Apple to Upgrade iApps in the Coming Months

MacRumors · Nov 21, 2002, 05:41 AM

Over the past couple of years, Apple has been introducing more consumer applications, casually dubbed "iApps" to help promote the Mac as the center of your digital life.

The application list has grown long and now includes: iTunes, iDVD, iMovie, iPhoto, iSync, and iCal. Professional versions of some of these applications also exist, which include DVD Studio Pro and Final Cut Pro.

As previously reported, iTunes is set for a significant upgrade at or around MacWorld SanFrancisco with adoption of Rendezvous technology, as well as support for the AAC MPEG4 format.

In the coming months, it appears all of Apple's iApps are due for revision. iDVD 3, iMovie 3 and iPhoto 2 (previous details), iSync GM, and iCal updates are expected. Apple is expected to increase integration between the iApps, provide international support as well as introduce a new Application in the coming months.

In the meanwhile, Spymac reports that Final Cut Pro will also be upgraded to version 4 in January.

joed · 06:24 AM

Isn't iChat supposed to get an overhaul in 10.2.3?

I also remember seeing somewhere that iSync beta actually has a expiry date, does anyone remember?

I would guess that either or iMovie/iDVD will get an update at the DV Expo on December 10 (this has been the launching pad in the past for software updates, Final Cut Pro was updated at last years from memory).

Also, RAILhead has hinted at updated iApps.

irmongoose · Nov 21, 2002, 06:25 AM

Nice.... the two iApps I'm waiting for are iMovie 3 and iDVD 3... iMovie simply needs an upgrade, it's been too long since the initial release. In iDVD 3 I need to be able to make chapters.

Other than that, I'm pretty much happy right now, but of course, we all love updates, don't we?

What if Steve announces updates for ALL the iApps at MWSF? That'll be awesome.. but of course, it won't happen...

irmongoose

Mr. Anderson · Nov 21, 2002, 07:44 AM

If we get FCP4 in january, I'm going to be very happy. I'm also hoping that some of the recent purchases of Apple get adapted for this next version. Very cool!!!

D

iN8 · Nov 21, 2002, 09:42 AM

I hope they fix the bug in iTunes where whenever you are playing a CD it pauses every few seconds and creates gaps in the song. Very annoying and makes iTunes useless for playing CDs. I thought it was just me but I have heard of many people that have the same problem, but no fix.

puffmarvin · Nov 21, 2002, 10:02 AM

iChat expires in February

agent302 · Nov 21, 2002, 10:02 AM

What about Appleworks? It's by far the most stagnant of Apple's applications and gone the longest since a major upgrade (Appleworks 6 was released at MWSF 2000; it's been almost 3 years!)

drastik · Nov 21, 2002, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by agent302
What about Appleworks? It's by far the most stagnant of Apple's applications and gone the longest since a major upgrade (Appleworks 6 was released at MWSF 2000; it's been almost 3 years!)

I think what you are seeing here is a fundemental move away from appleworks, or at least what used to be apple works. Apple is more and more serious about abandoning M$. IF the lose explorer, that is a pretty bold move. In order to compete with Office, Appleworks has to be not only upgraded, but practically redone, incorporating open office or thinkfree office.

There were rumors a while back about apple and Open Office, be nice to get it already installed on machines. I think people are sick enough of microsoft that the concept of open source and multi-programmer apps is starting to enter the mainstream. A few years ago, your average computer user had no clue what Linux was, now Dell seel it on their site.

Its a changing worl folks, but the big change I'd like to see is different compession options in iMovie. I use FCP for all my editing, but sometimes I use iMovie on my Pism as a monitor when I'm shooting, I like to grab some of those seens, but the DV compression is way to large for something I'm not really going to cut.

mnkeybsness · Nov 21, 2002, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by iN8
I hope they fix the bug in iTunes where whenever you are playing a CD it pauses every few seconds and creates gaps in the song. Very annoying and makes iTunes useless for playing CDs. I thought it was just me but I have heard of many people that have the same problem, but no fix.

problem? what CD problem? never heard of this before...relevent threads would be nice

drastik · Nov 21, 2002, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mnkeybsness

problem? what CD problem? never heard of this before...relevent threads would be nice

I have to agree here, I have never had a problem wih CDs in iTUnes. Not in 9 or X. If anything, iTunes makes Cds better by crossfading the track ends.

I am really looking forward to rondevous iTunes now that my airport network is up and running.

zedwards · Nov 21, 2002, 10:32 AM

The headline might as well say: Apple may or may not do something by 2003. What sort of alogorithm is used to make such daring statements? And then to follow up with complaints and gripes about some irrelevant or imaginary issues that only pertains to .003 % of Mac users.

Now I got that off my chest, I would love to see Appleworks kick some a$$.

impierced · Nov 21, 2002, 10:37 AM

Hmmm, wanna bet that Final Cut Pro 4 will be 100% Cocoa ...

