10.2.2 is out through Software Update...

Classic · Nov 11, 2002, 05:11 PM

The 10.2.2 Update delivers enhanced functionality and improved reliability for the following applications and technologies: Address Book, iChat, IP Firewall, Mail, Print Center, Rendezvous, Sherlock and Windows file service discovery. The update also includes the updated services previously delivered in Security Update 2002-09-20.

For detailed information on this Update, please visit http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n107140

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I'm off to download. I'll post if there are any problems.....

Stelliform · Nov 11, 2002, 05:27 PM

Thanks for the heads up! It is 24.4 MB. 50% done on my computer.

Jays · Nov 11, 2002, 05:33 PM

no obvious changes at first glance...

no problem with installation what so ever

whfsdude · 05:40 PM

Worked fine on two computers. Didn't work on the on G4 imac downstairs, got an error

I am trying again now

Update: Worked on G4 iMac after I quit SW Update and relaunched

Chaszmyr · Nov 11, 2002, 05:41 PM

It isnt working.... When i click install it stays in the "Software Update" app, the window with the updates becomes unselected, and nothing starts downloading. If i select "Install Checked" from the menu bar the same thing happens.

edesignuk · Nov 11, 2002, 05:44 PM

Got it! What's the journalling filesystem thing all about?

The list of updates in 10.2.2 can be found here.

pianojoe · Nov 11, 2002, 05:47 PM

WOW! Quartz is on steroids, even on my old faithful ATI 8MB graphics iBook!

alset · Nov 11, 2002, 05:49 PM

[quote]Originally posted by edesignuk
[b]Got it! What's the journalling filesystem thing all about?

It's a UNIX file system of sorts. It keeps logs in great detail about EVERYTHING that happens on a machine. I believe this is supposed to allow you to restore the machine to a given state after any sort of crash, etc. Word is that it reduces disk/system speed in the area of (I think) 15%. Not something the average user is likely to be very interested in.

edesignuk · Nov 11, 2002, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chaszmyr
It isnt working.... When i click install it stays in the "Software Update" app, the window with the updates becomes unselected, and nothing starts downloading. If i select "Install Checked" from the menu bar the same thing happens.

You'll have to download the 10.2.2 installer from here, it's not there just yet but no doubt it will be soon enough.

redAPPLE · Nov 11, 2002, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pianojoe
WOW! Quartz is on steroids, even on my old faithful ATI 8MB graphics iBook!

downloading right now. what do you mean by "quartz is on steroids"?

how did u test it?

joed · Nov 11, 2002, 06:02 PM

Damn, I can't download it till I get home after work. Not for another 9 hours

What's the new version numbers on iChat and Mail?

Does sherlock work better?

pianojoe · Nov 11, 2002, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by redAPPLE

downloading right now. what do you mean by "quartz is on steroids"?

how did u test it?

Just feeling that the overall 2D graphics performance has significantly improved. In the Finder, in Chimera, in Mail...

And it's not even mentioned in the kb doc!

edesignuk · 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by joed
What's the new version numbers on iChat and Mail?

iChat 1.0.1 (v51.4)
Mail 1.2.2 (v549/548)

[edit]FYI anyone who's interested, the build version is 6F21[/edit]

pianojoe · Nov 11, 2002, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by joed

What's the new version numbers on iChat and Mail?

Mail: 1.2.2 (v549/548)

iChat: 1.0.1 (v51.4)

DreaminDirector · Nov 11, 2002, 06:15 PM

Any significant change in the functionality of iChat 1.0.1?

reyesmac · Nov 11, 2002, 06:18 PM

Every time you install something big it always boosts speed because of the optimisations it does at the end of the install. If you do not install things on a regular basis, you will feel it more than others. I don't see that they did anything to improve the finder, so I don't think I will see anything drastic from this update as far as the finder goes.

joed · Nov 11, 2002, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DreaminDirector
Any significant change in the functionality of iChat 1.0.1?

Damn, was hoping for a 1.1 version of iChat.

So does it actually work now?

