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Old Jun 14, 2012, 02:14 PM   #1
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Red/Green tint on RMBP

Finally had a chance to see the RMBP in person and the screen is a stunner - deep blacks, crisp and great viewing angles.

I wanted to check the brightness uniformity so I pulled up a pure white screen and noticed that there was a pink hue in one corner and a green one in the other. I've seen the same thing on my Dell IPS which impacted color accuracy (I returned it and recieved another that was fine).

Is anyone else seeing any red/green tinting in the corners?
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Old Jun 14, 2012, 03:18 PM   #2
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Finally had a chance to see the RMBP in person and the screen is a stunner - deep blacks, crisp and great viewing angles.

I wanted to check the brightness uniformity so I pulled up a pure white screen and noticed that there was a pink hue in one corner and a green one in the other. I've seen the same thing on my Dell IPS which impacted color accuracy (I returned it and recieved another that was fine).

Is anyone else seeing any red/green tinting in the corners?
How does one check for this? Is it obvious or subtle? How did you pull up a pure white screen?
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Old Jun 14, 2012, 03:19 PM   #3
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I'm noticing a red tint on mine really bummed because I JUST bought it not even 2 hours ago. Even the Apple logo on the other side is tinted... Really don't want to have to send it in already. And I doubt any of the Apple stores could do anything about it considering they don't even have stock of the laptops.

The tint is actually more purple, but it's still there...
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Old Jun 14, 2012, 03:21 PM   #4
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It's the iPad 3 all over again lol I guess they are using the same screens. Damnit..
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Old Jun 14, 2012, 03:23 PM   #5
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Old Jun 14, 2012, 03:33 PM   #6
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The tint is actually more purple, but it's still there...
It's called "IPS glow", and not uncommon in IPS displays. Even Dells can have it. Two common ips glow colors are orange and purple. Google "ips glow" for more info.
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Old Jun 14, 2012, 03:39 PM   #7
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Old Jun 14, 2012, 03:42 PM   #8
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If you guys look at your iPhone with a dark picture and angle it just right, you'll see a pink glow.
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Old Jun 14, 2012, 03:52 PM   #9
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It's called "IPS glow", and not uncommon in IPS displays. Even Dells can have it. Two common ips glow colors are orange and purple. Google "ips glow" for more info.
While there is a small amount of truth to this, in our lab we have over 30 machines (ThinkPads) with absolutely NO Trace of IPS Glow.

And we've been using ThinkPad workstations with IPS displays for years and years.

The only exception, is one of our older German Engineers that has a glow on his nose from heavy drinking ...


(My R-MBP, is just fine, and believe me I inspected it very carefully)

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Apple postures like they are a premier maker of tech products, therefore:

If Apple doesn't want to have their computers inspected.

If they cannot live up to the quality or hype.

Then they should label them with a large sticker....

"This Product Is Subject To Quality Control Variables, And May Not Be Up To Specifications"

Purchase at your own risk. LOL
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Old Jun 14, 2012, 03:55 PM   #10
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How does one check for this? Is it obvious or subtle? How did you pull up a pure white screen?
I always google "iPad dead pixel test" and the first website has these little colored boxes (red, white, etc.) that you can save and then view in full-screen.

The pink was very obvious (top right corner) but the green less so.

When I dragged the system settings box to the upper-corner the grey would turn kind of purple.
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Old Jun 14, 2012, 03:56 PM   #11
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what begins?
You haven't been around much... have you?
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Old Jun 14, 2012, 03:59 PM   #12
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It's called "IPS glow", and not uncommon in IPS displays. Even Dells can have it. Two common ips glow colors are orange and purple. Google "ips glow" for more info.
IPS glow typically refers to off-angle brightness increases on black screens. My dell has IPS glow - when I move off-axis the blacks start turning to grey.

This was an actual red/green tint on a bright white screen that I was looking at dead-on.
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I'm trying to take a picture for you guys but it's just showing up as white in the iPhone viewfinder. The tint is definitely there though.
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Old Jun 14, 2012, 04:00 PM   #14
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I'm noticing a red tint on mine really bummed because I JUST bought it not even 2 hours ago. Even the Apple logo on the other side is tinted... Really don't want to have to send it in already. And I doubt any of the Apple stores could do anything about it considering they don't even have stock of the laptops.

The tint is actually more purple, but it's still there...
If it's a tint that covers the entire screen you might be able to correct it via calibration.

