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Old Jul 16, 2012, 11:49 PM   #101
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July 20, 2013 can't get here fast enough. With LTE far better than AT&T's in my area, and with all of these stupid charges, I'm ready to go to Verizon. I'm not saying that Verizon doesn't institute outrageous fees as well (remember the "convenience fee" fiasco?), but I'm fed up with AT&T's greed.
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Old Jul 16, 2012, 11:54 PM   #102
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It only seems that way because angry customers are more vocal. I can say for certain that the new Share Everything plans actually are saving more people money than it is costing more. Seriously, by a lot.

Really, the only ones it's costing more for is families who have more basic phones than smart phones. But that scenario is becoming incredibly rare now and those customers are allowed to keep their old plans anyway. I have customers who are saving upwards of $180 a month. Plus gaining the comfort of not having to count minutes or texts, and being able to share a large bucket of data however they want.
Even the 1GB Share Everything would cost us more money. We have two iPhones and rarely use more than 500GB of data a month, we use less than 200 minutes per month and the only text messages are the spam ones we get against our will so the Share Everything Plan would cost us an extra $30/month
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Old Jul 16, 2012, 11:55 PM   #103
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Are there any third-party video chat apps for iOS yet? If so, do they work over 3G?
Yes, "Tango" works. It also allows video calls to Android phones. (if they have video chat capability)

This is so ridiculous. As soon as the next iPhone is out, I'm dumping AT&T for Verizon. As a bonus, I'll even get decent coverage outside of the city!
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Old Jul 16, 2012, 11:56 PM   #104
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JB and done ... FU AT&T
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Old Jul 16, 2012, 11:58 PM   #105
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Even the 1GB Share Everything would cost us more money. We have two iPhones and rarely use more than 500GB of data a month, we use less than 200 minutes per month and the only text messages are the spam ones we get against our will so the Share Everything Plan would cost us an extra $30/month
Which plan are you on now?
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Old Jul 17, 2012, 12:00 AM   #106
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Ohh AT&T, you penny pincher youuu.
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Old Jul 17, 2012, 12:02 AM   #107
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I have no problem facetiming on 3G with iOS 6.0 beta 3. I do subscribe to the 5 GB hotspot plan though.
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Old Jul 17, 2012, 12:08 AM   #108
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Are there any third-party video chat apps for iOS yet? If so, do they work over 3G?

yes there are many, here just to name a few

tango, oovoo, skype, yahoo messager,.... ect.

all of them work wifi/3G/4G/LTE
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Old Jul 17, 2012, 12:13 AM   #109
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Which plan are you on now?
We have 700 shared minutes, no text plan and 300MB data per month on each phone
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Old Jul 17, 2012, 12:15 AM   #110
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If anyone from Rogers in Canada is reading this and thinking about pulling a similar stunt, please hold my ****.
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Old Jul 17, 2012, 12:20 AM   #111
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Ok ... this is ridiculous if they won't let us use FaceTime.

Seriously, it's bad enough I have to pay extra to tether (mind you I pay for the data in the first place... so wtf).... but to pay extra to use the data for FaceTime, too? They're going to need to bundle it with tethering at the same price you're already paying or something.

Either that or people will find a way to use it unrestricted (ie. FaceTime via. computer on your tethered network..? kinda gets around them....sorta).
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Old Jul 17, 2012, 12:22 AM   #112
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I hope AT&T sees this!

I will switch too it this is true!

Just tested and mine works.

Maybe once I toggle it off and on it won't.
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Old Jul 17, 2012, 12:22 AM   #113
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Seriously, how are we not going to be able to use the data WE pay for the way we want to use it?

Gosh, what ever happened to freedom in this country.
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Old Jul 17, 2012, 12:24 AM   #114
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Mine works...
???
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Old Jul 17, 2012, 12:27 AM   #115
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Awesome. Just like tethering, AT&T wants to TRIPLE bill for the same data!

1) Charge for the data.
2) Charge to actually use the data (tethering, FaceTime, etc).
3) Charge "overage fee" for using data.
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Old Jul 17, 2012, 12:29 AM   #116
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thats wrong

i have ios 6 and AT&T and it ON so whoever came up with this thing is just trying to make something outta nothing
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Old Jul 17, 2012, 12:33 AM   #117
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Apple bought out T-Mo?
...and call it iMobile

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Old Jul 17, 2012, 12:36 AM   #118
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look at the link to prove that its not right

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...&type=1&ref=nf
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Old Jul 17, 2012, 12:39 AM   #119
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AT&T vs. Apple

Plain and simple AT&T hates Apple.

AT&T does not like iOS devices or Users. They want to make the iOS experience the worst it can possibly be, so iOS users will migrate off the network.

There is no other explanation.

This is not the first time AT&T has been at war with a vendor, have you notice how few Motorola phones are on AT&T, after the Razr exclusivity they fell out too. Seriously, most stores don't even have active iPhone and iPad on display, just some cardboard cut out.

The problem is the iPhone/iOS money pot is so big they can't truly say goodbye. This is just a bad romance, and the users are the children caught up in the (separation) divorce.

If Adele was an american she would be singing about AT&T instead of that guy. Apple isn't helping either - constantly changing the SIM design with each major release.
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Old Jul 17, 2012, 12:40 AM   #120
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That said, it's not like any American mobile operator runs a decent network. Even a country like Sweden -- which has a very similar population density to the USA -- has way better cellular service.

Let's not even begin to discuss countries like Japan or South Korea...
Sweden is also about the same size as California. It's the infrastructure, not the amount of people. AT&T has to manage and install hardware/infrastructure for the entire USA. I'm not defending them, but yours is not a valid comparison.
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Old Jul 17, 2012, 12:40 AM   #121
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Typical

I wouldn't expect anything less from AT&T. I was using MyFi when I had my old iPhone jailbroken to tether to my iPad while I was out and about till AT&T put the kabash on that trying to double charge me for the data that I was already paying for.

Now as expected, whether rumor or not, I wouldn't put it past these money hungry crooks to try and stuff a little more cash in their pockets at our expense. Now is the time to stand up to these corporate *******s and speak our minds. I'm seriously thinking about another carrier because of all of AT&T's data games.

They can try and double charge us for things we are already paying for and the have us in the full nelson making us say uncle. It would be so much nicer if we were the ones making the demands. Here's one, I only used 154 of my 900 monthly minutes, how about a pro-rated bill or credit for the 746 minutes that I did not use? Yeah, as good as that sounds in theory, you would never see that happening.

I can dream can't I?
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Old Jul 17, 2012, 12:42 AM   #122
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For all those saying it still works - pls read:

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try resetting network settings
http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost...&postcount=310

if you don't mind losing the ability.

arn
You might still have functionality with beta 3 (facetime over 3g/4g), but as soon as your network settings reset, you will NOT.
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Old Jul 17, 2012, 12:44 AM   #123
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Unfortunately the chances of getting out of a contract because of this would be slim to none. You aren't being forced to use FaceTime over 3G, you can simply just use it over wifi. So, any extra charge to use it over 3G would be considered optional which probably wouldn't get you out of a contract. Though there is always a loophole.
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Old Jul 17, 2012, 12:46 AM   #124
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I'm on O2 and done a 3G FaceTime call last night.
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Old Jul 17, 2012, 12:51 AM   #125
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Ranking the world's most disgraceful companies:

1. BP
2. Wal-Mart
3. AT&T

I agree with your thinking, but Monsanto is still #1, killing for profit does top charging for FaceTime over cellular..
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