New iBook and Mac mini Part Numbers?

MacRumors · 05:54 PM

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ThinkSecret follows-up their previous claim about impending iBook updates with details on part numbers that are showing up in Apple's databases.

The new iBook part numbers show models priced at $999 and $1,299, with an absence of the $1,499 model price-point.

Meanwhile, three new Mac mini configurations are also listed - priced at $499, $599, and $699. As noted by ThinkSecret, Apple does not presently offer a $699 Mac mini model.

According to the rumor site, "new systems could be announced early next week".

jmsait19 · Jul 21, 2005, 05:54 PM

with the ibooks possibly getting widescreen, and the mini's getting a bump...

how obsolete are the powerbooks gonna be?

why get a widescreen powerbook when the ibooks are just as good for a few hundred cheaper...

Frozone · Jul 21, 2005, 05:56 PM

Woo! I'll be shopping for an iBook next month sometime so this update is coming at just the right time! :-) Here's to hoping the rumors are right!!

berkleeboy210 · Jul 21, 2005, 05:57 PM

Bring em on, Will have Credit Card Ready to purchase the $699 Mac Mini

grapes911 · Jul 21, 2005, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmsait19

with the ibooks possibly getting widescreen, and the mini's getting a bump...

how obsolete are the powerbooks gonna be?

why get a widescreen powerbook when the ibooks are just as good for a few hundred cheaper...

Exactly. Thats why I don't believe that they will release a widescreen iBook. At least not until after they get a 12-inch widescreen powerbook.

anthonymoody · Jul 21, 2005, 05:58 PM

Well, since the ship times are all either 5-7 days or 7-10 days (once you configure something and hit Update in the Apple Store) I'd say it's pretty likely these things are coming!

TM

rickvanr · Jul 21, 2005, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmsait19

with the ibooks possibly getting widescreen, and the mini's getting a bump...

how obsolete are the powerbooks gonna be?

why get a widescreen powerbook when the ibooks are just as good for a few hundred cheaper...

Oh, I don't know. Maybe for a faster processor/fsb, larger display, more pixels, slimmer & lighter case, DVI, FW800, Gigabit Ethernet, Scrolling trackpad, digital audio in/out, backlit keyboard and a whole slew of other features that the PB's have, and the iBook's do not.

The iBook's are great, but the Powerbook's are better.

U2Rules! · Jul 21, 2005, 06:02 PM

Please be next Tuesday....at the latest. Can't wait to see the specs on the $699 mini?

abrooks · Jul 21, 2005, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickvanr

Oh, I don't know. Maybe for a faster processor/fsb, larger display, more pixels, slimmer & lighter case, DVI, FW800, Gigabit Ethernet, Scrolling trackpad, digital audio in/out, backlit keyboard and a whole slew of other features that the PB's have, and the iBook's do not.

The iBook's are great, but the Powerbook's are better.

Its about time someone made this point, thank you.

inkswamp · Jul 21, 2005, 06:04 PM

Seems likely that the low-end iBook (the current $999 one) will simply disappear and the other two will drop down to fill in the void with perhaps some obvious upgrades (hard drive size, RAM, GPU hopefully, superdrive standard hopefully.) The lack of a $1499 model may simply be a way to maintain the buffer between the iBook and Powerbook lines, unless the Powerbooks are getting some minor bumps too.

Bibulous · Jul 21, 2005, 06:05 PM

New form 13" widescreen ibook, one size only
New mini package with bluetooth keyboard/mouse and airport included

mini will also get a speed bump to 1.5, and 512mb standard

bermanu · Jul 21, 2005, 06:06 PM

yes...you are right. But it is not a big deal...powerbook are already obsolete if you think how little they have been improved in the past months.

Josh396 · Jul 21, 2005, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by U2Rules!

Please be next Tuesday....at the latest. Can't wait to see the specs on the $699 mini?

