Register FAQ / Rules Forum Spy Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Go Back   MacRumors Forums > Mac Community > Community Discussion > Politics, Religion, Social Issues

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old Sep 6, 2012, 01:00 AM   #101
LIVEFRMNYC
macrumors 68030
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by vega07 View Post
Hacker Group Claims to Have Romney’s Tax Returns

Who believes this?

The Secret Service is investigating.
Yes, the glory of bitcoins.
LIVEFRMNYC is online now   0 Reply With Quote
Old Sep 6, 2012, 01:24 AM   #102
Peace
macrumors P6
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Space--The ONLY Frontier
Quote:
Originally Posted by mudslag View Post
Interesting. I wonder if there really is anything on the flash drives. The story does say a scanned 1040 form from 2010 signed my Romney was included in the Manila envelope.

Now the secret service has them.
__________________
Throw us one Russell---John Fox Super Bowl 49
Peace is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Sep 6, 2012, 01:46 AM   #103
vega07
macrumors 65816
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Quote:
Originally Posted by mudslag View Post
This keeps getting weirder and weirder. But your link says they opened it and there was nothing in it of substance.
vega07 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Sep 6, 2012, 02:21 AM   #104
Peace
macrumors P6
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Space--The ONLY Frontier
Quote:
Originally Posted by vega07 View Post
This keeps getting weirder and weirder. But your link says they opened it and there was nothing in it of substance.
Where in that article did you read that ? Perhaps I missed it.
__________________
Throw us one Russell---John Fox Super Bowl 49
Peace is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Sep 6, 2012, 02:42 AM   #105
vega07
macrumors 65816
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peace View Post
Where in that article did you read that ? Perhaps I missed it.
Oh sorry, I misread.
vega07 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Sep 7, 2012, 03:07 PM   #106
Coleman2010
macrumors 68000
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: NYC
FoxNews asked Romney why he didn't mention the troops. Romney's response:

"When you give a speech you don't go through a laundry list, you talk about the things you think are important."

Not important?

DICK!!
Coleman2010 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Sep 7, 2012, 03:33 PM   #107
vega07
macrumors 65816
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coleman2010 View Post
"When you give a speech you don't go through a laundry list, you talk about the things you think are important."


DICK!!
LOL. Another gaffe. I'll give Romney the benefit of the doubt and believe that he does care about the troops (although his deferrals during Viet Nam make me think otherwise). But man, this guy really needs to check and balance what he says more consciously.
vega07 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Sep 7, 2012, 07:52 PM   #108
Huntn
Thread Starter
macrumors 604
 
Huntn's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: The Misty Mountains
Quote:
Originally Posted by vega07 View Post
LOL. Another gaffe. I'll give Romney the benefit of the doubt and believe that he does care about the troops (although his deferrals during Viet Nam make me think otherwise). But man, this guy really needs to check and balance what he says more consciously.
Not to sound like a broken record, but my understanding is that the Romney Campaign wants to cut 11 billion in military benefits, while cutting 4 trillion in the 1%ers taxes. Keep in perspective the huge number of damaged citizens who have come home from Wars over the last 11 years. How do we explain that away?
__________________
The modern business ethos: "I'm worth it, you're not, and I'm a glutton!"
MBP, 2.2 GHz intel i7, Radeon HD 6750M, Bootcamp: W7.
PC: i5 4670k, 8GB RAM, Asus GTX670 (2GB VRAM), W7.
Huntn is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Sep 7, 2012, 08:04 PM   #109
mgguy
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Quote:
Originally Posted by Huntn View Post
Not to sound like a broken record, but my understanding is that the Romney Campaign wants to cut 11 billion in military benefits, while cutting 4 trillion in the 1%ers taxes. Keep in perspective the huge number of damaged citizens who have come home from Wars over the last 11 years. How do we explain that away?
I believe he's said that he is going to make up for much of the tax cuts by closing tax loopholes. Not clear which ones would be closed, but that is the plan. One obvious area to close would be to take away tax credits for those who don't pay any income taxes.
mgguy is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Sep 7, 2012, 08:09 PM   #110
Huntn
Thread Starter
macrumors 604
 