OK, that was a bit harsh.

8thDegreeSavage · 06:54 AM

Where the *** is the gawdamn nvidea and ati drivers?....could have sworn they were in the 6f6 build....damn you APPLE!

mojobreakfast · Nov 11, 2002, 06:46 PM

[quote]Originally posted by alset
[b]

Quote:

Originally posted by edesignuk
Got it! What's the journalling filesystem thing all about?

It's a UNIX file system of sorts. It keeps logs in great detail about EVERYTHING that happens on a machine. I believe this is supposed to allow you to restore the machine to a given state after any sort of crash, etc. Word is that it reduces disk/system speed in the area of (I think) 15%. Not something the average user is likely to be very interested in.

Nice try. Journaling has nothing to do, intrinsically, with UNIX "file systems". Also, a journaling file system will not help you recover from "any" sort of crash. It might help avoid extended disk constistency checks under certain circumstances but it is not foolproof.

Chad4Mac · Nov 11, 2002, 06:57 PM

Sherlock...just try it out. Big time improvement!

Chad4Mac

MacBandit · Nov 11, 2002, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chad4Mac
Sherlock...just try it out. Big time improvement!

Chad4Mac

Yeah it was a big improvement. First time I went to use it it crashed after a few seconds. Other then that I notice no speed increase. Granted this is on a Dual/GHz/DDR with 1024MB of Ram and a Cable Modem.

a_kim · Nov 11, 2002, 07:16 PM

I was looking forward to having multiple lines in iChat, but alas there is still only one input line. How hard is it to make an option to have more than one input line visible? I actually don't see any differences in iChat (preferences are exactly the same, from what I remember), and the KB document doesn't mention iChat, even though the Software Update summary does. Weird. Tomorrow, I'll see if they fixed the weird problem I get at work where I can type to other people, but their messages never get to me (might be a firewall issue, except that it doesn't happen on the regular aol client).

-Alex

Centris Fan · Nov 11, 2002, 07:36 PM

Ain't the optimization just update the prebindings? This shouldn't have much an effect on the overall system performance alone. Besides, Jaguar does this automatically anyway. Correct me if I am wrong....

rugby · Nov 11, 2002, 07:38 PM

type 'diskutil' in terminal to see the option to enable journaling.

Chad4Mac · Nov 11, 2002, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MacBandit

Yeah it was a big improvement. First time I went to use it it crashed after a few seconds. Other then that I notice no speed increase. Granted this is on a Dual/GHz/DDR with 1024MB of Ram and a Cable Modem.

From Apple:
Reduces the time required for switching between Sherlock channels when using a low-bandwidth connection.

Does what it says it's supposed to, granted my Powerbook 667 with 1024 Mb and 17 kbs iDSL connection. Sherlock works like a charm...

Chad4Mac

Nov 11, 2002, 05:11 PM	#1
Classic macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2001	10.2.2 is out through Software Update... The 10.2.2 Update delivers enhanced functionality and improved reliability for the following applications and technologies: Address Book, iChat, IP Firewall, Mail, Print Center, Rendezvous, Sherlock and Windows file service discovery. The update also includes the updated services previously delivered in Security Update 2002-09-20. For detailed information on this Update, please visit http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n107140 ********** I'm off to download. I'll post if there are any problems.....

Nov 11, 2002, 05:27 PM	#2
Stelliform macrumors 68000 Join Date: Oct 2002	Thanks for the heads up! It is 24.4 MB. 50% done on my computer. __________________ Obi-Wan - "Luke, you're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view."

Nov 11, 2002, 05:33 PM	#3
Jays macrumors member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Earth	Installed!! no obvious changes at first glance... no problem with installation what so ever

Nov 11, 2002, 05:34 PM	#4
whfsdude macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Washington DC USA	Worked fine on two computers. Didn't work on the on G4 imac downstairs, got an error I am trying again now Update: Worked on G4 iMac after I quit SW Update and relaunched __________________ My Sites:DigitalRunDown<>HappyLittleThings<>Woot Industries Last edited by whfsdude : Nov 11, 2002 at 05:40 PM.

