Macbook Air 2012 - LG vs Samsung LCD - Page 30

NutsNGum · Jan 29, 2013, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by nStyle

Not denying your claim, but all things the equal, technically, how could the text be any sharper? They are the same resolution screen. Just curious. Can you post pictures?

Realise this is an old post and I don't know if the lad has responded, but i noticed what he mentioned also. It appears on the LG panels almost as if there is some sort of gauze style effect on the screen that makes it more difficult to focus on text.

I've had 11" Airs with both the LG and Samsung panels, and switching straight from the LG to the Samsung screen side by side, at least for me, was like taking an eye bath in a glacial pool.

David58117 · Jan 29, 2013, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NutsNGum

Realise this is an old post and I don't know if the lad has responded, but i noticed what he mentioned also. It appears on the LG panels almost as if there is some sort of gauze style effect on the screen that makes it more difficult to focus on text.

I've had 11" Airs with both the LG and Samsung panels, and switching straight from the LG to the Samsung screen side by side, at least for me, was like taking an eye bath in a glacial pool.

Did you properly calibrate the LG screen?

The LG looked very washed out for me, until I downloaded one of the calibrated profiles released here and switched. HUGE difference..

NutsNGum · Jan 29, 2013, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by David58117

Did you properly calibrate the LG screen?

The LG looked very washed out for me, until I downloaded one of the calibrated profiles released here and switched. HUGE difference..

Indeed I did. The contrast was still not on the same level as the Samsung, even post-calibration.

Zoraka · Feb 4, 2013, 09:32 AM

Does anyone found/have a good profile for the LSN133BT01A02?

The Profiles for the LT screens (also samsung) don't really fit my screen.

bastisk8 · Feb 4, 2013, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoraka

Does anyone found/have a good profile for the LSN133BT01A02?

The Profiles for the LT screens (also samsung) don't really fit my screen.

Same here, I am also still looking for a good profile.

enzoHK · Feb 15, 2013, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Isamilis

Just curious. Is it possible, 2011 version Samsung is much better than 2012's one? Is this because of Samsung-Apple case?

Hi, just checking in. Finally managed to get a Samsung MBA (128Gig, i7) with LSN133BT01A02 today (apple store HK, IFC). Looks great, none of the yellowing issues as before with the LG, straight out of the box. Compared to my MBA 2011 (256, i7, LTH133BT01A03), it looks actually better, but very similar (color seems more differentiated, and overall seems a bit sharper, better gradients (ie in the menu bars)).

It could still use a tiny bit more contrast but it's far better-looking (in my opinion as well as the apple store employees) than the LG ones. I might fiddle with color profiles a bit but for now I'm back to being a happy camper

Now how do I convince my GF to take my old one and hand me the new one, lol...

For what it's worth, just my two cents. I guess graphics-related professionals will notice easily, regular users probably not so much. Side by side it's unmistakeable though and the previous corrections I had done with profiles managed to increase contrast, but burned out other areas and so on (tried a lot of them from here and anandtech).

I can only suspect apple might be using LG to handle excess orders, or Samsung is messing a little with apple via supply-chain-shenanigans.

Anyways, good luck!

troy14 · Mar 17, 2013, 07:49 PM

Pardon me if this has been answered - reading 30 pages on my LG screen isn't the funnest

but will the Apple store swap out a MBA if you are not happy with the LG screen, to get a Samsung?

B... · Mar 17, 2013, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by troy14

Pardon me if this has been answered - reading 30 pages on my LG screen isn't the funnest

but will the Apple store swap out a MBA if you are not happy with the LG screen, to get a Samsung?

No...you need to show there is a mechanical problem with the display. IE Image retention, viewable color innacuracies etc.

troy14 · Mar 17, 2013, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by B...

No...you need to show there is a mechanical problem with the display. IE Image retention, viewable color innacuracies etc.

Well, I happen to have a 2011 Macbook Air with Samsung LCD as well and the difference is quite noticeable. If I brought both in and presented my case, would that do it?

B... · Mar 17, 2013, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by troy14

Well, I happen to have a 2011 Macbook Air with Samsung LCD as well and the difference is quite noticeable. If I brought both in and presented my case, would that do it?

It all depends on the person you get. If you get a rule-stickler then no. But if you get someone who looks and sees the difference, they might come around. What are the differences?

bmt134 · Mar 18, 2013, 06:32 PM

Got a Samsung LCD on my Air and my friend's Air has an LG display. HUGE difference.

B... · Mar 18, 2013, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bmt134

Got a Samsung LCD on my Air and my friend's Air has an LG display. HUGE difference.

In terms of...

David58117 · Mar 27, 2013, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bmt134

Got a Samsung LCD on my Air and my friend's Air has an LG display. HUGE difference.

