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Old Jul 14, 2012, 04:27 AM   #1
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Backspace to go BACK a page in Safari gone?

So maybe this is one of the little things, but I can't find it. Backspace used to take me BACK a page in Safari, and now it doesn't do anything. Is there a way to restore the feature, or do I have to go BACK in time to 10.7 to get that feature back?

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Old Jul 14, 2012, 04:34 AM   #2
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Noticed that too. It is annoying, but I did notice a two finger swipe to the right takes me back.
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Old Jul 14, 2012, 04:36 AM   #3
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I have been using the two finger slide to the right on the trackpad of my MBP & magic mouse. I thought the page back via Backspace was just a Windows thing. But, I'll admit I'd never tried it on a Mac since my keyboards have a Delete key vs a Backspace key.
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Old Jul 14, 2012, 04:41 AM   #4
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The command is now Command-[. This harmonises with other apps, and you are less likely to press it by mistake.
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Old Jul 14, 2012, 04:45 AM   #5
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The command is now Command-[. This harmonises with other apps, and you are less likely to press it by mistake.
Do you mean that Command left arrow and Command right arrow don't work anymore? I hope they do as other browsers support those, and the same on Windows except with Alt left arrow and Alt right arrow. The wheel doesn't need reinventing.
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Old Jul 14, 2012, 05:10 AM   #6
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Command-Left and Command-Right do not page Forward and Back in Safari 6.

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The wheel doesn't need reinventing.
It's funny to hear that comment on an Apple forum. Not being afraid to change accepted standards is one of the things which makes Apple great! (Remember DVD-drives?)
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Old Jul 14, 2012, 05:16 AM   #7
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I have to agree with not fearing change, but I also have to ask "why" would you not change the way something is done, but also leave the old way...

I really hope someone comes up with a tweak. For those of us like me who prefer competitors mice (ie me with my Logitech on my iMac), and don't buy into the whole swipe hype (ie me on my MacBook Air), I WANT the backspace to take me back a page. If it did something new I could understand replacing the usage, but it doesn't do anything now, so to take away the functionality will further annoy people (me), and alienate people who switch and expect there to be some generally accepted practices in web browsing (on a PC web browser backspace goes BACK just like it has for years)
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Old Jul 14, 2012, 05:17 AM   #8
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Command-Left and Command-Right do not page Forward and Back in Safari 6.

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It's funny to hear that comment on an Apple forum. Not being afraid to change accepted standards is one of the things which makes Apple great! (Remember DVD-drives?)
How does using Command [ make sense when there is already an established cross platform and cross browser convention? How does that make Apple great exactly? it makes them look foolish to me.
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Old Jul 14, 2012, 05:17 AM   #9
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The command is now Command-[. This harmonises with other apps, and you are less likely to press it by mistake.
It's funny how often I use BACK in Safari. To have to press command - every time would be annoying as I'm so used to just pressing BACKspace.

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How does using Command [ make sense when there is already an established cross platform and cross browser convention? How does that make Apple great exactly? it makes them look foolish to me.
Couldn't agree more. This is the type of stuff that gave Apple a bad name years ago that cost them valuable marketshare. A browser experience should be (relatively) the same across platforms, and this type of thing makes someone who's never sat at a Mac confused, because "it's different from what I'm used to" ... and there's really no reason for it. I wonder if they had a meeting and said "Gosh, let's take away the functionality of the back button that's existed in every version of Mac OS X's browser since the beginning. Replace it with something? Naw, let's just take away the functionality" ... the level of thinking here just baffles me. I have to assume it's a mistake, and I hope someone comes up with a tweak or command line mod that'll restore the functionality. Aside from that, the changes to Safari are cool. I like the unified search bar, but at the same time that could be confusing for some as well. Search vs Select... it's an odd concept to combine. What if I don't want to google "google" but just go to google? LOL
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Old Jul 14, 2012, 05:20 AM   #10
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Command-Left and Command-Right do not page Forward and Back in Safari 6.
Yes it does, see here
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Old Jul 14, 2012, 05:22 AM   #11
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Yes it does, see here
Sweet, thanks for the clarification
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or you could, idk, press the back button on the browser window.

Just a small thought.
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Old Jul 14, 2012, 06:09 AM   #13
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I do not like them taking away features.

Activity Window gone - this was the ONLY unique feature Safari had over Chrome, Firefox and others.

Backspace back gone - it's a Windows standard which really helped switchers to adjust.
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Old Jul 14, 2012, 06:12 AM   #14
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You are right. It wasn't working for me on certain pages. It does still work in Safari 6.
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Old Jul 14, 2012, 06:16 AM   #15
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or you could, idk, press the back button on the browser window.

