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Old Oct 14, 2012, 02:38 PM   #1
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Thumbs up Got my first Emergency Alert on VzW iPhone 5

Otherwise known as CMAS... This was for a Tornado Warning.

It sounds like the tone you hear on TV when there's a test or warning, except that the tone cycles on and off about 5-7 times. It's fairly distinctive.

The alert is was displayed on the phone much the way notifications used to be shown (rounded edge box with text inside). It had a funky symbol in it...

The text was explaining that there was a Tornado Warning for my area, take cover and the duration of the warning and to "check local media."

What's pretty cool is that:

a) the warning came about 2 minutes before the weather hit

b) I got notified about 1 minute before the sirens went off.

So, there's your confirmation that CMAS is built into the iPhone 5 - at least on Verizon. Don't remember if ATT is participating in CMAS.

Don't look for the message to be in Messages - it's only in the Notification center.
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 03:18 PM   #2
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First I have heard of this.

Is it a feature which needs to be activated? Does it automatically take your location into account and send you alerts for your immediate area?
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 03:21 PM   #3
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That's pretty cool. Have to say I wasn't aware of this feature
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 03:53 PM   #4
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It's under settings, general, notifications, scroll to the bottom for government alerts.
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 03:53 PM   #5
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Otherwise known as CMAS... This was for a Tornado Warning.

It sounds like the tone you hear on TV when there's a test or warning, except that the tone cycles on and off about 5-7 times. It's fairly distinctive.

The alert is was displayed on the phone much the way notifications used to be shown (rounded edge box with text inside). It had a funky symbol in it...

The text was explaining that there was a Tornado Warning for my area, take cover and the duration of the warning and to "check local media."

What's pretty cool is that:

a) the warning came about 2 minutes before the weather hit

b) I got notified about 1 minute before the sirens went off.

So, there's your confirmation that CMAS is built into the iPhone 5 - at least on Verizon. Don't remember if ATT is participating in CMAS.

Don't look for the message to be in Messages - it's only in the Notification center.
did you have on location services?
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 03:55 PM   #6
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I wish you could set it to be less horribly obnoxious tho! If you have your phone on silent it keeps buzzing like a call, and if the ringer is on its a really loud tone! I got 2 on fri for Flash Flood warning in Santa Monica...and it was beautiful out all day. It was because it was pouring in the valley.

For those that can't find it...it is not available to AT&T customers. I know as a fact its on Verizon...I don't know about Sprint or T-Mobile.
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 03:55 PM   #7
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I got one too! A few days ago it was a flash flood warning. I was like WTF?!

Pretty neat feature though.
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 03:58 PM   #8
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Last week, both my husband (Droid Razr Maxx) and I (iPhone 4S) received Flash Flood warnings from Verizon. Very handy safety feature.
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 04:15 PM   #9
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I turned it off immediately haha

I got alerted on my 4s.

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Old Oct 14, 2012, 04:18 PM   #10
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Otherwise known as CMAS... This was for a Tornado Warning.

It sounds like the tone you hear on TV when there's a test or warning, except that the tone cycles on and off about 5-7 times. It's fairly distinctive.

The alert is was displayed on the phone much the way notifications used to be shown (rounded edge box with text inside). It had a funky symbol in it...

The text was explaining that there was a Tornado Warning for my area, take cover and the duration of the warning and to "check local media."

What's pretty cool is that:

a) the warning came about 2 minutes before the weather hit

b) I got notified about 1 minute before the sirens went off.

So, there's your confirmation that CMAS is built into the iPhone 5 - at least on Verizon. Don't remember if ATT is participating in CMAS.

Don't look for the message to be in Messages - it's only in the Notification center.
That is pretty cool!
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 04:44 PM   #11
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Not located in my AT&T iPhone 5. Luckily, I have the WeatherRadio app, which puts alerts in the Notification Center. Has notified me many times in the last 3 years.
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 04:48 PM   #12
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Sounds like that works very well. Hope it comes to the AT&T iPhone 5 soon! Get on the ball AT&T!!!

Btw, any screenshots, to see what they look like?
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 04:51 PM   #13
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Must be an iOS 6 thing. I've got that option in my 4S Settings.
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 05:17 PM   #14
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Those are gonna be fun to wake up to at 3 AM.

And yes, if your local administrator for these alerts is that obnoxious about it, it WILL happen. Comcast in my area participates in a similar program for their cable boxes, and I made the mistake of falling asleep once with the TV on. Ended up being awakened to a blaring Amber Alert at high volume in the middle of the night, that applied to a town maybe 50 miles away.

At least with the wireless alerts, you can opt out of them, though apparently that can be overridden at the federal executive (white house) level.
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 05:21 PM   #15
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Those are gonna be fun to wake up to at 3 AM.

And yes, if your local administrator for these alerts is that obnoxious about it, it WILL happen. Comcast in my area participates in a similar program for their cable boxes, and I made the mistake of falling asleep once with the TV on. Ended up being awakened to a blaring Amber Alert at high volume in the middle of the night, that applied to a town maybe 50 miles away.