Is it properly calibrated? I had the LG on my air, I thought it was horrendous and washed out, then found a color profile online and it looked incredible afterwards.

If the problem is washed out, bad whites - search through the forums and find the custom profile. The LG is a good screen, it's just not optimized, and nothing beats the optimized profile released on here..

MBA13MBA13 · 04:31 PM

Background: I'm a particularly picky, neurotic person. Some time ago when someone at Apple annoyed me (long story) I called in to customer service and got them to give them the newest iTouch with the most memory for free as an apology and to keep me as a customer. I am the most annoying customer because any real or perceived imperfection will result in me returning your product and if you annoy me in any way I will also end up getting something for free.

Trip to store: So, somehow I stumbled upon this forum and found out that I had an LG screen with a Toshiba SDD. Okay, time for a trip to the Apple store! I am within my 14 days of purchase so this was going to be a breeze of a return (though mind you, had I not been I would have made it happen anyway). Before going to the store I looked at my screen and thought, "this looks really great, I can't wait to see what the Samsung looks like if this is 'dull' and everyone says the letters aren't crisp." I get to the store and the display screen looks amazing--of course this has to be a Samsung screen. I check and it IS a Samsung screen (Toshiba SDD though)! Time to pull out my computer and see the huge difference!

No difference. They looked the same. I compared the pink lotus background. I compared the cosmos background. I compared Word, I compared Notes. I compared every different type of file I could think of in every brightness level and in different types of ambient light and there wasn't a difference. I'm in my 20s and have 20/15 vision ("better" than 20/20) and will notice the most minute differences to the point that I drive others crazy but I couldn't say the Samsung display was better! I wasn't even trying to convince myself that my computer was fine, I was ready to return and get another one without issue, but there just wasn't a point.

So, does that mean Samsung isn't better than LG? Who knows. Maybe I have one of the "good" LG screens, maybe some of you who have labeled LG bad have gotten "bad" LG screens. Maybe Samsung is consistently good and LG is a mixed bag. I don't know. All I know is in my particular case there wasn't the slightest difference. So, if you're in doubt just take your laptop to the store, compare, decide what step to take--I'm keeping my perfect LG screen laptop.

Note: I used the display settings provided by OSXDaily.com. I tried the Samsung screen in other display options and it can easily be made to look flat, dull, etc.. If there's any issue it seems to be settings driven and not inherent quality by brand.

OldStevenick · Apr 18, 2013, 05:18 AM

My MBA has gotten even more yellow than it started. Samsung or LG, whatever, it's yellow.

yourtoys7 · Apr 23, 2013, 09:48 AM

Samsung lcd here,
Late 2012 11" Air.

student_trap · Apr 26, 2013, 04:07 AM

Just posted this in another thread, but thought it was useful here too...

Note it is a direct comparison between the three screens for 11" airs only

Quote:

So I went to the regent street apple store yesterday to check out the airs on display there, and after checking display models, found they had a LG, Samsung and (the other) screened airs all on display.

So I put them all in a line and here are my thoughts...

LG: Absolutely abysmal for contrast, so really not great for reading, also colour balance seemed to be slightly greenish, which I dislike. BUT the colour of the apps etc themselves were quite natural, and the screen was brighter.

Samsung: Fantastic for contrast, much easier to read from and just felt sharper all round. BUT it almost seemed to have too much contrast, so with the space desktop background, the screen seemed particularly dark. In addition, the screen seemed unnaturally warm, so that colours were overly yellow (as a photoshop user, it was like when you push contrast to a point where it is unnatural).

(other screen): Sorry but not sure of the manufaturer of this one, but it seemed to sit inbetween the other two. Basically a bit more contrast than the LG (enough to make a decent difference for reading), and a more natural, less dark appearance than the samsung. BUT it did seem to have a slight pink hue, again leading some sites (notably macrumors) to look a little odd.

Wildcard comparison...

I then took a look at the rmbp 13" and the screen was not only nice and contrasty but the olours were also natural.

Now I'm really confused!

netsped · Apr 28, 2013, 05:34 PM

I had my Macbook Air's screen replaced this past week because of a bright spot. It originally had the Samsung screen, which I considered quite good and after reading this thread I felt quite lucky, and now they replaced it with a LG screen.

To be honest, I couldn't tell until I did the Terminal thing. i couldn't believe that it was an LG and that it was also as good as the Samsung, but it was. Then I downloaded the Macrumors profile and now I even think that this screen is better than the Samsung it had originally.

I'm really happy with the quality of the screen, the colors seem more realistic. Text is as sharp as it was with the other one, the LG seems to have better whites and with the Macrumors profile the contrast seems better also.

The only thing that I noticed that would favor the Samsung screen is that the brightness was higher on it, I would keep it at -3 bars and now with the LG I have to keep it at full bars to see the same brightness. But at -3 bars the LG is perfectly usable, its just a matter of personal taste.