I was thinking the same thing. My guess is that it will be 1.67 Ghz and a Superdrive with 512 MB of Ram. I think that would be a great value especially if they made it a 60 or 80 GB HD.

feakbeak · Jul 21, 2005, 06:10 PM

I'm very curious what the $699 Mac Mini will have. I'm guessing it's just like the $599 model with some extra BTO options thrown in. Here are what I think are possibilities in the order of likliness:

1. Additional RAM
2. AirPort and/or BT built-in
3. Super Drive
4. Larger/faster hard drive
5. Upgraded GPU

About the iBooks updates I honestly don't think the Powerbooks should hold the iBook line down. These are two different lines of notebooks. Typically, the Powerbooks have faster/better processors, system bus, GPU, screens and additional technologies that the iBooks don't. Still why must there be some rule that the iBooks can never have anything better than the Powerbooks? That's not rational. Two different lines of notebooks, different designs, different target markets, etc. Apple should develop both of these lines and make reasonable enhancments and add technologies that are appropriate for that product line and price it appropriately. If you think the iBooks are better than the Powerbooks, buy an iBook. If you think the Powerbooks aren't that much better than the iBooks for the money, don't buy a Powerbook. It really is that simple.

macdesire · Jul 21, 2005, 06:23 PM

Like last time: a couple of weeks before the revisions, the products come off the shelves in Japan (ebuying shelves). This has happened again with the ibook and mac mini, they are now not available to buy online at the major retailers (e.g. yodobashi.com) - which indicates that thinksecret.com is right again!!

bermanu · Jul 21, 2005, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickvanr

Oh, I don't know. Maybe for a faster processor/fsb, larger display, more pixels, slimmer & lighter case, DVI, FW800, Gigabit Ethernet, Scrolling trackpad, digital audio in/out, backlit keyboard and a whole slew of other features that the PB's have, and the iBook's do not.

The iBook's are great, but the Powerbook's are better.

...compare the ibook 12 with the powerbook 12....are they so
different?
no larger display, no more pixels, mini dvi, no FW800, no gigabit ethernet,
no digital audio in/out, no backlit keyboard....

mac_fiend · Jul 21, 2005, 06:29 PM

I'll be most interested to see what road Apple goes down with the screen size for the iBook. 13.3" widescreen would be nice but I wonder where that will leave the 12" PowerBook.
Hopefully the Mac Mini will get updated video card to support CoreImage.

MikeLord · Jul 21, 2005, 06:33 PM

What I'd really like to see in an updated Mac Mini is a couple more USB ports and a Line In/Mic In.

Of course, I sure wouldn't mind 1.5GHz, 2 DIMM Slots, 512MB, BT, and APX standard.

--Mike

Stella · Jul 21, 2005, 06:37 PM

Hope these updated machines have better graphics card - i.e., ones that supported CoreImage to its full.

If these prices are correct I really can't see iBooks getting a widescreen.

spacefreak4 · Jul 21, 2005, 06:37 PM

Well I was doubting anything, but this article changed my mind. I hope they put 512mb memory standard on the Mac mini line, but that is just my hope. One thing to consider, is that wasn't the initial hope of the Mac mini to be for switchers? I'm guessing most soon-to-be switchers (including myself) won't spend $699 on a Mac for their first one. However, I'm probably wrong... Let's hope for an update (finally!)

tsk · Jul 21, 2005, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inkswamp

Seems likely that the low-end iBook (the current $999 one) will simply disappear and the other two will drop down to fill in the void with perhaps some obvious upgrades (hard drive size, RAM, GPU hopefully, superdrive standard hopefully.) The lack of a $1499 model may simply be a way to maintain the buffer between the iBook and Powerbook lines, unless the Powerbooks are getting some minor bumps too.

Not a chance (no offense intended). There's no way the 12" model gets replaced by a 14" model. I can see the 12" getting replaced with some sort of 13" widescreen or something, but there's no way they bump the larger 14" models down (IMO) and get rid of the more portable unit.

keysersoze · Jul 21, 2005, 06:42 PM

More RAM standard and upgraded graphics card.

Processor bump need not apply.

MikeLord · Jul 21, 2005, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacefreak4

Well I was doubting anything, but this article changed my mind. I hope they put M memory standard on the Mac mini line, but that is just my hope. One thing to consider, is that wasn't the initial hope of the Mac mini to be for switchers? I'm guessing most soon-to-be switchers (including myself) won't spend $699 on a Mac for their first one. However, I'm probably wrong... Let's hope for an update (finally!)