Just a small thought.
Why should I have to do that?
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Old Jul 14, 2012, 06:18 AM   #16
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Old Jul 14, 2012, 02:11 PM   #17
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Well, you're clicking things anyway.
Highly logical response... it's like saying if the US were to one day change the side of the road we drive on that it wouldn't be confusing because "people are driving anyway" ... zero logic.

Anyhow, if anyone figures out a way to bring back the backspace for previous page, let me know. I may note that BACKSPACE still takes you BACK in Firefox and Chrome and any other browser on Mac, its just Apple seemingly decided to omit the functionality from their new browser. I assume to further push people into using the above mentioned browsers?!?!?
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Old Jul 14, 2012, 02:19 PM   #18
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While I have never touched the delete button to go back since the 2 finger swipe was introduced, the fact is that Apple had no reason to remove that feature. So while this has no affect on me, I can understand why others would be annoyed because, unless the delete key was reassigned to another function, this is just another example of Apple removing stuff for the sake of removing stuff.
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Old Jul 14, 2012, 02:31 PM   #19
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While I have never touched the delete button to go back since the 2 finger swipe was introduced, the fact is that Apple had no reason to remove that feature. So while this has no affect on me, I can understand why others would be annoyed because, unless the delete key was reassigned to another function, this is just another example of Apple removing stuff for the sake of removing stuff.
As far as I can tell it hasn't been reassigned, just disabled. Yeah, not a big deal for swipe users, but I have a mouse (non apple) so it's a big deal for me. Especially when I'm using the keyboard without my hand on the mouse.
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Old Jul 14, 2012, 02:37 PM   #20
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I do not like them taking away features.

Activity Window gone - this was the ONLY unique feature Safari had over Chrome, Firefox and others.

Backspace back gone - it's a Windows standard which really helped switchers to adjust.
Seems like I won't be upgrading to ML...I use the delete button ALL the time to go back web pages.
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Old Jul 14, 2012, 02:39 PM   #21
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Seems like I won't be upgrading to ML...I use the delete button ALL the time to go back web pages.
Agreed. It's funny how a week ago if you'd asked me I'd say I never use it, but now that it's gone I realize I use it all the time.

Also, there is some funky scripting limitations in the new Safari. Several of the pages I use for work just won't load. I get a blank white screen, whereas in Firefox or Chrome they load just fine.
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Old Jul 14, 2012, 02:56 PM   #22
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Was this gone in all beta versions of 10.8? Maybe it's just an oversight.

I can kind of see the logic in removing it. Although it's now a standard across browsers and operating systems, it's a horrible keyboard shortcut. If you're typing in a text box, accidentally click out of it, then type delete/backspace -- poof! Everything is gone.
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Was this gone in all beta versions of 10.8? Maybe it's just an oversight.

I can kind of see the logic in removing it. Although it's now a standard across browsers and operating systems, it's a horrible keyboard shortcut. If you're typing in a text box, accidentally click out of it, then type delete/backspace -- poof! Everything is gone.
that's happened to me so many times. this is honestly, a welcome change.
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Was this gone in all beta versions of 10.8? Maybe it's just an oversight.

I can kind of see the logic in removing it. Although it's now a standard across browsers and operating systems, it's a horrible keyboard shortcut. If you're typing in a text box, accidentally click out of it, then type delete/backspace -- poof! Everything is gone.
Sorry but no, this accident rarely happens for the simple reason that, in most situations, the text typed into the box is kept if you immediately go back to the page concerned.

Removing this shortcut is absolutely ridiculous, unless Apple allows the user to configure it under keyboard shortcuts again.
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Old Jul 26, 2012, 04:42 AM   #25
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Hi guys,

I've actually registered in this forum just to post this reply, as I've been absolutely enraged by Apple for changing this feature. Like steve-p said, there's no sense in changing an established cross-plattform standard. In addition, the new cmd+[ shortcut is especially painful for international users such as myself who don't use an english keyboard layout (I actually need to two hands for this shortcut on a german keyboard).

tldr: I did some poking around and found a way to restore the old backspace shortcut. Here's how:

1.) Set an arbitrary shortcut for the command in the System Preferences
2.) Go to ~/Library/Preferences and open the com.apple.Safari.plist file
3.) Find the NSUserKeyEquivalents key.
4.) Replace the shortcut you had previously set by this one: "⌫"
5.) Profit!


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