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Old Sep 17, 2012, 11:34 AM   #51
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I am kinda of tired of those people who call us "perfectionist" or "nitpickers" or "OCD"

The problem is serious, and doesn't suit a quality product.

This is how it looks on mine. And oh. I use this machine to work, to make a living, not to scroll around on Facebook

First picture shows my design program. Second picture shows what you see after 5 min. on a grey background.
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Old Sep 17, 2012, 11:37 AM   #52
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Just wanted add myself to the statistics, LG display, showed the signes of image retention after a month, first occurrence after reading a PDF doc for about 2 hours.

Funny side note, when I asked, at Apple Support forum, why there is no class action lawsuit for this issue yet, my posts were promptly removed. I guess that is expected though
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Old Sep 17, 2012, 11:38 AM   #53
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Not much has changes then since the days of my Cinema Display that also has screen persistence.
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Old Sep 17, 2012, 11:42 AM   #54
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LOL. The nerve of Samsung not being inferior!
You know if it was the other way around (i.e. Samsung displays have the problem) folks would have posted editorials on how it's a conspirarcy lol

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No ghosting on my side, but dead pixels (5 to be precise). Not going to say I'm disappointed, but I feel a little let down by a $2000 product
You should be disappointed, and you should demand an exchange. A big portion of what you paid is for the quality of the product, and honestly, you shouldn't settle for anything inferior.
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Old Sep 17, 2012, 11:43 AM   #55
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Not sure what's with all the "this is what happens when you buy Rev A products". If people didn't buy Rev A products there wouldn't be Rev B products for you, those we are so brilliant for waiting, to buy.

I'm on my 2nd rMBP and this one is ghosting worse than the first. Both LG panels. Others at work have Samsung panels and aren't seeing this problem. Save for the ghosting, I love the machine.
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Old Sep 17, 2012, 11:43 AM   #56
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I didn't believe in ghosts before but now i do!
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Old Sep 17, 2012, 11:46 AM   #57
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No issues at all with mine. But I can't say anything other than UI stays on the screen for 10 solid minutes. I have too much work to do. And I'm happy to be an early adaptor in this case - it's easily the best computing experience I've ever had.
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Old Sep 17, 2012, 11:47 AM   #58
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You now actually need to use screen savers again? Who-hoo - back to the 90's... Now, where did I put that floppy disc with the flying toasters on again?
I do think it is good idea to use screen saver to prevent ghosting on the new displays. But why should screen saver be related to 90s or old time? It is a means of protection which is needed by some technologies, but not the others.
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Old Sep 17, 2012, 11:47 AM   #59
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i get this on my iPad; tho now i dont remember which generation since i have 2 and 3 sitting around.

id figured it was normal since my plasma does it as well, despite different technologies.

anybody know if its normal or not normal on ipads?
No it is not normal for an LCD screen to do that. That is one of the main advantages of LCD over Plasma screens. Being that these laptops are the first retina display laptops on the market, they may have some quarks to them. Then again if these were windows laptops with retina displays they would most likely run into the same problem or perhaps even worse. At least apple is willing to replace these computers. Some PC companies aren't as willing to help.
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Old Sep 17, 2012, 11:48 AM   #60
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Anyone can bash Samsung as much as they want, but there's no denying they are the best component supplier (in terms of quality) for Apple. I believe Sammy's SSD's are superior in performance as well when compared to Toshiba.
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Old Sep 17, 2012, 11:49 AM   #61
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is image persistence the word apple requires their genius' to use instead of image retention?

where did macrumors come up with this new slang?
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Old Sep 17, 2012, 11:50 AM   #62
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And this is why you don't buy Rev. A Apple products.

All the early adopters should think of themselves as beta testers for the real rMBPs coming out next year.
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Old Sep 17, 2012, 11:51 AM   #63
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No ghosting here, Samsung display.

Go ... Samsung?
I wish the Apple/Samsung fighting would end. Samsung is up there with Apple in terms of good products as far as I'm concerned. Design, not so much maybe (design is subjective), but I typically go for Samsung products first when I;m looking for general media hardware. Imagine the glory of a Samsung TV in a shell designed by Apple running a new version of Apple TV.
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Old Sep 17, 2012, 11:53 AM   #64
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Figures... I order one yesterday and see this today.... LOL
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Old Sep 17, 2012, 11:53 AM   #65
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Old Sep 17, 2012, 11:54 AM   #66
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And this is why you don't buy Rev. A Apple products.
Yeah because no other Mac or Apple Display ever had any ghosting issue before.
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Old Sep 17, 2012, 11:54 AM   #67
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I'm glad MacRumors has posted followup about this. Apple is doing nothing about it. Everyone else in the media just dropped it, despite the thread on Apple's support forums growing the whole time now 200+ pages! I don't even think an Apple rep has responded there (I stopped checking regularly after about 110 pages).
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Old Sep 17, 2012, 11:55 AM   #68
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All the early adopters should think of themselves as beta testers for the real rMBPs coming out next year.
So far my beta test is a huge success.
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Old Sep 17, 2012, 11:55 AM   #69
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No ghosting here. And no rMBP either
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Old Sep 17, 2012, 12:00 PM   #70
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This is not normal for an tips display. I have owned I pads, iPhones, MacBook pros, imacs and none of them have had this issue and all have tips displays. If I spent 2 grand on a laptop you bet I would be returning it to if it was ghosting. My imac has yellow tint in the corner but it doesn't bug me since it is only really visible on the apple boot screen but this would annoy me if visible during daily work
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Old Sep 17, 2012, 12:00 PM   #71
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I need a new computer and I really do want one of these--I was hoping that the discussions on this would die down--meaning there were not so many complaints. But the Apple forum discussion continues--I have read about everything I can on this and am at the point where it seems the only way to know for sure is to get one and see what happens. I am probably going to wait until Amazon gets them in stock again and try my luck there.
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Old Sep 17, 2012, 12:01 PM   #72
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So far my beta test is a huge success.
Everyone else must be holding their rMBPs wrong . . .
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Old Sep 17, 2012, 12:02 PM   #73
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Welcome to the new Apple!! Profit profit profit.

It's defective? Many users complaining?
Just say it's a normal behaviour.

It's clear that they are betting for the phone and tablet market.
Apple computers are a minor business for them, Servers are out, MacBook Pro 17 is out, next one Mac Pro. Professionals (those who one day were almost the only customers) are been left behind, and I don't think this is going to end well for Apple, as Android is beating hard.

A shame.

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Old Sep 17, 2012, 12:02 PM   #74
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Go ... Samsung?
Yeah, who would've thought? But seriously, Samsung does make good displays.
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Old Sep 17, 2012, 12:03 PM   #75
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I have to agree, as much as I want one of these MBPs... The next generation is probably going to be amazing-er, and without the drawbacks. Here's to hoping...
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The price for beta testing.
Not saying it's not an issue, but mine's running flawlessly.
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