Huntn's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: The Misty Mountains
Quote:
Originally Posted by mgguy View Post
I believe he's said that he is going to make up for much of the tax cuts by closing tax loopholes. Not clear which ones would be closed, but that is the plan. One obvious area to close would be to take away tax credits for those who don't pay any income taxes.
I agree that if you don't pay federal income taxes you should not be receiving federal tax credits. It makes sense. I also agree that the tax system needs to be revamped. However I don't agree that millionaires/billionairs should be paying a smaller percentage. It should be higher. As those who enjoy the most comfort, they can afford to pay a higher percentage of their income.
__________________
The modern business ethos: "I'm worth it, you're not, and I'm a glutton!"
MBP, 2.2 GHz intel i7, Radeon HD 6750M, Bootcamp: W7.
PC: i5 4670k, 8GB RAM, Asus GTX670 (2GB VRAM), W7.
Huntn is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Sep 8, 2012, 12:12 AM   #111
Coleman2010
macrumors 68000
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: NYC
Quote:
Originally Posted by Huntn View Post
As those who enjoy the most comfort, they can afford to pay a higher percentage of their income.
Socialist! Since they are "rich job creators" they shouldn't have to pay any taxes at all! They worked hard to become rich and accumulate millions! They donate insane amounts of money to the republican party so they pass legislation that allows them to accumulate even more wealth. How dare you interfere!
Coleman2010 is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Sep 8, 2012, 12:19 AM   #112
Rodimus Prime
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Quote:
Originally Posted by mgguy View Post
I believe he's said that he is going to make up for much of the tax cuts by closing tax loopholes. Not clear which ones would be closed, but that is the plan. One obvious area to close would be to take away tax credits for those who don't pay any income taxes.
Reagon said the exact same thing. It is now nearly 30 years later as we are still waiting on that promise to be kept.
Also even in best case on Romney's plan the middle class take the brunt and have a tax increase the upper 1% gets a tax cut.
Rodimus Prime is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Sep 8, 2012, 12:50 AM   #113
Zombie Acorn
macrumors 65816
 
Zombie Acorn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coleman2010 View Post
Socialist! Since they are "rich job creators" they shouldn't have to pay any taxes at all! They worked hard to become rich and accumulate millions! They donate insane amounts of money to the republican party so they pass legislation that allows them to accumulate even more wealth. How dare you interfere!
Considering Romney probably paid more in taxes in one year than most of this discussion board combined, i think its fair to ask how much can you expect one person to pay in?
__________________
--2.6 C2Q 4gb DDR3 GTX 260-Win 7--
--2.0 CE Macbook Alum-Leopard--
Zombie Acorn is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Sep 8, 2012, 06:42 AM   #114
rdowns
macrumors Penryn
 
rdowns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Quote:
Originally Posted by mgguy View Post
I believe he's said that he is going to make up for much of the tax cuts by closing tax loopholes. Not clear which ones would be closed, but that is the plan. One obvious area to close would be to take away tax credits for those who don't pay any income taxes.

And that's exactly the point, he has refused to offer any specifics as to how he would accomplish this. The term mathematically impossible has been used in many stories about his plan.
__________________
If your religion is worth killing for, please start with yourself.
rdowns is offline   4 Reply With Quote
Old Sep 8, 2012, 06:43 AM   #115
Eraserhead
macrumors G4
 
Eraserhead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: UK
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zombie Acorn View Post
Considering Romney probably paid more in taxes in one year than most of this discussion board combined, i think its fair to ask how much can you expect one person to pay in?
Maybe we should have an income cap then.
__________________
If they have to tell you every day they are fair you can bet they arent, if they tell you they are balanced then you should know they are not - Don't Hurt me
Eraserhead is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Sep 8, 2012, 09:16 AM   #116
Huntn
Thread Starter
macrumors 604
 
Huntn's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: The Misty Mountains
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coleman2010 View Post
Socialist! Since they are "rich job creators" they shouldn't have to pay any taxes at all! They worked hard to become rich and accumulate millions! They donate insane amounts of money to the republican party so they pass legislation that allows them to accumulate even more wealth. How dare you interfere!
I am a philosophical socialist with caveats. Ya got me.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eraserhead View Post
Maybe we should have an income cap then.
On principle, absolutely.
__________________
The modern business ethos: "I'm worth it, you're not, and I'm a glutton!"
MBP, 2.2 GHz intel i7, Radeon HD 6750M, Bootcamp: W7.
PC: i5 4670k, 8GB RAM, Asus GTX670 (2GB VRAM), W7.
Huntn is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Sep 9, 2012, 11:55 AM   #117
Sydde
macrumors 68000
 
