Apple's Removes Mentions of Safari for Windows, But Version 5.1.7 Still Available For Now [Updated] - Page 3

KnightWRX · Jul 25, 2012, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mono1980

But Chrome and Safari don't render everything EXACTLY the same. They use different forks of webkit as far as I know.

Chrome and Safari use the same webkit project, not different forks. However, they use different Javascript engines (Google has their own) and Chrome is usually faster than Safari in shipping newer Webkit versions by virtue of their speedier release schedule for new versions.

Kris404 · Jul 25, 2012, 12:09 PM

I use it for iCloud bookmarks, have to go back to Chrome again - on both platforms

lilo777 · Jul 25, 2012, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Consultant

I like Safari for Windows. Works great in bootcamp.

Hopefully it will be updated.

You are probably the last user left of Safari for Windows. It will not be updated.

astrorider · Jul 25, 2012, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KnightWRX

The Windows HIG is for Windows developers. The OS X HIG is for Mac developers. And the font issue seems to be your own machine since we have a screenshot showing nothing wrong with Microsoft's PDF in Preview.

And no, I don't quite get your point... Don't follow the HIG of others but push people to follow yours... I don't get it.

Could be my own machine, or others have additional fonts that allow it to render. Either way, I didn't mean to strike a nerve.

Windows is, as it has always been, a shining light for human interface guidelines. How Apple could have stepped out of the bounds of the consistent interface that is Windows is anyone's guess.

jjrtiger · Jul 25, 2012, 12:16 PM

Apple brought Safari to Windows so that early iPhone devs could build web apps for the original iPhone before the App Store existed. Wouldn't be surprised if they stopped developing it.

Edgecrusherr · Jul 25, 2012, 12:19 PM

I was really disappointed when Apple made Safari for Windows "more Windows like". The Mac-likeness of it was it's shinning feature.

Nevzorus · Jul 25, 2012, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by charlituna

Why?

Easy. to make you have to buy a Mac if you want to use the latest Safari. It's an evil and diabolical trick that Steve and Tim learned from their true master.

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Hahaha, i don't have the money to buy a Mac right now.

Consultant · Jul 25, 2012, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MonkeySee....

I like it too. For some reason though it keeps crashing and windows shuts it down. I've even disabled all extensions.

Safari does not crash in XP, Vista, or W7 for me.

dona83 · Jul 25, 2012, 12:33 PM

I never really like Safari for Windows. It works much better in Mac OS X.

Lordskelic · Jul 25, 2012, 12:42 PM

Do people even use Safari for Windows?

iSee · Jul 25, 2012, 12:43 PM

Well...

There are probably about 5 people that will be depply crushed if (when) Apple drops support for Windows for Safari. I think the rest of us will quickly forget it ever existed (or more likely, never knew it existed in the first place).

Sensation · Jul 25, 2012, 12:43 PM

Safari is terrible

milo · Jul 25, 2012, 12:46 PM

Should we be surprised? It almost seems like they're gradually trying to move mac users off of Safari as well, removing features and dumping RSS support?

marcusj0015 · Jul 25, 2012, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KnightWRX

With Chrome providing a leading browser on Windows that uses Webkit and Apple's awful UI integration on Windows, is it any surprise the product never really took off ? Apple really pushes for developers to respect OS X's HIG, yet they completely fail to follow Microsoft's when porting their software to Windows.

I agree, but yet again, Microsoft even HAS interface guidelines? They epicly fail to follow them then.

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Originally Posted by dashiel

I would guess Apple released Safari for Windows in order to spur on adoption of advanced web technologies, Mozilla was moving too slowly with only IE as competition. With Chrome continuing to grab market share and WebKit browsers being utterly dominant in mobile it’s a case of “job done”.

Mozilla started the fight, WebKit (Safari) added fuel to the fire, Chrome basically forced Microsoft to make IE a great browser.

LMAO at IE being a "great browser" it's till incredibly slow, just as ugly on the inside, and buggy as ****. It's a Microsoft product, and no matter what Microsoft will never change. I hope Windows 8 kills them. I really ****ing do.

ArtOfWarfare · Jul 25, 2012, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hastings101

Probably because all the Windows Safari users switched to Chrome

Probably. Is there a way to Get Safari iCloud data on Windows? (Possibly through a chrome plugin?)

I've moved on to Chrome (on Windows) already... If Safari gets iCloud tab sync before Chrome, I'll consider going back to it.

slippyr4 · Jul 25, 2012, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Summersify

I guess Safari 6 was just too snappy for Windows machines to run...

Wishful thinking. On windows, chrome is a significantly better browser by almost every measure.

emvath · Jul 25, 2012, 12:57 PM

It's Firefox on Windows for me.

slippyr4 · Jul 25, 2012, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Edgecrusherr

I was really disappointed when Apple made Safari for Windows "more Windows like". The Mac-likeness of it was it's shinning feature.

Disagree entirely.

