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Old Jun 28, 2012, 01:08 PM   #51
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iOS Chrome requires iOS 4.3, while Android Chrome requires Android 4.0. Ironically that means that 99% of the iOS users can use Chrome, while only 10% of the Android users can.
Yes. But in a year that won't matter at all because people update their phones every 1-2 years typically and if they're buying a new phone, it will have ICS o Jellybean.

Meanwhile, Android users will still "enjoy" a fuller-functioning version of Chrome vs Apple's version which will be restricted in several ways.
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Old Jun 28, 2012, 01:09 PM   #52
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Apple, give us the choice!

Competition leads to better browsers.
Recall when Steve got up there and said "we believe in choice" in regard to browsers with the whole IE deal...now they lock us in with no way to switch default browsers? Hm.
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Old Jun 28, 2012, 01:11 PM   #53
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i like Safari too, but Chrome can run sandboxed C++ apps. This opens up a lot of options on browser based apps for business and gaming.

Don't know if the iOS version will be able to handle that tho since it is gonna be a "webkit based" engine.
Chrome on OS X/Linux/Windows also uses Webkit. What you're talking about is NaCL. It requires an outside plug-in, something you won't ever see on iOS unfortunately.

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No it doesn't The stock ICS browser on my nexus blows away the ios browser in sunspider, even the ios 6 one, and chrome for android kills it even more.
But Chrome for iOS won't beat Safari Mobile, because it won't be able to use Nitro.

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Recall when Steve got up there and said "we believe in choice" in regard to browsers with the whole IE deal...now they lock us in with no way to switch default browsers? Hm.
Steve believed in choices that lined Apple's pockets with money. He doesn't believe in choices that don't.
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Old Jun 28, 2012, 01:11 PM   #54
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Well, incognito mode, syncing your tabs (a feature coming "soon" to Safari), you know, the stuff listed in the first post ?
Yeah..but there's private browsing on mobile safari. and tabs will get the icloud treatment
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Old Jun 28, 2012, 01:13 PM   #55
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This is essentially gonna be safari with a chrome tab interface. The engine is pretty much identical to safari. Its not like the android version that blows the lid off in speed of every other mobile browser.
Actually Apple forked webkit and did some big changes specific to mobile safari. You'll probably find Chrome (which always tends to run a much newer version of Webkit than Safari) will have a few differences.

Also dont forget that Chrome has tab sandboxing, safari does not. That in addition to a HUGE library of extensions.

This is good news. Chrome is the best browser on the desktop and will certainly add value to iOS.

At this point I really do have to question why Apple are still not allowing free choice. It'll come down to a lawsuit, forcing them to allow the user to choose their default mail client and browser.
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Old Jun 28, 2012, 01:13 PM   #56
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Yeah..but there's private browsing on mobile safari. and tabs will get the icloud treatment
Exactly. So we're basically getting a slower version of Safari.
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Old Jun 28, 2012, 01:13 PM   #57
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Yeah..but there's private browsing on mobile safari. and tabs will get the icloud treatment
Except for people who don't have iCloud accounts and don't use Safari on OS X or Windows.
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Old Jun 28, 2012, 01:14 PM   #58
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Thank you. Can't wait to switch now.....Ironically, among other features, Chrome handles displaying websites on high-resolution screens better than does Safari and I prefer one browser across all of my devices.

The default browser thing is annoying but I can deal with it.
Same here. So excited.
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Old Jun 28, 2012, 01:14 PM   #59
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google drive is now live in the app store.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/googl...507874739?mt=8
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Old Jun 28, 2012, 01:14 PM   #60
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Also dont forget that Chrome has tab sandboxing, safari does not. That in addition to a HUGE library of extensions.
For mobile?
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Old Jun 28, 2012, 01:15 PM   #61
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Actually Apple forked webkit and did some big changes specific to mobile safari. You'll probably find Chrome (which always tends to run a much newer version of Webkit than Safari) will have a few differences.

Also dont forget that Chrome has tab sandboxing, safari does not. That in addition to a HUGE library of extensions.

This is good news. Chrome is the best browser on the desktop and will certainly add value to iOS.

