Power Nap not present on rMBP

bibyfok · Jul 1, 2012

Hi guys,

I had a MacBook Air since 3 days ago, now that I have a rMBP I noticed that the power nap settings are NOT present:

With other computers you have to do the SMC update and then the option is available.
With the rMBP, there is no SMC update and the setting is not available.

http://cl.ly/3l2o0N1l2z2g3A261w0N

Can you guys confirm me this ?

rikbrown · Jul 1, 2012

I can confirm it's also not present for me on a rMBP.

throAU · Jul 1, 2012

I thought power nap was coming in Mountain Lion, for the RMBP and new Air?

bibyfok · Jul 1, 2012

throAU said:
I thought power nap was coming in Mountain Lion, for the RMBP and new Air?

Yep, they will probably introduce it in the GM as it is present for the Air's.

32KFJ · Jul 1, 2012

powernap only works with SSD's right?

so if I take out my HDD and put in a SSD into my macbook pro it should work...or am i wrong?

bushido · Jul 1, 2012

32KFJ said:
powernap only works with SSD's right?

so if I take out my HDD and put in a SSD into my macbook pro it should work...or am i wrong?

no it needs a firmware update for the IEE or whatever its called and its only for the brand new mba and rmbp

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they took the option of power nap out in the latest update, it was there before

throAU · Jul 1, 2012

32KFJ said:
powernap only works with SSD's right?

so if I take out my HDD and put in a SSD into my macbook pro it should work...or am i wrong?

It only works with 2012 MBA (as in, does not work in 2011 MBAs) and 2012 RMBP.

So no, i doubt if you replace your spinning disk with SSD that it will work in a regular MBP. I suspect there is additional chipset/firmware smarts to support it.

cmChimera · Jul 1, 2012

32KFJ said:
powernap only works with SSD's right?

so if I take out my HDD and put in a SSD into my macbook pro it should work...or am i wrong?

You're wrong. Only MBPr and 2012 MBA

Edit: Beat to the punch.

bibyfok · Jul 1, 2012

throAU said:
It only works with 2012 MBA (as in, does not work in 2011 MBAs) and 2012 RMBP.

So no, i doubt if you replace your spinning disk with SSD that it will work in a regular MBP. I suspect there is additional chipset/firmware smarts to support it.

Wrong: Worked on my Mid2011 MBA.

32KFJ · Jul 1, 2012

bibyfok said:
Wrong: Worked on my Mid2011 MBA.

so it works with older models too...

maybe there will be a way to activate the mode like the "trim"-function?

Howard Ellacott · Jul 1, 2012

32KFJ said:
so it works with older models too...

maybe there will be a way to activate the mode like the "trim"-function?

It works with MacBooks that have built in flash storage, not SSD or HDD. "Power Nap requires a Mac notebook with built-in flash storage. May require a firmware update." - from Apple themselves. It works with the older MacBook airs, from when they were refreshed with to have flash, and the retina MacBook Pros.

32KFJ · Jul 1, 2012

Howard Ellacott said:
It works with MacBooks that have built in flash storage, not SSD or HDD. "Power Nap requires a Mac notebook with built-in flash storage. May require a firmware update." - from Apple themselves. It works with the older MacBook airs, from when they were refreshed with to have flash, and the retina MacBook Pros.

i think flash storage and ssd may be the same thing...

but i may also be wrong

bibyfok · Jul 1, 2012

32KFJ said:
i think flash storage and ssd may be the same thing...

but i may also be wrong

It's the same BUT as Apple manufacture it's own SSD device, they can flash the firmware (add new functionality), which is not possible with traditional SSD

Howard Ellacott · Jul 1, 2012

32KFJ said:
i think flash storage and ssd may be the same thing...

but i may also be wrong

Flash storage is soldered directly into the laptop, but a SSD is removable. Flash takes up less space inside the machine. Technically they are the same thing, but Power Nap only works with macbooks that have Flash Storage built right in.

bibyfok · Jul 1, 2012

Howard Ellacott said:
Flash storage is soldered directly into the laptop, but a SSD is removable. Flash takes up less space inside the machine. Technically they are the same thing, but Power Nap only works with macbooks that have Flash Storage built right in.

Wrong: the chips are on a small board that can be swiped.
SSD means Solid State Drive = drive where chips are. The only difference is the format of the "drive".

Jamie0003 · Jul 1, 2012

Howard Ellacott said:
Flash storage is soldered directly into the laptop, but a SSD is removable. Flash takes up less space inside the machine. Technically they are the same thing, but Power Nap only works with macbooks that have Flash Storage built right in.

It really sucks, it basically makes most of the Macbook pro line unable to get this feature, and surely this is a features pro users would want, not MBA users?

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