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Old Sep 19, 2012, 03:11 AM   #51
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They probably found that the lightning connector wasn't quite strong enough to reliably support the phone, it's a lot narrower than the old connector.
Yep this exactly. I wouldn't want to put all the weight with the extra leverage on the taller iPhone, all on that small, thin, lightening port.
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 03:48 AM   #52
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End of an era

The end of the dock looks like a materialization of the end of the "digital hub" model. The Mac was the spaceship and the portable music player would connect to it through a pod bay, like in 2001.

For me, the dock was really materializing this "pod" part of the name iPod. I'm French and Pod sounds like "Pied" (foot) - like in the word "pedometer". The dock really was the foot, a necessary support piece and umbilical cord for the device to stand and connect to its mothership, the Mac.

But now Apple has shifted to a new paradigm. You don't need to connect your iOS device to a computer anymore, even upon first use. It is cable and tangle-free with Airplay, Airplay mirroring, Airprint, iCloud, iTunes in the cloud. So it sounds normal to let the dock go now. It is too much of a symbol of the Old Days !
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 04:14 AM   #53
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I have the dock in the news entry photo for my iPod Touch 4G. Disappointing if the article is true. An adapter on that just won't work on my new iPod.
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 04:19 AM   #54
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The reason why there will be no iPhone 5 dock is because the connector it too fragile to dock to, as discussed here...

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1444987
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 05:21 AM   #55
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Well Apple, quite frankly: This sucks.

Why change the connector anyways? The old one was good, no?
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 05:37 AM   #56
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I wonder how he actually knows how "most people who use docks use them with speaker or clock systems."
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 05:45 AM   #57
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Actually this email was originally published in MacRumors forums

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1443242
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 05:47 AM   #58
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Yep this exactly. I wouldn't want to put all the weight with the extra leverage on the taller iPhone, all on that small, thin, lightening port.
I'd want a better look before jumping to that conclusion.

It looks deeper than the old plug, with the electrical connections at one end. If the 'body' of the plug is near-solid aluminium and keys in to the aluminium bezel of the phone it could be quite sturdy. The old connector, with all the weight going on the thin outer shield and electrical connectors, was hardly ideal.

If Apple aren't producing a dock then the most likely reason is that they weren't selling many.

What is disappointing is the fugly, chunky 30 pin adaptor - sitting that in an old dock and perching the iPhone on top is going to be precarious. I expect better of Apple - couldn't they have built one into a universal dock insert?
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 07:08 AM   #59
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They could build a "lightning+minijack to 30-pin connector" adapter for use on older docks. That would allow for a sturdier setup + analog line out/headphone out. Seems like a good Kickstarter project. If the gentlemen who built the Nifty Minidrive for MBA/MBP read this...
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 07:24 AM   #60
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Gross. Why would you want to cover something so beautiful, thin, light, and durable? Enjoy your iPhone
Because I paid $650 for it and can't afford to break the screen if I drop it which will inevitably happen from time to time
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 07:45 AM   #61
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Damn!

I use my docks all the time. One on the bed side table and one on my desk at work. I've not actually plugged a cable into my iPhone for ages!

Oh well, hopefully there will be some decent third party ones made. I don't mind paying good money for a dock because I use it so often, and because my phone is never just put down flat on it's back, it stays in great condition.
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 07:49 AM   #62
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Gross. Why would you want to cover something so beautiful, thin, light, and durable? Enjoy your iPhone
That seems like a truly unenlightened comment man.

The lack of Apple's dock means there is now an ability for third party manufacturers to cash in and there is no longer a reason to pay Apple their higher prices for a lack-luster dock.
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 07:52 AM   #63
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Well that's disappointing. I always get an Apple dock and use it at night to charge the phone.
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 08:16 AM   #64
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Mono-price will have one made in a month or two.... seriously, not a big deal....
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 08:17 AM   #65
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So if I want a dock I am going to have to buy some $100+ clock radio?

WTF??
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 08:26 AM   #66
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Disappointing as I find them useful but not surprising.

Out with the 'dock connector' and in with Lightning. Sounds like Apple didn't want the dock connector name to stick.
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 08:34 AM   #67
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Lies! There will be a Lightning Dock!!!

This posted rumor about there not being a dock for the iPhone 5 is false. I chatted with an Apple Specialist the other day about if there was going to be a new dock for the iPhone 5. Indeed there will be. It will be called "Lightning Dock" and it will only be available for the iPhone 5 due to the new Lightning Connector. It will be available September 21st when the iPhone is available to the public. What is interesting is that I chatted with a different Apple Specialist a day later and that Specialist wouldn't confirm if there was going to be one or not. Sent an email to MacRumors about this but I guess they figured this rumor was inconclusive. Time will tell.
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 08:39 AM   #68
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I love my dock

I have three of them, one on my office desk, one on my bedside table and another in the kitchen. They are used everyday

I'm not to worried, I'm sure there will be some aftermarket ones, but an Apple manufactured dock would presumably be better and more elegent
Exactly the same here. It's very frustrating that they wont be making new ones. I was hacked off enough when they didn't include docks with the latter iphones.
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 09:01 AM   #69
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Did the iPad have an available dock?
they just put a piece of plastic vertically to help support it.

this could be done with the lightning dock and the iPhone 5
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 09:01 AM   #70
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Dock or no dock? I have a couple of docks at home, but I found I didn't use them very much. My issue was my bumper. I could not use the dock with a bumper on the phone. If I wanted to, I would have to remove the bumper and then plug it in. It just got easier to use the cord alone without the dock. The Apple bumpers fall apart quickly if you are pulling them off and on all the time.

Oh and the main reason I used a bumper? For traction. The iPhone 4S is slippery smooth. The bumper provides a little resistance, keeping it in my pocket better or sitting on my nightstand a little more securely. Plus I felt like I could hold the phone better. (Using past tense since my third bumper broke and I have gone without since my new phone is arriving Friday.)
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 09:09 AM   #71
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Well this is a shame. I pop my iPhone into its dock as soon as I get home and there it stays until I leave.

But that's probably old fashioned as most people keep their phone on their person most of the time. I do remember when it was all fields around here and people should keep off my lawn.
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 09:11 AM   #72
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Ha I guess I am not one of those people I actually use a DOC that said only more opportunity for others to fill the vacuum.
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 09:34 AM   #73
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Well, that is quite weird because Apple always promoted their "new technology" by all means - so the new dock should be first on the list of new accessories, I think...
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 09:43 AM   #74
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Gross. Why would you want to cover something so beautiful, thin, light, and durable? Enjoy your iPhone
How about to protect your $650 dollar phone when it falls out of your pocket. Besides, reviews have already reported the black coming off of the outer aluminum edge. A simple bumper would address this and preserve the beautiful design.
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 09:44 AM   #75
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I can live w/o a dock. I bought one for my iPhone 4, but I've not used it in more than a year. The loose dock cable just makes it easier to dock any of my 4 iDevices.

I'd really like a bumper though. That's the only "case" I bought for the iPhone 4. I like it for the silicone edging that gives it more "grip" on surfaces, and in my pocket.
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