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Old Sep 12, 2012, 05:33 PM   #1
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Am I being naive?

Why the ENORMOUS price difference between Apple Australia and Apple USA?

The Aussie dollar has parity with the US dollar, but the BASE iPhone5 is over AUS$800 in Australia.
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Old Sep 12, 2012, 05:34 PM   #2
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You are looking at unsubsidized pricing
The US prices are with a 2 year contract on the carrier... i.e. a subsidized price
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Old Sep 12, 2012, 05:35 PM   #3
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The base iphone 5 here is $649.

There are many factors that may apply including import tax, local tax, federal tax, etc...
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Old Sep 12, 2012, 05:35 PM   #4
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Same **** here in europe!

679€ for the 16GB iphone 5......that's $875!!!
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Old Sep 13, 2012, 06:28 AM   #5
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You are looking at unsubsidized pricing
The US prices are with a 2 year contract on the carrier... i.e. a subsidized price
Thank you, MacDawg.
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Old Sep 13, 2012, 06:30 AM   #6
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IN AU can you get a discount if you sign a contract like in the US?
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Old Sep 13, 2012, 06:37 AM   #7
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The base iphone 5 here is $649.

There are many factors that may apply including import tax, local tax, federal tax, etc...
And a little gouging. All companies do it to us down here.

I'm buying one anyway, am I right people!?
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Old Sep 13, 2012, 07:42 AM   #8
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The base iphone 5 here is $649.

There are many factors that may apply including import tax, local tax, federal tax, etc...
You guys pay Tax on top of that right? About 10%? So it works out $714USD???

Our pricing is $799AUD including GST. So $85 difference isn't too bad.


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IN AU can you get a discount if you sign a contract like in the US?
Yes we get it cheaper on a contract, but we pay monthly instead of upfront (e.g.. 16GB iPhone4S is currently an extra $7 per month on a $60 plan x 24 months, It varies with the plans, they come 'free' or included on higher plans)
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Old Sep 13, 2012, 07:49 AM   #9
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You guys pay Tax on top of that right? About 10%? So it works out $714USD???

Our pricing is $799AUD including GST. So $85 difference isn't too bad.
Tax varies, some places it is no tax, others it may be close to 10%. Where I live, tax is 6%
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Old Nov 29, 2012, 10:29 PM   #10
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Australians at age 20 make a minimum wage of $15.69 an hour American's make an average minimum of $6.50 there is a big difference that is why you pay more. If anything you should be paying double.
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Old Nov 30, 2012, 04:29 AM   #11
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As some who has lived in Oz and now US, I think everything costs more in Australia. Custom fee and processing, transportation, GST taxes and huge difference in retail wages, low population for apportioning overheads means everything in OZ costs more. Even a cruise starting in the US is sold for higher price in OZ. US wages and transportation costs are lower than Europe. This is not about Apple but local costs. Even McDonalds pricing is same. I just got back from a European trip and everything costs more there! Luckily no US style tipping system there.
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Old Nov 30, 2012, 05:35 AM   #12
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Australians at age 20 make a minimum wage of $15.69 an hour American's make an average minimum of $6.50 there is a big difference that is why you pay more. If anything you should be paying double.
This is probably part of the reason. Thank your government. In addition to import taxes and fees.
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Old Nov 30, 2012, 05:52 AM   #13
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Actually we Australians pay THE SAME on plans! We can get the iphone 5 for FREE with $60 a month for two years. American pay $200 and have to pay something like $50 a month plus TAX. In australia 10% GST is included, so to make matters even worse for americans, they pay $220 for the phone. And also (not 100% sure) pay 10% on top of the monthly bill. Also we make more money than americans on average.

Outright Americans get it for $649+tax (~$65) while we get it for $799 outright. It works out cheaper for them by about $70 outright but as said earlier, on average we make more $ per hour. The Iphone also subsidised in Australia.
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Old Nov 30, 2012, 06:00 AM   #14
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Here in Sweden the lowest price for an unlocked iPhone 5 16 GB is equivalent to around 900 USD...
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Old Nov 30, 2012, 06:20 AM   #15
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Am I being naive?
Why the ENORMOUS price difference between Apple Australia and Apple USA?
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And a little gouging. All companies do it to us down here.
Average incomes are also higher in Australia, which allows them to get away with a higher price at the same level of demand when all other exogenous factors are equal (which they are not).

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This is probably part of the reason. Thank your government. In addition to import taxes and fees.
How is a bad thing if prices are high, but wages are even higher? The net result is lower prices relative to wages. You are actually applauding the government.

edit: or was that your intention? (thought it was sarcasm at first)
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Higher prices reduce the standard of living. Australia is around 5th in GDP per capita but drops to 12th or so when purchasing power parity is considered. In the US it is just the reverse and the US ends up in the top 5 for GDP per capita PPP. Bottom line when taxes are low and regulations are low more people have a better standard of living including being able to afford to buy an iPhone. BTW, it is not Apple making more money but the higher expenses in Australia that increase the end price. Additionally, US networks provide unlimited minutes and calls to mobile phones are same as calls to landlines. In Australia calls to mobile phones from landlines are more expensive than calls to the US. So the wireless providers get this additional revenue, thanks to Telstra.

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Average incomes are also higher in Australia, which allows them to get away with a higher price at the same level of demand when all other exogenous factors are equal (which they are not).

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How is a bad thing if prices are high, but wages are even higher? The net result is lower prices relative to wages. You are actually applauding the government.

edit: or was that your intention? (thought it was sarcasm at first)
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