Any app should stick to the UI guidelines (yes, there are a lot of guidelines on windows before anyone trolls). It's what users expect. And it's the point of them.

If Microsoft launched a browser on OSX that was skinned like windows - even if it was really good - it would get panned by design any usability purists because it doesn't have a UI consistent with the rest of the OS.

Apple's insistence on making Safari (and iTunes) look like mac apps is a design mistake. It is a case of marketing over appropriate design.

marcusj0015 · Jul 25, 2012, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by emvath

It's Firefox on Windows for me.

You should RELLY try Chrome, it's SO much faster, and AFAIK has more extensions than failfox anyway.

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Originally Posted by slippyr4

Disagree entirely.

Any app should stick to the UI guidelines (yes, there are a lot of guidelines on windows before anyone trolls). It's what users expect. And it's the point of them.

If Microsoft launched a browser on OSX that was skinned like windows - even if it was really good - it would get panned by design any usability purists because it doesn't have a UI consistent with the rest of the OS.

Apple's insistence on making Safari (and iTunes) look like mac apps is a design mistake. It is a case of marketing over appropriate design.

And the sad thing is (Typing this from my POS faildows box I'm replacing with a retina mbp asap) is that it looks like absolute ****, and runs HORRIBLY.

DJJAZZYJET · Jul 25, 2012, 01:09 PM

Safari for mac, chrome for windows.

bdkennedy1 · Jul 25, 2012, 01:17 PM

Windows 8 is coming out in a few months. I'm sure they are not going to spend too many resources on Windows 7. Windows 8 is a new OS and Apple is probably waiting to see if it's going to crash and burn.

Microsoft should be worrying about iTunes for Windows 8.

ivladster · Jul 25, 2012, 01:19 PM

Well if Windows8 will not have such great support and current machines don't have much of a touch technologies available, then why have Safari on Windows at all. I think Apple realized it rather focus on other things than winning the Browser wars. Chrome and Firefox are doing a great job.

Apple Key · Jul 25, 2012, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by diamond.g

That would be a great experiment. Apple not release iTunes for Windows. At this point supposedly they don't even need Windows since you can set up iDevices OTA now.

I imagine it would be a problem for people to sync their content though. Even to sync over wifi, they would still need iTunes.

DavidLeblond · Jul 25, 2012, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Apple Key

I imagine it would be a problem for people to sync their content though. Even to sync over wifi, they would still need iTunes.

iCloud + iTunes Match = Sync wha?

KnightWRX · Jul 25, 2012, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by marcusj0015

I agree, but yet again, Microsoft even HAS interface guidelines?

Didn't read the rest of the thread did you ? You can even grab a copy off of MSDN.

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Lordskelic macrumors regular Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Texas	Do people even use Safari for Windows? __________________ All your Apple product are belong to us.
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iSee macrumors 68030 Join Date: Oct 2004	Well... There are probably about 5 people that will be depply crushed if (when) Apple drops support for Windows for Safari. I think the rest of us will quickly forget it ever existed (or more likely, never knew it existed in the first place). __________________ "Nobody ever reads these things so I can write anything. I'd eat bananas every day if they were crunchy."
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ivladster macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Washington DC	Well if Windows8 will not have such great support and current machines don't have much of a touch technologies available, then why have Safari on Windows at all. I think Apple realized it rather focus on other things than winning the Browser wars. Chrome and Firefox are doing a great job. __________________ Apple's iPhone had me at scrolling
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Kris404 macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA	I use it for iCloud bookmarks, have to go back to Chrome again - on both platforms
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Jul 25, 2012, 12:16 PM	#55
jjrtiger macrumors newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: baton rouge, la	Apple brought Safari to Windows so that early iPhone devs could build web apps for the original iPhone before the App Store existed. Wouldn't be surprised if they stopped developing it.
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Edgecrusherr macrumors newbie Join Date: Jan 2006	I was really disappointed when Apple made Safari for Windows "more Windows like". The Mac-likeness of it was it's shinning feature.
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Jul 25, 2012, 12:33 PM	#59
dona83 macrumors regular Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Coquitlam, BC	I never really like Safari for Windows. It works much better in Mac OS X.
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Sensation Banned Join Date: Apr 2012	Safari is terrible
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milo macrumors 603 Join Date: Sep 2003	Should we be surprised? It almost seems like they're gradually trying to move mac users off of Safari as well, removing features and dumping RSS support?
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emvath macrumors regular Join Date: Jan 2009	It's Firefox on Windows for me.
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Jul 25, 2012, 01:09 PM	#70
DJJAZZYJET macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2011	Safari for mac, chrome for windows.
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bdkennedy1 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Oct 2002	Windows 8 is coming out in a few months. I'm sure they are not going to spend too many resources on Windows 7. Windows 8 is a new OS and Apple is probably waiting to see if it's going to crash and burn. Microsoft should be worrying about iTunes for Windows 8.
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