Apple Releases Carrier Update for Verizon iPhone 5 to Reduce Inadvertent Cellular Data Usage - Page 2

faroZ06 · Sep 30, 2012, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooner83

How can you tap and hold the power button and slide the bar? Your phone will shutdown before you can slide the bar lol

No.

altjx · Sep 30, 2012, 08:21 PM

Wow... Thank you for posting this. This explains why I used about 200 MB today and I've been at home and on WiFi all day long.

faroZ06 · Sep 30, 2012, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by carterja

I noticed if you disable LTE (on AT&T devices) it will help the issue ... for the time being. It needs to be fixed because I do not want to flip flop back and forth just to conserve.

When you suspect that you are using LTE data while you're on wifi, go to whatismyip.com, and check to see if that IP matches up with your wifi router's IP. If it does not, you will uncover the mystery behind this.

Kenjancef · Sep 30, 2012, 08:22 PM

I had noticed something weird since I got my iPhone last Friday: when I hit the button to wake the phone and slide the slider to get in the phone, I noticed that I would see "LTE" where the Wi-Fi icon should be (this is at home). After about 1-2 seconds it would change back to the Wi-Fi icon. So I was thinking that maybe the phone was switching to LTE and dropping my Wi-Fi, then switching back.

Just did the update and will keep my eye on it tomorrow to see if I still notice it changing.

Anyone else see this?

EDIT: just checked usage, says 108MB Sent, 1.0GB received, so maybe I was using Verizon's data as well. Luckily I still have unlimited data! I am going to reset the statistics and check it tomorrow or Tuesday.

Curious to see how Verizon will handle this....

altjx · Sep 30, 2012, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenjancef

I had noticed something weird since I got my iPhone last Friday: when I hit the button to wake the phone and slide the slider to get in the phone, I noticed that I would see "LTE" where the Wi-Fi icon should be (this is at home). After about 1-2 seconds it would change back to the Wi-Fi icon. So I was thinking that maybe the phone was switching to LTE and dropping my Wi-Fi, then switching back.

Just did the update and will keep my eye on it tomorrow to see if I still notice it changing.

Anyone else see this?

Exactly. Same here. I've noticed the EXACT same thing! It would switch back to Wifi probably after unlocking the phone or something. I've used like 200 MB today and have been on Wifi the ENTIRE day. I always thought this was weird, and now I'm glad I have MacRumors in my Google Reader's RSS feed ^_^

carterja · Sep 30, 2012, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenjancef

I had noticed something weird since I got my iPhone last Friday: when I hit the button to wake the phone and slide the slider to get in the phone, I noticed that I would see "LTE" where the Wi-Fi icon should be (this is at home). After about 1-2 seconds it would change back to the Wi-Fi icon. So I was thinking that maybe the phone was switching to LTE and dropping my Wi-Fi, then switching back.

Just did the update and will keep my eye on it tomorrow to see if I still notice it changing.

Anyone else see this?

the Wifi radio is turned off when the phone is in sleep mode.
It will turn back on as soon as you use the phone.

I live in an area with NO LTE coverage, and with LTE enabled, it was still using my monthly data, and not Wifi. =\

Omacc · Sep 30, 2012, 08:25 PM

So we have to power it off and on twice?

"it states at note: to power down then on AGAIN"

vartanarsen · Sep 30, 2012, 08:27 PM

Isnt anyone suspicious that the is an OTA Verizon drop locking the 3G GSM Sim slot?

Kenjancef · Sep 30, 2012, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Omacc

So we have to power it off and on twice?

"it states at note: to power down then on AGAIN"

Just for the hell of it I did it twice. Doesn't take long to do it since the iPhone 5 is WAY faster on startup/shutdown than previous.

djinn · Sep 30, 2012, 08:30 PM

Weird.... my phone already had the 13.1.

faroZ06 · Sep 30, 2012, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by carterja

the Wifi radio is turned off when the phone is in sleep mode.
It will turn back on as soon as you use the phone.