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I'm trying to take a picture for you guys but it's just showing up as white in the iPhone viewfinder. The tint is definitely there though.
So it's not just in the corner(s)?
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Old Jun 14, 2012, 04:08 PM   #15
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If it's a tint that covers the entire screen you might be able to correct it via calibration.

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So it's not just in the corner(s)?
No it isn't just the corners, it's the whole thing. It's VERY noticeable in the Apple logo on the lid.

I'm sure that I could fix it with calibration, but I would rather have one that just works like it should. After all, I didnt pay $2200 for a machine that doesn't work properly. I'm going to call an Apple store in a bit and see if they can do anything.
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Old Jun 14, 2012, 04:09 PM   #16
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Got my brand new MBPR today.

No green tint at all, but a very noticeable red-hue on an all-white background. Really disappointing.
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Old Jun 14, 2012, 04:11 PM   #17
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Oh no!

Sounds like my iPad 3 experiences. Sheer horror.
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Old Jun 14, 2012, 04:14 PM   #18
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The complaining about the screen. Every time there's a new release, there's immediately tons of people complaining about the various tints they see. It doesn't matter whether there truly is a problem or not, they just start coming out of the woodwork. I was wondering when the first one would pop up. Didn't take long...

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No it isn't just the corners, it's the whole thing. It's VERY noticeable in the Apple logo on the lid.

I'm sure that I could fix it with calibration, but I would rather have one that just works like it should. After all, I didnt pay $2200 for a machine that doesn't work properly. I'm going to call an Apple store in a bit and see if they can do anything.
People calibrate television sets so they see the colors they expect. Why is it too much to expect you to do the same with your computer? That's what calibration is for. It doesn't mean your computer is faulty.
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Old Jun 14, 2012, 04:17 PM   #19
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No it isn't just the corners, it's the whole thing. It's VERY noticeable in the Apple logo on the lid.

I'm sure that I could fix it with calibration, but I would rather have one that just works like it should. After all, I didnt pay $2200 for a machine that doesn't work properly. I'm going to call an Apple store in a bit and see if they can do anything.
Oh, the one I've seen was snow white in the middle but turned red towards corner.

At that price, you just have to swap it out as far as I'm concerned.
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Apple postures like they are a premier maker of tech products, therefore:
I've always found this to be silly. They make a lot of nice stuff, but it is trendy. I don't entirely trust them on displays. I've mentioned this in other threads, but with large desktop displays, some method of panel blocking is typically implemented to even out uniformity if it is a true uniformity issue. I don't know how they engineer things for viewing angles, but I don't typically experience such issues unless they're caused by diffused reflections. This display has a softer anti-glare coating. It lacks the sparkle issue. If I view it in complete darkness, it's quite uniform aside from the last 1/8" or so along parts of the border. Under typical lighting conditions, it reflects bits of color which can make the display appear a little uneven at times. With Apple they kind of make what they make. They aren't really trying to make broadcast or prepress quality displays or anything of that sort, which would involve consistency + additional features. Given my past experience with them, I anticipate some amount of sample variation. This doesn't mean I like it. I just expect it if I decide to buy anyway.
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People calibrate television sets so they see the colors they expect. Why is it too much to expect you to do the same with your computer? That's what calibration is for. It doesn't mean your computer is faulty.
Because you can't calibrate a non-uniformly colored display. Duh.
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People calibrate television sets so they see the colors they expect. Why is it too much to expect you to do the same with your computer? That's what calibration is for. It doesn't mean your computer is faulty.
No, it doesn't mean it's defective but some panels can't be properly color-corrected. I used to own a Envy with the Radiance display and it, too, had a pink hue throughout. Trying adjust RGB values did very little.

This might just be the way this panel is I suppose.
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People calibrate television sets so they see the colors they expect. Why is it too much to expect you to do the same with your computer? That's what calibration is for. It doesn't mean your computer is faulty.
This is a totally different situation... People don't just calibrate their computer screens. If I buy a laptop I shouldn't have to mess around with it to get proper colors. Normal people don't do that, they would bring the laptop in for repair/replacement if it wasn't showing coloring right. Just as I will.
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Because you can't calibrate a non-uniformly colored display. Duh.
But the one Jamesesesesess was talking about was uniformly colored. And he was the one complaining about not wanting to calibrate. So duh right back at ya
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