Well, yes, but right now, I think a lot of current Mac users would like a new machine but are hesitant to invest BIG $$$ in a new machine (especially with an integrated display like the iMac G5) before the x86 machines are released. A slightly more powerful Mac Mini would certainly fill that gap well.

I had three Macs prior to the x86 announcement. I unloaded my iMac G5 and 12" iBook on eBay (at a profit, I might add) and standardized on my Mac Mini while in 'wait and see' mode.

--Mike

tsk · Jul 21, 2005, 06:45 PM

I'm sort of disappointed to see no price drop (on the low end). I didn't expect much, but maybe $50 or $100 would have been reasonable.

I wonder if instead of this, they are going to bundle more features in.

I'm certain the new models will have 512MB RAM standard, 64MB video and probably slightly larger HD's.

But I'd like to see maybe BT standard and faster HD's also. I guess I can hope.

iEric · Jul 21, 2005, 06:50 PM

WOW new iBooks. I'm for sure getting one now!...wait...Maybe not..I don't like the white -- too girly.

too bad they're not black (same material though)

Jul 21, 2005, 05:52 PM	#1
MacRumors macrumors bot Join Date: Apr 2001	New iBook and Mac mini Part Numbers? http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif ThinkSecret follows-up their previous claim about impending iBook updates with details on part numbers that are showing up in Apple's databases. The new iBook part numbers show models priced at $999 and $1,299, with an absence of the $1,499 model price-point. Meanwhile, three new Mac mini configurations are also listed - priced at $499, $599, and $699. As noted by ThinkSecret, Apple does not presently offer a $699 Mac mini model. According to the rumor site, "new systems could be announced early next week". Last edited by arn : Jul 21, 2005 at 05:54 PM.

Jul 21, 2005, 05:54 PM	#2
jmsait19 macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: MO	with the ibooks possibly getting widescreen, and the mini's getting a bump... how obsolete are the powerbooks gonna be? why get a widescreen powerbook when the ibooks are just as good for a few hundred cheaper... __________________ We have enough youth... How about a "Fountain of Smart"

Jul 21, 2005, 05:56 PM	#3
Frozone macrumors 6502 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia	Woo! I'll be shopping for an iBook next month sometime so this update is coming at just the right time! :-) Here's to hoping the rumors are right!! __________________ "Georgia on my Mind" MacBook • 2.0 GHz • White

Jul 21, 2005, 05:57 PM	#4
berkleeboy210 macrumors 65816 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts	Bring em on, Will have Credit Card Ready to purchase the $699 Mac Mini __________________ Mac: 13" MacBook Pro 2.2ghz Netbook: Dell Mini 10v Phone: Palm Pre Music: awaiting iPod Touch 3rd Gen

Jul 21, 2005, 06:10 PM	#14
feakbeak macrumors 6502a Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Michigan	I'm very curious what the $699 Mac Mini will have. I'm guessing it's just like the $599 model with some extra BTO options thrown in. Here are what I think are possibilities in the order of likliness: 1. Additional RAM 2. AirPort and/or BT built-in 3. Super Drive 4. Larger/faster hard drive 5. Upgraded GPU About the iBooks updates I honestly don't think the Powerbooks should hold the iBook line down. These are two different lines of notebooks. Typically, the Powerbooks have faster/better processors, system bus, GPU, screens and additional technologies that the iBooks don't. Still why must there be some rule that the iBooks can never have anything better than the Powerbooks? That's not rational. Two different lines of notebooks, different designs, different target markets, etc. Apple should develop both of these lines and make reasonable enhancments and add technologies that are appropriate for that product line and price it appropriately. If you think the iBooks are better than the Powerbooks, buy an iBook. If you think the Powerbooks aren't that much better than the iBooks for the money, don't buy a Powerbook. It really is that simple. __________________ ~ Athlon 3800+ X2 / 2 GB / ATI HD 4850 ~ 1.42 GHz G4 Mac mini / 1 GB / AE & BT / Super Drive ~ 8 GB iPhone

Jul 21, 2005, 05:58 PM	#6
anthonymoody macrumors 6502 Join Date: Aug 2002	Well, since the ship times are all either 5-7 days or 7-10 days (once you configure something and hit Update in the Apple Store) I'd say it's pretty likely these things are coming! TM

Jul 21, 2005, 06:02 PM	#8
U2Rules! macrumors member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Minnesota	Please be next Tuesday....at the latest. Can't wait to see the specs on the $699 mini?