I live in an area with NO LTE coverage, and with LTE enabled, it was still using my monthly data, and not Wifi. =\

Are you sure it's really using data? Someone said that it was racking up data usage in the "usage" section of the iOS settings, but that was not reflected on Verizon's website.

Go to whatismyip.com, and check to see if you are really using cellular data that way.

oneprouddaddy · Sep 30, 2012, 08:31 PM

Not that it matters much (with unlimited data & less LTE) but does anyone know if it affects Sprint iPhone 5

DirtySocks85 · Sep 30, 2012, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by vartanarsen

Isnt anyone suspicious that the is an OTA Verizon drop locking the 3G GSM Sim slot?

Not saying that they're always "honest", but I'm thinking they'd be in a bit of a PR pickle if they did so after this:

WSJ: Verizon says iPhone 5 won't be 'relocked'

JustGretchen · Sep 30, 2012, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by irod87

So glad this came out, hope it works. Ive gone through 2.3gb in about 9 days with wifi usage and low streaming.

I have used EXACTLY this amount of data since my phone was delivered on launch day at 3pm. Prior to this I NEVER used more than 800mb a MONTH since i got my VZW iPhone 4.

I just thought it was LTE gobbling. I guess I was wrong.

What is really odd is that VZ shows I used 1.121GB since 9 days ago. This makes 0 sense.

Omacc · Sep 30, 2012, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenjancef

Just for the hell of it I did it twice. Doesn't take long to do it since the iPhone 5 is WAY faster on startup/shutdown than previous.

I just did the same

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Originally Posted by djinn

Weird.... my phone already had the 13.1.

same.

shurcooL · Sep 30, 2012, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MacRumors

Serious question. Why is the picture is so messed up? Look at the fonts. What happened to it? It's just a crop of a screenshot from iOS, how could it have been ruined in the process?

A more detailed description of what happened... it seems some vertical rows of pixels are missing.

Kaibelf · Sep 30, 2012, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by shurcooL

Serious question. Why is the picture is so messed up? Look at the fonts. What happened to it? It's just a crop of a screenshot from iOS, how could it have been ruined in the process?

A more detailed description of what happened... it seems some vertical rows of pixels are missing.

This is a "serious" question? Okey dokey!

nsayer · Sep 30, 2012, 08:42 PM

So far as I can tell, this carrier update also removed IPv6 over LTE functionality.

Tech198 · Sep 30, 2012, 08:44 PM

I thought these "Carrier Updates" came from the mobile carrier, NOT from Apple. Its only 'Software Updates' which did.

I've never seen an update which says "restart your phone"

shurcooL · Sep 30, 2012, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaibelf

This is a "serious" question? Okey dokey!

Yes, I care about things being pixel perfect. That image looks like vomit and it bothers me.

Mostly, I'm just curious how it ended up being edited so horribly. If I had to recreate that effect on purpose, it would probably take me 15 mins...

Keyhole · 09:09 PM

I'm not 100% convinced this doesn't affect AT&T phones as well.

BornAgainApple · Sep 30, 2012, 08:48 PM

My wife and I have had this issue with our AT&T iPhone 4's for two years now. I noticed a large amount of data being sent from our phones around midnight. I received no resolution to the issue after reporting it to both companies, and we now must resort to toggling off the cellular data while asleep. Fortunately I jailbroke both phones and toggling is much easier with SBSettings.

kingsrule5 · Sep 30, 2012, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Keyhole

I'm not 100% convicted this doesn't affect AT&T phones as well.

I am 100% convinced that is does affect AT&T phones because I have AT&T and it's happening to me.

charlituna · Sep 30, 2012, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tech198

I thought these "Carrier Updates" came from the mobile carrier, NOT from Apple. Its only 'Software Updates' which did.

Since the carriers don't have access to Apple's systems, these updates have to be sent by Apple.