At least with the wireless alerts, you can opt out of them, though apparently that can be overridden at the federal executive (white house) level.
I would very much like to be woken up at 3am if there's a dangerous tornado coming! Tornados don't care what time it is

Amber alerts though...
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 05:24 PM   #16
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Still nobody ever told me if you need location services on to get these alerts.
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 05:30 PM   #17
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Those are gonna be fun to wake up to at 3 AM.

And yes, if your local administrator for these alerts is that obnoxious about it, it WILL happen. Comcast in my area participates in a similar program for their cable boxes, and I made the mistake of falling asleep once with the TV on. Ended up being awakened to a blaring Amber Alert at high volume in the middle of the night, that applied to a town maybe 50 miles away.

At least with the wireless alerts, you can opt out of them, though apparently that can be overridden at the federal executive (white house) level.
I get these alerts in the middle of the nite (sometimes testing at 3:00 am) via Comcast and the volume is always the same as the TV show that they interrupt. The tone is extremely obnoxious, true, and gets your attention, which is the point after all. Maybe you had muted a loud volume & it overrode?

Those alerts usually come on when I'm watching something that I've spooled by pausing the DVR and the alert always kills that function. Missed the ending of many movies that way.

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Still nobody ever told me if you need location services on to get these alerts.
I would guess the answer is Yes. GPS would need to locate you WRT area of alert.
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 05:33 PM   #18
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Here is more technical information right from the FCC regarding the CMAS alerts.
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The FCC took a number of steps in facilitating the ability of consumers to receive emergency alerts through their wireless phones. In 2008, the Commission issued a series of orders adopting requirements for a Commercial Mobile Alert System (CMAS), a system by which commercial mobile service (CMS) providers may transmit emergency alerts to their subscribers, if they choose to do so.
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 05:35 PM   #19
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This is why you have the option to turn it off. If you don't want to hear it, disable it. The alerts are county based. The warning will go off if you are in the county that is being warned for, even if you are 20 miles away from where it is occurring and not actually inside the warning box. The National Weather Service issues polygon shaped warnings with coordinates points based on latitude/longitude. As of right now, the alert system on your phone is not capable of determining whether our not you are inside that warning polygon, only if you are in that county. So if the warning is out for the eastern part of your county, and you live in the western part, you will still get the alert.

Here is more info on this feature

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/com/weatherr.../wea.html#faq8
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 05:36 PM   #20
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I get these alerts in the middle of the nite (sometimes testing at 3:00 am) via Comcast and the volume is always the same as the TV show that they interrupt. The tone is extremely obnoxious, true, and gets your attention, which is the point after all. Maybe you had muted a loud volume & it overrode?

Those alerts usually come on when I'm watching something that I've spooled by pausing the DVR and the alert always kills that function. Missed the ending of many movies that way.

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I would guess the answer is Yes. GPS would need to locate you WRT area of alert.
That would kinda defeat the purpose because not everyone has location services turned on all the time, I don't because Saga will kill my battery like that.
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 05:52 PM   #21
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Still nobody ever told me if you need location services on to get these alerts.
No location services required to get these alerts. When there is a warning issued, all the phones capable of receiving alerts will sound based on which tower they are connected to.
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 05:57 PM   #22
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Where is this setting? I looked for it under Settings > General > Notifications > Alerts, but I don't have that setting.

I'm using an AT&T iPhone 5.
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 05:59 PM   #23
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Lots of... uhhh.. bad information in this thread - let me make some gentle corrections...

The way CMAS is designed is to take advantage of the fact that cell sites (and sectors within those cell sites) have a known coverage area.

When an alert needs to go out (Tornado Warning!), the agency will select where the warning needs to go out geographically. There's a server that takes that geographic area and maps it out to cells and sectors.

Then the warning is sent to those cells and sectors, and any phone with the mobile side of CMAS is supposed to emit the alarm.

This way, there's no location services needed - at all. Your phone is constantly monitoring for CMAS messages the way it's looking for texts and incoming calls. Now, it's a bit different in that this is a broadcast, sent to every phone in the sector.

Having said that, I'm sure there are limitations still in drawing the right areas for the alerts. It may be indeed be by county - but I know that's not where we'll wind up, it will be very targeted alerts. Why? Look up in this thread, people have been alerted for incidents that had nothing to do with them.

The designers of CMAS (I know some, dontcha know) are aware of this, and the ultimate goal is to only notify you if you're going to be impacted.
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 06:08 PM   #24
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I got one too! A few days ago it was a flash flood warning. I was like WTF?!

Pretty neat feature though.
Ha I got the same thing in Socal the other day too. I had no idea it was coming from my phone ha
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 06:16 PM   #25
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Sprint has this option. Under notifications for Emergency Alerts and Amber Alerts.
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