So, I don't think there's a big quality gap between the two screens. Sure, maybe someone else would notice things on the LG that I didn't noticed but again... personal taste. I'm happy with it, but I was also happy with the Samsung.

Apr 17, 2013, 03:58 PM	#739
MBA13MBA13 macrumors newbie Join Date: Apr 2013	My case: LG & Samsung the same Background: I'm a particularly picky, neurotic person. Some time ago when someone at Apple annoyed me (long story) I called in to customer service and got them to give them the newest iTouch with the most memory for free as an apology and to keep me as a customer. I am the most annoying customer because any real or perceived imperfection will result in me returning your product and if you annoy me in any way I will also end up getting something for free. Trip to store: So, somehow I stumbled upon this forum and found out that I had an LG screen with a Toshiba SDD. Okay, time for a trip to the Apple store! I am within my 14 days of purchase so this was going to be a breeze of a return (though mind you, had I not been I would have made it happen anyway). Before going to the store I looked at my screen and thought, "this looks really great, I can't wait to see what the Samsung looks like if this is 'dull' and everyone says the letters aren't crisp." I get to the store and the display screen looks amazing--of course this has to be a Samsung screen. I check and it IS a Samsung screen (Toshiba SDD though)! Time to pull out my computer and see the huge difference! No difference. They looked the same. I compared the pink lotus background. I compared the cosmos background. I compared Word, I compared Notes. I compared every different type of file I could think of in every brightness level and in different types of ambient light and there wasn't a difference. I'm in my 20s and have 20/15 vision ("better" than 20/20) and will notice the most minute differences to the point that I drive others crazy but I couldn't say the Samsung display was better! I wasn't even trying to convince myself that my computer was fine, I was ready to return and get another one without issue, but there just wasn't a point. So, does that mean Samsung isn't better than LG? Who knows. Maybe I have one of the "good" LG screens, maybe some of you who have labeled LG bad have gotten "bad" LG screens. Maybe Samsung is consistently good and LG is a mixed bag. I don't know. All I know is in my particular case there wasn't the slightest difference. So, if you're in doubt just take your laptop to the store, compare, decide what step to take--I'm keeping my perfect LG screen laptop. Note: I used the display settings provided by OSXDaily.com. I tried the Samsung screen in other display options and it can easily be made to look flat, dull, etc.. If there's any issue it seems to be settings driven and not inherent quality by brand. Last edited by MBA13MBA13; Apr 17, 2013 at 04:31 PM.
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yourtoys7 macrumors 6502 Join Date: Sep 2007	Samsung lcd here, Late 2012 11" Air. __________________ iPhone4S/ iPhone5, iTV (late 2012), MacBook Air 11" (late 2012)
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Feb 4, 2013, 09:32 AM	#729
Zoraka macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2011	Does anyone found/have a good profile for the LSN133BT01A02? The Profiles for the LT screens (also samsung) don't really fit my screen.
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Mar 17, 2013, 07:49 PM	#732
troy14 macrumors 6502 Join Date: Mar 2008	Pardon me if this has been answered - reading 30 pages on my LG screen isn't the funnest but will the Apple store swap out a MBA if you are not happy with the LG screen, to get a Samsung?
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Mar 18, 2013, 06:32 PM	#736
bmt134 macrumors regular Join Date: Dec 2012	Got a Samsung LCD on my Air and my friend's Air has an LG display. HUGE difference.
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Apr 18, 2013, 05:18 AM	#740
OldStevenick macrumors newbie Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Northeast US	My MBA has gotten even more yellow than it started. Samsung or LG, whatever, it's yellow.
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Apr 28, 2013, 05:34 PM	#743
netsped macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2008	I had my Macbook Air's screen replaced this past week because of a bright spot. It originally had the Samsung screen, which I considered quite good and after reading this thread I felt quite lucky, and now they replaced it with a LG screen. To be honest, I couldn't tell until I did the Terminal thing. i couldn't believe that it was an LG and that it was also as good as the Samsung, but it was. Then I downloaded the Macrumors profile and now I even think that this screen is better than the Samsung it had originally. I'm really happy with the quality of the screen, the colors seem more realistic. Text is as sharp as it was with the other one, the LG seems to have better whites and with the Macrumors profile the contrast seems better also. The only thing that I noticed that would favor the Samsung screen is that the brightness was higher on it, I would keep it at -3 bars and now with the LG I have to keep it at full bars to see the same brightness. But at -3 bars the LG is perfectly usable, its just a matter of personal taste. So, I don't think there's a big quality gap between the two screens. Sure, maybe someone else would notice things on the LG that I didn't noticed but again... personal taste. I'm happy with it, but I was also happy with the Samsung.
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