Sydde's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
On a lighter note, here is a testimonial from an avid Romney supporter:

Caution: coarse language

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy3S_uQOuCY
__________________
You got to be a spirit. You can't be no ghost.
Sydde is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Sep 9, 2012, 12:17 PM   #118
Alameda
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zombie Acorn View Post
Considering Romney probably paid more in taxes in one year than most of this discussion board combined, i think its fair to ask how much can you expect one person to pay in?
Since the amount of assets of Romney which the Department of Defense protects for Romney is vastly larger than the assets of mine being defended, then he should pay a larger sum.
Alameda is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Sep 12, 2012, 09:28 PM   #119
Huntn
Thread Starter
macrumors 604
 
Huntn's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: The Misty Mountains
Romney Trip an embarrassing Disaster- CNN

Mitt Romney's Position On Libya Christopher Steven's Death Full of Mistakes- Newsday.


The bare face of political/diplomatic incompetence.

Someday the GOP will figure out that putting up UNQUALIFIED CANDIDATES FOR PRESIDENT does not work. But Mitt made one person happy:

Rush Limbaugh.
__________________
The modern business ethos: "I'm worth it, you're not, and I'm a glutton!"
MBP, 2.2 GHz intel i7, Radeon HD 6750M, Bootcamp: W7.
PC: i5 4670k, 8GB RAM, Asus GTX670 (2GB VRAM), W7.
Huntn is offline   5 Reply With Quote
Old Sep 13, 2012, 12:01 AM   #120
BladesOfSteel
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by Huntn View Post

Someday the GOP will figure out that putting up UNQUALIFIED CANDIDATES FOR PRESIDENT does not work. But Mitt made one person happy:

Rush Limbaugh.
Worked for the Dems (see: Obama, B)
__________________
Let's just say I own a lot of apple products.
BladesOfSteel is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Sep 13, 2012, 03:52 AM   #121
MadeTheSwitch
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by BladesOfSteel View Post
Worked for the Dems (see: Obama, B)
Obama is more Presidential than anything the right has put up in the last 12 years. Is he perfect? No. No man is, which means no President ever has been either. But considering the crap he was handed and considering the obstacles put in his way, he's done a pretty damn good job. Better than any of the Republicans could have done and certainly better than anyone on this forum, myself included.
MadeTheSwitch is offline   2 Reply With Quote
Old Sep 13, 2012, 07:39 AM   #122
BladesOfSteel
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by MadeTheSwitch View Post
Obama is more Presidential than anything the right has put up in the last 12 years. Is he perfect? No. No man is, which means no President ever has been either. But considering the crap he was handed and considering the obstacles put in his way, he's done a pretty damn good job. Better than any of the Republicans could have done and certainly better than anyone on this forum, myself included.
1) To say that Obama is better than any Republican over the last 12 years... sounds great... but really, not that big of a compliment.

2) You didn't contend the actual point that Obama was green when he took the oath.

3) Obama has "done a pretty damn good job." How so?
__________________
Let's just say I own a lot of apple products.
BladesOfSteel is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Sep 13, 2012, 08:24 AM   #123
Huntn
Thread Starter
macrumors 604
 
Huntn's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: The Misty Mountains
Quote:
Originally Posted by BladesOfSteel View Post
1) To say that Obama is better than any Republican over the last 12 years... sounds great... but really, not that big of a compliment.

2) You didn't contend the actual point that Obama was green when he took the oath.

3) Obama has "done a pretty damn good job." How so?
He is Presidential (10x more presidential than Mittens) and competent whether you agree with his direction or not. Unfortunately he is the head of a disorganized and hostile group (called Congress).