Nov 11, 2002, 05:44 PM	#6
edesignuk Demi-God (Moderator emeritus) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Great(?) Britain	Got it! What's the journalling filesystem thing all about? The list of updates in 10.2.2 can be found here. __________________ V's wise words Search before you post: MRoogle **Better BBC Search**

Nov 11, 2002, 05:41 PM	#5
Chaszmyr macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Boulder, CO	It isnt working.... When i click install it stays in the "Software Update" app, the window with the updates becomes unselected, and nothing starts downloading. If i select "Install Checked" from the menu bar the same thing happens.

Nov 11, 2002, 05:47 PM	#7
pianojoe macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: N 49.50121 E008.54558	WOW! Quartz is on steroids, even on my old faithful ATI 8MB graphics iBook! __________________ The cultural level of a nation can easily be defined by looking at the way they treat their enemies.

Nov 11, 2002, 05:49 PM	#8
alset macrumors 65816 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: East Bay, CA	[quote]Originally posted by edesignuk [b]Got it! What's the journalling filesystem thing all about? It's a UNIX file system of sorts. It keeps logs in great detail about EVERYTHING that happens on a machine. I believe this is supposed to allow you to restore the machine to a given state after any sort of crash, etc. Word is that it reduces disk/system speed in the area of (I think) 15%. Not something the average user is likely to be very interested in. __________________ alsetmusic.com standing on the shoulders of giants....

Nov 11, 2002, 06:02 PM	#11
joed macrumors regular Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dubai, UAE	Damn, I can't download it till I get home after work. Not for another 9 hours What's the new version numbers on iChat and Mail? Does sherlock work better? __________________ Mactimeline

Nov 11, 2002, 06:15 PM	#15
DreaminDirector macrumors 6502a Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Emeryville, CA	ichat? Any significant change in the functionality of iChat 1.0.1? __________________ "There's always something waiting at the end of the road. If you're not willing to see what it is, you probably shouldn't be out there in the first place."

Nov 11, 2002, 06:18 PM	#16
reyesmac macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Central Texas	Every time you install something big it always boosts speed because of the optimisations it does at the end of the install. If you do not install things on a regular basis, you will feel it more than others. I don't see that they did anything to improve the finder, so I don't think I will see anything drastic from this update as far as the finder goes.

Nov 11, 2002, 06:33 PM	#18
8thDegreeSavage macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada	Where the *** is the gawdamn nvidea and ati drivers?....could have sworn they were in the 6f6 build....damn you APPLE! __________________ What the bloodclot is the damned error now. Last edited by arn : Nov 12, 2002 at 06:54 AM.

Nov 11, 2002, 06:57 PM	#20
Chad4Mac macrumors 6502 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Angeles	Sherlock...just try it out. Big time improvement! Chad4Mac __________________ "TNT -- Today, Not Tomorrow" "Earn your living by working -- earn your life by giving." GLGII

Nov 11, 2002, 07:16 PM	#22
a_kim macrumors member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: DC	iChat... bad news I was looking forward to having multiple lines in iChat, but alas there is still only one input line. How hard is it to make an option to have more than one input line visible? I actually don't see any differences in iChat (preferences are exactly the same, from what I remember), and the KB document doesn't mention iChat, even though the Software Update summary does. Weird. Tomorrow, I'll see if they fixed the weird problem I get at work where I can type to other people, but their messages never get to me (might be a firewall issue, except that it doesn't happen on the regular aol client). -Alex

Nov 11, 2002, 07:36 PM	#23
Centris Fan macrumors newbie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Upstate NY	Optimizatizzle Ain't the optimization just update the prebindings? This shouldn't have much an effect on the overall system performance alone. Besides, Jaguar does this automatically anyway. Correct me if I am wrong.... __________________ The Sperm Theory will prevail

Nov 11, 2002, 07:38 PM	#24
rugby macrumors regular Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: chicago	type 'diskutil' in terminal to see the option to enable journaling.

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