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I've never seen an update which says "restart your phone"

Sure you have. Happens with every iOS update. It needs to have you restart to flush out the old settings and load the new ones

shurcooL · Sep 30, 2012, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by shurcooL

Serious question. Why is the picture is so messed up? Look at the fonts. What happened to it? It's just a crop of a screenshot from iOS, how could it have been ruined in the process?

A more detailed description of what happened... it seems some vertical rows of pixels are missing.

Here, I took this image:

And performed the same horrible editing to it:

Can you see the difference?

Can anyone tell me why the picture in this news article was butchered in a similar way?

Sep 30, 2012, 08:22 PM	#29
Kenjancef macrumors member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: East Providence, RI	I had noticed something weird since I got my iPhone last Friday: when I hit the button to wake the phone and slide the slider to get in the phone, I noticed that I would see "LTE" where the Wi-Fi icon should be (this is at home). After about 1-2 seconds it would change back to the Wi-Fi icon. So I was thinking that maybe the phone was switching to LTE and dropping my Wi-Fi, then switching back. Just did the update and will keep my eye on it tomorrow to see if I still notice it changing. Anyone else see this? EDIT: just checked usage, says 108MB Sent, 1.0GB received, so maybe I was using Verizon's data as well. Luckily I still have unlimited data! I am going to reset the statistics and check it tomorrow or Tuesday. Curious to see how Verizon will handle this.... __________________ Verizon iPhone 5 (Black), Mid 2009 15" MacBook Pro, Early 2009 Mac Mini, 1st gen iPad 64GB Wi-Fi/3G, 4th gen. iPod Touch 64GB
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Sep 30, 2012, 08:30 PM	#35
djinn macrumors 65816 Join Date: Oct 2003	Weird.... my phone already had the 13.1. __________________ uMBP 15 (personal) and MBA 13 (work) iPhone 5 32gig
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Sep 30, 2012, 08:44 PM	#44
Tech198 macrumors 68000 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Australia, Perth	I thought these "Carrier Updates" came from the mobile carrier, NOT from Apple. Its only 'Software Updates' which did. I've never seen an update which says "restart your phone" __________________ 15" i7 Macbook Pro, 750Gig HD, Apple TV 2, iPhone 4S, iPad 3 16Gig
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Sep 30, 2012, 08:45 PM	#46
Keyhole macrumors member Join Date: Jul 2008	I'm not 100% convinced this doesn't affect AT&T phones as well. Last edited by Keyhole; Sep 30, 2012 at 09:09 PM.
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Sep 30, 2012, 08:48 PM	#47
BornAgainApple macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Massachusetts	My wife and I have had this issue with our AT&T iPhone 4's for two years now. I noticed a large amount of data being sent from our phones around midnight. I received no resolution to the issue after reporting it to both companies, and we now must resort to toggling off the cellular data while asleep. Fortunately I jailbroke both phones and toggling is much easier with SBSettings. __________________ Mid-2009 13" MBP OS X 10.8 (128GB SSD,500GB HDD, 8GB RAM) iPhone 5 32GB Retina iPad 32GB
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Sep 30, 2012, 08:21 PM	#27
altjx macrumors newbie Join Date: May 2010	Wow... Thank you for posting this. This explains why I used about 200 MB today and I've been at home and on WiFi all day long.
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Sep 30, 2012, 08:25 PM	#32
Omacc macrumors member Join Date: Sep 2012	So we have to power it off and on twice? "it states at note: to power down then on AGAIN"
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Sep 30, 2012, 08:27 PM	#33
vartanarsen macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jul 2010	Isnt anyone suspicious that the is an OTA Verizon drop locking the 3G GSM Sim slot?
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Sep 30, 2012, 08:31 PM	#37
oneprouddaddy macrumors member Join Date: Jan 2010	Not that it matters much (with unlimited data & less LTE) but does anyone know if it affects Sprint iPhone 5
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Sep 30, 2012, 08:42 PM	#43
nsayer macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jan 2003	So far as I can tell, this carrier update also removed IPv6 over LTE functionality.
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