Can you imagine how ineffective a C.O. of any military outfit would appear if half of his organization refused to follow orders? While members of Congress are not obliged to follow orders, it paints a very good picture of how one party can refuse to cooperate, refuse to do anything the President wants and then have the nerve to turn around and tell the public how ineffective he is? The GOP deserves at least half of the criticism. If I blame Obama it is for taking way to long, in fact the next election to get out there and hard sell his position directly to the voters. He should have been doing this for at least 2 years.
__________________
The modern business ethos: "I'm worth it, you're not, and I'm a glutton!"
MBP, 2.2 GHz intel i7, Radeon HD 6750M, Bootcamp: W7.
PC: i5 4670k, 8GB RAM, Asus GTX670 (2GB VRAM), W7.
Huntn is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Sep 13, 2012, 10:37 AM   #124
Coleman2010
macrumors 68000
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: NYC
Quote:
Originally Posted by Huntn View Post
Romney Trip an embarrassing Disaster- CNN

Mitt Romney's Position On Libya Christopher Steven's Death Full of Mistakes- Newsday.

Image
The bare face of political/diplomatic incompetence.

Someday the GOP will figure out that putting up UNQUALIFIED CANDIDATES FOR PRESIDENT does not work. But Mitt made one person happy:

Rush Limbaugh.
Romney is running a post truth campaign. The media is so caught up in staying balanced and not wanting to be called liberal they will not call him out for his lies. Instead of saying "Mitt Romney, that is not true!" They say "Some will argue this is what happened." So they seem fair and impartial.

True is not partisan. It's either the truth or not!
Coleman2010 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Sep 13, 2012, 10:48 AM   #125
rdowns
macrumors Penryn
 
rdowns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coleman2010 View Post
Romney is running a post truth campaign. The media is so caught up in staying balanced and not wanting to be called liberal they will not call him out for his lies. Instead of saying "Mitt Romney, that is not true!" They say "Some will argue this is what happened." So they seem fair and impartial.

True is not partisan. It's either the truth or not!
I agree. I thougth Bill Maher nailed it, balance over objectivity.



Quote:
HBO host and Obama donor Bill Maher has accused journalists like NBC's Tom Brokaw of encouraging the birther movement by failing to label it as racist.

In a blog post endorsing Chris Matthews' recent on-air attack against RNC chairman Reince Priebus during MSNBC's Morning Joe, Maher accused Brokaw and other reporters of stoking the coals of birtherism by championing "'balance' over objectivity," citing Brokaw's attempt to defend Mitt Romney's remark about his birth certificate as an "awkward joke."

"How did [birtherism] grow to the point where half of Republican primary voters believed it? It wasn’t just the silence of Republican leaders, it was the failure of people like Tom Brokaw to just dismiss it as racism from the beginning," Maher wrote.

"People like him are always championing 'balance' over objectivity," he continued. "They have to bring everything back to a discussion about how 'both sides' are guilty, instead of doing his job as a referee. If every single journalist just simply labeled birtherism what it obviously is — racism — the cancer wouldn't have infected half the party. Maybe 25% or so, but most would be like, 'Okay, this isn't socially respectable.'"

"Every journalist knows [birtherism] comes from a racist place, so why can't they all be as no-******** about it as Chris Matthews?" Maher wrote.
In his attack on Priebus during the Republican National Convention, Matthews accused Romney of playing the race card for referencing his birth certificate and airing welfare ads against President Obama. In an interview with POLITICO at the time, and in subsequent television appearances, Matthews charged Republicans with "dividing the country along racial lines."
__________________
If your religion is worth killing for, please start with yourself.
rdowns is offline   0 Reply With Quote


Reply
MacRumors Forums > Mac Community > Community Discussion > Politics, Religion, Social Issues

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Similar Threads
thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Mitt Romney has 'Romnesia' 184550 Politics, Religion, Social Issues 34 Oct 20, 2012 09:41 PM
G.W. Bush Is Now More Favorable Than Mitt Romney Prof. Politics, Religion, Social Issues 3 Sep 28, 2012 02:50 AM
Mitt Romney raising taxes? dscuber9000 Politics, Religion, Social Issues 33 Aug 6, 2012 01:54 PM
Hello Mr Leader. Mitt visits the Limeys Queso Politics, Religion, Social Issues 53 Jul 28, 2012 11:55 AM
Mitt Romney and all his money... JMB1911 Politics, Religion, Social Issues 99 Jul 12, 2012 01:36 PM

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:43 PM.

Mac Rumors | Mac | iPhone | iPhone Game Reviews | iPhone Apps

Mobile Version | Fixed | Fluid | Fluid HD
Copyright 2002-2013, MacRumors.com, LLC