intel Macs would be out by WWDC 2006, and the transition would be almost complete by WWDC 2007. He also said the low end machines would be first to transition, so presumably no Intel PowerMac until June 2007 or later.

iDM · Jul 7, 2005, 11:47 AM

Will these possibly be used in the PowerBooks since it mentions the ability to turn off on the cores for lower power consumption??

Josh396 · Jul 7, 2005, 11:47 AM

Also, is the 2.5 Ghz higher than expected? I thought I read somewhere it would be more like 2.0 Ghz... maybe I'm wrong.

speleoterra · Jul 7, 2005, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mudbug

tonight's event has been cancelled.
http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1163

...read article
how the hell could all of the media misunderstood that there would be Apple media event today?
You dont send out birthday invitations to your kids birthday party that has already had the presents opened.
Weird.

wdlove · Jul 7, 2005, 11:49 AM

This may be good news for us. I will be cautiously optimistic until Apple makes use of this release by IBM. The PowerPC 970MP if used by Apple could just be the thing to again boost sales until the transition to Intel.

Josh396 · Jul 7, 2005, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iDM

Will these possibly be used in the PowerBooks since it mentions the ability to turn off on the cores for lower power consumption??

I don't think there's anyway we'll see these in Powerbooks, especially since they should be one of the first computers to use Intel chips.

Jul 7, 2005, 11:32 AM	#1
MacRumors macrumors bot Join Date: Apr 2001	IBM Announces the PowerPC 970MP http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif Japanese sites are reporting on the "Power Everywhere Forum 2005" conference which takes place today in Japan. IBM's presentation provides official details on the PowerPC 970MP processor which has been long rumored. The specs appear to include (presentation slide): 970MP Dual core 1.4-2.5GHz Each core has 1MB L2 cache (2MB total) One core can be swiched off for low power operation Also Low Power 970FX processors were described: 1.2GHz at 13W 1.4GHz at 13W 1.6GHz at 16W An official press release can be found (Japanese). 970MP based PowerMacs have been expected for later this year. Despite Apple's recent announcement for plans to switch to Intel based Macs, at least one or two more PowerPC based PowerMacs are due before the switch. Last edited by bousozoku : Jul 7, 2005 at 08:12 PM.

Jul 7, 2005, 11:33 AM	#2
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nagromme macrumors 601 Join Date: May 2002 Location: Blinking blue dot	Good! We've got two years of PowerPC Macs ahead of us, so new chips late is better than new chips never (And I don't think an Apple event is expected tonight--that seems to have been a misunderstanding about the color iPods from last week.) __________________ nagromme Would you like a treatment?

Jul 7, 2005, 11:40 AM	#9
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Jul 7, 2005, 11:41 AM	#10
tuartboy macrumors 6502a Join Date: May 2005	wow, this came out of left field. I'll admit I completely forgot about the dualcores on june 6th. The real question is if this will bring the G5s up into the same playing field as the high-end x86 dual cores. Maybe that will allieviate some of the buying scare. __________________ NateTodd.com

Jul 7, 2005, 11:37 AM	#5
mj_1903 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Some nice processors there, the new PowerMacs (MP) and iMacs (FX) should be quite nice machines. Interesting to see though that IBM have announced them before Apple announced then, obviously something that Apple would not want. I wonder if IBM simply doesn't care anymore.

Jul 7, 2005, 11:38 AM	#6
mgargan1 macrumors 65816 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Reston, VA	well, I wonder if IBM would keep apple of it's selling list, just to spite them. Make them suffer for going to Intel? I know it probably wouldn't happen, because IBM can still make money off of Apple in the mean time, but just a thought. But, way to go IBM... I also like the fact that each core has double the current cache. That will really help things out.

Jul 7, 2005, 11:39 AM	#7
miloblithe macrumors 68020 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Washington, DC	I imagine that Apple's relationship with IBM is under contract. IBM also isn't going to give up sales. OK. So they are announced. How ong until they are available?

Jul 7, 2005, 11:40 AM	#8
gernb macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2002	i hope they are in powermacs soon... i'm ready to buy today.

Jul 7, 2005, 11:42 AM	#11
zelmo macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mac since 7.5	I can't see Apple bothering to put a G5 in their laptops this late into the game. Aren't they expected to be the first InteliMacs announced in early '06? That'd be two major revisions in 6 months or so. Seems more likely to me that two of these new 970MP's will go into the PowerMacs and Xserves in the near future, with a single 970MP going in the iMac line. Regardless, it is nice to see new PPC chips from IBM. __________________ Unholy Ferret Invasion is coming to your town!

Jul 7, 2005, 11:43 AM	#12
broken_keyboard Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Secret Moon base	Dual core No 3 GHz

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Jul 7, 2005, 11:45 AM	#17
miketcool macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jun 2003	Perhaps the portables will see some new life before they get slapped with that Intel Inside sticker!

Jul 7, 2005, 11:46 AM	#18
milozauckerman macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jun 2005	Glad I just ordered a dual 2GHz, I guess I should have held out a bit longer.

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iDM macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Commonwealth of PA/The First State-DE	Will these possibly be used in the PowerBooks since it mentions the ability to turn off on the cores for lower power consumption??

Jul 7, 2005, 11:47 AM	#22
Josh396 macrumors 65816 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Peoria/Chicago, IL	Also, is the 2.5 Ghz higher than expected? I thought I read somewhere it would be more like 2.0 Ghz... maybe I'm wrong.

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