At this point I really do have to question why Apple are still not allowing free choice. It'll come down to a lawsuit, forcing them to allow the user to choose their default mail client and browser.
Yes I know chrome is different but apple isn't letting google use those changes.
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Old Jun 28, 2012, 01:16 PM   #62
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For mobile?
It does for Android :

http://support.google.com/chrome/bin...obile_security

From the keynote going on, there's not much meat :

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10:20 am: Here we go, news! Chrome is coming to the iPhone. Later today Chrome will roll out in the App Store. Rakowski demos features like closing tabs with a swipe and dragging tabs from side to side.

And Chrome is also coming out for the iPad, with tabs on top because there’s more space on the tablet.

He shows his credentials — in this case for the New York Times — are synced across devices, even though he’d never been to nytimes.com on that device before. Nice.

Also, Incognito works on iOS. Rakowski: “I hope you’ll find that using Incognito on a touch device is a great experience.” That gets a giggle.
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Old Jun 28, 2012, 01:17 PM   #63
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Will Chrome have ad-blocking as an option? This is the only thing I really miss in iOS Safari.
Given the huge extension library, yes. Chrome extensions outnumber safari extensions dramatically, and they are designed to work on all platforms so I see no reason why they wont work on iOS.

This is where chrome has a HUGE advantage over Safari - the extensions library.
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Old Jun 28, 2012, 01:17 PM   #64
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I'd love to see Chrome on iOS..
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Old Jun 28, 2012, 01:18 PM   #65
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why is this a big deal
What can chrome do that safari doesnt
Covertly report all your data back to Google, which they can later claim was a "mistake" the same way they did with the network-sniffing cars.
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Old Jun 28, 2012, 01:19 PM   #66
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What you're talking about is NaCL. It requires an outside plug-in, something you won't ever see on iOS unfortunately.
Yep thats it. And i agree, it will probably not make it to iOS (read until iOS merges with OSX).
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Old Jun 28, 2012, 01:19 PM   #67
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Well, incognito mode, syncing your tabs (a feature coming "soon" to Safari), you know, the stuff listed in the first post ?
Safari has Private Browsing mode already.
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Old Jun 28, 2012, 01:19 PM   #68
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Yes I know chrome is different but apple isn't letting google use those changes.
Could you point to where this was said for chrome? As I recall, when the rules on browsers was relaxed, every new browser ran a standard UIWebKit instance just because it was easier. Nobody has yet tried using a non-UIWebKit based browser on iOS. I cant imagine Chrome would be released if it has to use such a limited instance of the framework.
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Old Jun 28, 2012, 01:20 PM   #69
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Yikes. Poor Apple.

Google is taking over.
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Old Jun 28, 2012, 01:20 PM   #70
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For mobile?
No idea, we'll find out later today. Chrome is pretty consistant across all platforms - if it was significantly different it would be called something like 'Chrome Mobile' (a bit like Opera did) to differentiate the software.
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Old Jun 28, 2012, 01:21 PM   #71
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(read until iOS merges with OSX).
iOS and OS X never were split apart to being with.
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Old Jun 28, 2012, 01:21 PM   #72
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Covertly report all your data back to Google, which they can later claim was a "mistake" the same way they did with the network-sniffing cars.
Take the tinfoil hat off. It does no such thing.
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Old Jun 28, 2012, 01:22 PM   #73
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Except for people who don't have iCloud accounts and don't use Safari on OS X or Windows.
Aren't iCloud accounts free? Regarding your second point, the same problem happens if people don't use Chrome on their OS X or Windows, so really the only difference is the password syncing (hopefully Apple will add that soon) and the fact that there is no Safari/iCloud, so far as I know, for linux. +Extensions if those work.
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Old Jun 28, 2012, 01:23 PM   #74
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Could you point to where this was said for chrome? As I recall, when the rules on browsers was relaxed, every new browser ran a standard UIWebKit instance just because it was easier. Nobody has yet tried using a non-UIWebKit based browser on iOS. I cant imagine Chrome would be released if it has to use such a limited instance of the framework.
Nothing was said for Chrome. Look what I posted, that's all they said for now :

- Incognito mode
- synced credentials
- probably synced tabs
- available later today.
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I would like the option to set defaults (mail, browser, etc) and I wish apple would allow 3rd party browsers to make JavaScript speed improvements. Until then it's pointless for me to even download it.
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