The rumor of OS X on AMD along with a beta of FCP is my rational.

drastik · Nov 21, 2002, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by impierced
Hmmm, wanna bet that Final Cut Pro 4 will be 100% Cocoa ...

The rumor of OS X on AMD along with a beta of FCP is my rational.

You are deifinitely right, here, given that FCP 4 probably will be released around the time that new machines start booting into X only. Bye bye 9. I've been X only for two monthsnow, and everything is wonderfull.

iN8 · Nov 21, 2002, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mnkeybsness

problem? what CD problem? never heard of this before...relevent threads would be nice

Here's a couple:

Macfixit

Apple Discussion Boards

Tue12 · Nov 21, 2002, 11:52 AM

I'd like to see iMovie 3 as 100% Cocoa.

dethl · Nov 21, 2002, 11:55 AM

Apple will announce OS X Server for x86! (j/k!!!!)

Really, I hope Mail gets some tweaking....it never seems to grab all messages from my POP account

pissedatpalm.co · Nov 21, 2002, 12:43 PM

Last year Apple introduced FCP 3 at DV Expo with much fanfare. I understand they have a large presence this year. I would think that show is far more appropriate for a release of FCP 4 than MacWorld. The dates are Dec. 9-11 at the LA Convention Center.

mnkeybsness · Nov 21, 2002, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iN8

Here's a couple:

Macfixit

Apple Discussion Boards

how about i fix your links for you...

Macfixit Apple Discussion Forums

your welcome

railthinner · Nov 21, 2002, 02:21 PM

I'd like to see some audio editing features built into itunes or a completely seperate "iaudio." That would be a huge plus for imovie users. Just a simple app with one or two track recording and editing,some basic AU plugins etc. then send audio to imovie or itunes.

Eventually you could even expand this to include surround editing when they get that built into the imac. (my personal fantasy)

iN8 · Nov 21, 2002, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mnkeybsness

how about i fix your links for you...

Macfixit Apple Discussion Forums

your welcome

Thanks. First time i tried that.

solvs · Nov 21, 2002, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by railthinner
I'd like to see some audio editing features built into itunes or a completely seperate "iaudio." That would be a huge plus for imovie users. Just a simple app with one or two track recording and editing,some basic AU plugins etc. then send audio to imovie or itunes.

Eventually you could even expand this to include surround editing when they get that built into the imac. (my personal fantasy)

Didn't Apple buy an Audio Editing app? They'll probably eventually come out with a Pro Audio app soon. I hope it's competitively priced. I dunno about iTunes 4 though, didn't they just release 3 a few months ago?

I would love an updated Appleworks though, 6 is getting kind of stale.

The possible new apps (i and Pro) do look very promising.

elliotay · Nov 21, 2002, 03:52 PM

If iTunes gets upgraded to incorporate AAC audio, then does this mean the iPod's will be able to play and store AAC audio? I remember a discussion a while back about whether or not the iPod will actually be able to play AACs with a firmware update. Some said yes some said no. I really hope I don't have to buy a new iPod just to get AAC integration.

bikertwin · Nov 21, 2002, 04:19 PM

What about AAC audio for Palm OS devices (Sony Clie, etc.)? Anyone know of Palm software to play AAC audio? I heard it was less processor intensive than MP3, so you'd think a simple software algorithm would do the trick.

railthinner · Nov 21, 2002, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by solvs

Didn't Apple buy an Audio Editing app? They'll probably eventually come out with a Pro Audio app soon. I hope it's competitively priced.

Yeah, they bought Emagic the makers of Logic (Platinum, gold, micro etc. and hardware) which is very much a pro app. In my opinion though, we haven't seen anything come of it that wouldn't have otherwise happened--YET. and I hope that's a bit yet. I've thought it's extremely peculiar they don't carry Logic in their stores since they own it. What's up with that? Especially since they carry Live, Reason, and others.

Blackcat · Nov 21, 2002, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tue12
I'd like to see iMovie 3 as 100% Cocoa.

Why?

Cocoa offers a different API, not a better API than Carbon. Rewriting perfectly good apps in Cocoa is a bit pointless really. Also, judging by apps like Mail, iCal and Fern run noticeably slower than ones done with Carbon.

Nov 21, 2002, 05:41 AM	#1
MacRumors macrumors bot Join Date: Apr 2001	Apple to Upgrade iApps in the Coming Months Over the past couple of years, Apple has been introducing more consumer applications, casually dubbed "iApps" to help promote the Mac as the center of your digital life. The application list has grown long and now includes: iTunes, iDVD, iMovie, iPhoto, iSync, and iCal. Professional versions of some of these applications also exist, which include DVD Studio Pro and Final Cut Pro. As previously reported, iTunes is set for a significant upgrade at or around MacWorld SanFrancisco with adoption of Rendezvous technology, as well as support for the AAC MPEG4 format. In the coming months, it appears all of Apple's iApps are due for revision. iDVD 3, iMovie 3 and iPhoto 2 (previous details), iSync GM, and iCal updates are expected. Apple is expected to increase integration between the iApps, provide international support as well as introduce a new Application in the coming months. In the meanwhile, Spymac reports that Final Cut Pro will also be upgraded to version 4 in January.