Jul 21, 2005, 06:04 PM	#10
inkswamp macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jan 2003	Seems likely that the low-end iBook (the current $999 one) will simply disappear and the other two will drop down to fill in the void with perhaps some obvious upgrades (hard drive size, RAM, GPU hopefully, superdrive standard hopefully.) The lack of a $1499 model may simply be a way to maintain the buffer between the iBook and Powerbook lines, unless the Powerbooks are getting some minor bumps too.

Jul 21, 2005, 06:05 PM	#11
Bibulous Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005	New form 13" widescreen ibook, one size only New mini package with bluetooth keyboard/mouse and airport included mini will also get a speed bump to 1.5, and 512mb standard

Jul 21, 2005, 06:06 PM	#12
bermanu macrumors newbie Join Date: May 2005 Location: New York	yes...you are right. But it is not a big deal...powerbook are already obsolete if you think how little they have been improved in the past months.

Jul 21, 2005, 06:23 PM	#15
macdesire macrumors member Join Date: Apr 2005	Japan Like last time: a couple of weeks before the revisions, the products come off the shelves in Japan (ebuying shelves). This has happened again with the ibook and mac mini, they are now not available to buy online at the major retailers (e.g. yodobashi.com) - which indicates that thinksecret.com is right again!!

Jul 21, 2005, 06:29 PM	#17
mac_fiend macrumors newbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Zealand	I'll be most interested to see what road Apple goes down with the screen size for the iBook. 13.3" widescreen would be nice but I wonder where that will leave the 12" PowerBook. Hopefully the Mac Mini will get updated video card to support CoreImage.

Jul 21, 2005, 06:33 PM	#18
MikeLord macrumors member Join Date: Apr 2004	What I'd really like to see in an updated Mac Mini is a couple more USB ports and a Line In/Mic In. Of course, I sure wouldn't mind 1.5GHz, 2 DIMM Slots, 512MB, BT, and APX standard. --Mike

Jul 21, 2005, 06:37 PM	#19
Stella macrumors 68040 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada	Hope these updated machines have better graphics card - i.e., ones that supported CoreImage to its full. If these prices are correct I really can't see iBooks getting a widescreen. __________________ iPhone: The cell phone for communists and censorship

Jul 21, 2005, 06:37 PM	#20
spacefreak4 macrumors member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Virginia	Well I was doubting anything, but this article changed my mind. I hope they put 512mb memory standard on the Mac mini line, but that is just my hope. One thing to consider, is that wasn't the initial hope of the Mac mini to be for switchers? I'm guessing most soon-to-be switchers (including myself) won't spend $699 on a Mac for their first one. However, I'm probably wrong... Let's hope for an update (finally!) __________________ I have: iPod 4G 20GB (b&w screen); Mac Mini Rev B// It rocks.

Jul 21, 2005, 06:42 PM	#22
keysersoze macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jan 2004	More RAM standard and upgraded graphics card. Processor bump need not apply. __________________ i love brits

Jul 21, 2005, 06:45 PM	#24
tsk macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wisconsin	I'm sort of disappointed to see no price drop (on the low end). I didn't expect much, but maybe $50 or $100 would have been reasonable. I wonder if instead of this, they are going to bundle more features in. I'm certain the new models will have 512MB RAM standard, 64MB video and probably slightly larger HD's. But I'd like to see maybe BT standard and faster HD's also. I guess I can hope.

Jul 21, 2005, 06:50 PM	#25
iEric macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada	WOW new iBooks. I'm for sure getting one now!...wait...Maybe not..I don't like the white -- too girly. too bad they're not black (same material though) __________________ 20" iMac G5 2.0 Ghz, 15" MPB 2.0 Ghz, 8GB iPod nano

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