Nov 21, 2002, 06:19 AM	#2
joed macrumors regular Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dubai, UAE	Isn't iChat supposed to get an overhaul in 10.2.3? I also remember seeing somewhere that iSync beta actually has a expiry date, does anyone remember? I would guess that either or iMovie/iDVD will get an update at the DV Expo on December 10 (this has been the launching pad in the past for software updates, Final Cut Pro was updated at last years from memory). Also, RAILhead has hinted at updated iApps. __________________ Mactimeline Last edited by joed : Nov 21, 2002 at 06:24 AM.

Nov 21, 2002, 06:25 AM	#3
irmongoose macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sometimes Tokyo, sometimes California	Nice.... the two iApps I'm waiting for are iMovie 3 and iDVD 3... iMovie simply needs an upgrade, it's been too long since the initial release. In iDVD 3 I need to be able to make chapters. Other than that, I'm pretty much happy right now, but of course, we all love updates, don't we? What if Steve announces updates for ALL the iApps at MWSF? That'll be awesome.. but of course, it won't happen... irmongoose __________________ A Film and Artwork Portfolio

Nov 21, 2002, 07:44 AM	#4
Mr. Anderson Demi-God (Moderator) Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Back in VA	If we get FCP4 in january, I'm going to be very happy. I'm also hoping that some of the recent purchases of Apple get adapted for this next version. Very cool!!! D __________________ "Klaatu varada nikto!"

Nov 21, 2002, 09:42 AM	#5
iN8 macrumors regular Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Bahamas	I hope they fix the bug in iTunes where whenever you are playing a CD it pauses every few seconds and creates gaps in the song. Very annoying and makes iTunes useless for playing CDs. I thought it was just me but I have heard of many people that have the same problem, but no fix. __________________ ((( iN8 )))

Nov 21, 2002, 10:02 AM	#6
puffmarvin macrumors member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NY	iChat expires in February

Nov 21, 2002, 10:02 AM	#7
agent302 macrumors newbie Join Date: Aug 2001	What about Appleworks? It's by far the most stagnant of Apple's applications and gone the longest since a major upgrade (Appleworks 6 was released at MWSF 2000; it's been almost 3 years!)

Nov 21, 2002, 10:32 AM	#11
zedwards macrumors member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: France	What a prediction The headline might as well say: Apple may or may not do something by 2003. What sort of alogorithm is used to make such daring statements? And then to follow up with complaints and gripes about some irrelevant or imaginary issues that only pertains to .003 % of Mac users. Now I got that off my chest, I would love to see Appleworks kick some a$$.

Nov 21, 2002, 10:37 AM	#12
impierced macrumors regular Join Date: Sep 2002	Hmmm, wanna bet that Final Cut Pro 4 will be 100% Cocoa ... The rumor of OS X on AMD along with a beta of FCP is my rational.

Nov 21, 2002, 11:52 AM	#15
Tue12 macrumors member Join Date: May 2002	I'd like to see iMovie 3 as 100% Cocoa.

Nov 21, 2002, 11:55 AM	#16
dethl macrumors regular Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Las Cruces, NM	Apple will announce OS X Server for x86! (j/k!!!!) Really, I hope Mail gets some tweaking....it never seems to grab all messages from my POP account __________________ My Mac: 300Mhz B&W PM G3, Flashed Radeon 7000, 1GB RAM

Nov 21, 2002, 12:43 PM	#17
pissedatpalm.co macrumors newbie Join Date: Nov 2002	FCP 4 Last year Apple introduced FCP 3 at DV Expo with much fanfare. I understand they have a large presence this year. I would think that show is far more appropriate for a release of FCP 4 than MacWorld. The dates are Dec. 9-11 at the LA Convention Center.

Nov 21, 2002, 02:21 PM	#19
railthinner macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2002	I'd like to see some audio editing features built into itunes or a completely seperate "iaudio." That would be a huge plus for imovie users. Just a simple app with one or two track recording and editing,some basic AU plugins etc. then send audio to imovie or itunes. Eventually you could even expand this to include surround editing when they get that built into the imac. (my personal fantasy)

Nov 21, 2002, 03:52 PM	#22
elliotay macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2001	iTunes update If iTunes gets upgraded to incorporate AAC audio, then does this mean the iPod's will be able to play and store AAC audio? I remember a discussion a while back about whether or not the iPod will actually be able to play AACs with a firmware update. Some said yes some said no. I really hope I don't have to buy a new iPod just to get AAC integration.

Nov 21, 2002, 04:19 PM	#23
bikertwin macrumors regular Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: This Old House	AAC for Palm devices? What about AAC audio for Palm OS devices (Sony Clie, etc.)? Anyone know of Palm software to play AAC audio? I heard it was less processor intensive than MP3, so you'd think a simple software algorithm would do the trick.

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