AMD and Apple Rumors Part II

MacRumors · Nov 21, 2002, 07:46 PM

MacBidouille has posted another AMD/Apple rumor. English Translation:

Quote:

I have just received some rumors you will like.
Of course they're from an anonymous yet reliable source:

- Apple will start using 64 bit CPU during the following months
- The processor will probably be made by AMD rather than by IBM, the former having a much higher production capacity.

I should be noted that AMD's 64 bit proc for PCs is almost ready.
The processor has the advantage of being compatible with 32 bit busses.
So an x86 proc in a Mac or a PPC by AMD?

Translation assistance provided by whocares, crassusad44 and pianojoe

beatle888 · Nov 21, 2002, 07:49 PM

my heads spinning with all this ****.
well, it looks as though apple is finally
looking at having multi suppliers.

bluecell · Nov 21, 2002, 07:53 PM

Good. It will be the healthiest move for Apple.

bluecell · Nov 21, 2002, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by beatle888
my heads spinning with all this ****.
well, it looks as though apple is finally
looking at having multi suppliers.

It's very doubtful that Apple will allow the Mac OS to operate on hardware from other vendors.

alex_ant · Nov 21, 2002, 07:57 PM

AMD has a much higher production capacity than IBM?!?!?

Whaaaaaaaaat?

g4pismo · Nov 21, 2002, 07:59 PM

If apple uses AMD, I wonder what that will do to the upgrade market. If it uses the *same*, exact chip, we may be able to stay up to date.. .. I still hope they choose IBM..

Catfish_Man · Nov 21, 2002, 08:00 PM

... AMD has a bigger production capacity than IBM??? What is this person smoking? AMD has capacity problems just making Athlons. IBM makes POWER4s, G3s, all the GameCube chips, 604es, etc... IBM has like 50 times the capacity of AMD ( an exaggeration, but not by that much. AMD has ONE fab).
Also, the Hammer doesn't use a memory bus, so it can't possibly be compatible with 32 bit busses (which, btw, no one uses anymore. They all use 64 bit busses).
This rumor is complete bull****.

zimv20 · Nov 21, 2002, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bluecell
It's very doubtful that Apple will allow the Mac OS to operate on hardware from other vendors.

regardless of who manufactures the main CPU, it will of course be in an Apple-branded enclosure, on an Apple mobo, etc.

one could take your statement quite literally and refute it easily: currently, the MacOS runs on hardware from IBM, Moto, ATI, etc.

mymemory · Nov 21, 2002, 08:05 PM

Would be possible to place one of those processors in my beloved Pismos?

g4pismo · Nov 21, 2002, 08:15 PM

No chance!

Hawthorne · Nov 21, 2002, 08:19 PM

What's been the track record of MacBidouille? Are they SpyMac-level lousy, or Naked Mole Rat level trusted?

thedude · Nov 21, 2002, 08:26 PM

is it possible for AMD to fab IBM chips to increase production of the 970's?

Pismo · Nov 21, 2002, 08:29 PM

Now, if AMD could build Apple a 64-bit PPC processor instead of an x86 processor, that would be awesome!

Mr Jobs · Nov 21, 2002, 08:42 PM

after comdex i thought you people might learn, but it seems not

vniow · Nov 21, 2002, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hawthorne
What's been the track record of MacBidouille? Are they SpyMac-level lousy, or Naked Mole Rat level trusted?

They had some pics of the new Powermac before anybody else did, but other than that I don't know.

wdlove · Nov 21, 2002, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pismo
Now, if AMD could build Apple a 64-bit PPC processor instead of an x86 processor, that would be awesome!

Can't wait!

blueBomber · Nov 21, 2002, 08:45 PM

in all honesty, either chip is going to be fast, but think of all the ppc apps that would have to be recompiled to work on an x86 mac..

I for one do not feel like buying Photoshop again...

Mr. Anderson · Nov 21, 2002, 08:49 PM

This would be such a departure for Apple, the biggest move its ever made. They would have to be so worried about being competitive that they'd to move off a PPC platform, wow.

I'll believe it when I see it.

Can anyone think of possible reasons for not having PPC and AMD chips (other than the obvious). Would this lock in the future of Macs for using AMD or could it just be a temporary option that will last for a year or more while the IBM Power4 gets up to speed.

There were the rumors of the AMD Macs that were shipped out to testers (welded shut).....

D

IJ Reilly · Nov 21, 2002, 08:54 PM

Time to slop the hogs again, I guess. But shouldn't they have gotten their fill yesterday?

adamcoop · Nov 21, 2002, 08:56 PM

For god's sake. Apple isn't going to drop the PPC. When are people going to realise that the x86 is at the end of it's life? And oh yeah, every software company that makes Mac software is just going to love to switch platforms after they've just put so much work into moving to OS X. Look how long that took!

More likely is that Apple has bought Motorola's share in the PPC group, and has recruited AMD as the second chip maker.

blueBomber · Nov 21, 2002, 08:57 PM

this rumor carries as much weight now as it ever has, none. This is all just wishful thinking by the PC community to have an option beisdes Windows as the premier desktop

LethalWolfe · Nov 21, 2002, 08:59 PM

I'd like to add something new, but I can't 'cause I already spent all my original thoughts in the 6 other threads about this...

Lethal

blueBomber · Nov 21, 2002, 09:01 PM

and also, why is it when people say that Apple has a macos that runs on x86, they say "yeah, I'd believe it", but if people said microsoft has a windows that runs on ppc, they would say your insane?

adamcoop · Nov 21, 2002, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by blueBomber
but if people said microsoft has a windows that runs on ppc, they would say your insane?

Windows NT 4.0 ran on IBM PPC machines, amongst others.

blueBomber · Nov 21, 2002, 09:04 PM

i'm speaking in a general population perception, but yes, you are correct

Nov 21, 2002, 07:59 PM	#6
g4pismo macrumors member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Atlanta	If apple uses AMD, I wonder what that will do to the upgrade market. If it uses the same, exact chip, we may be able to stay up to date.. .. I still hope they choose IBM.. __________________ octo-8800 \| mbp SR \| 2xg5 \| sony v1U \| RedRock M2 \| d300 \| RED #5532

Nov 21, 2002, 08:00 PM	#7
Catfish_Man macrumors 68020 Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Portland, OR	LOL (literally)... ... AMD has a bigger production capacity than IBM??? What is this person smoking? AMD has capacity problems just making Athlons. IBM makes POWER4s, G3s, all the GameCube chips, 604es, etc... IBM has like 50 times the capacity of AMD ( an exaggeration, but not by that much. AMD has ONE fab). Also, the Hammer doesn't use a memory bus, so it can't possibly be compatible with 32 bit busses (which, btw, no one uses anymore. They all use 64 bit busses). This rumor is complete bull****.

Nov 21, 2002, 08:15 PM	#10
g4pismo macrumors member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Atlanta	No chance! __________________ octo-8800 \| mbp SR \| 2xg5 \| sony v1U \| RedRock M2 \| d300 \| RED #5532

Nov 21, 2002, 08:19 PM	#11
Hawthorne macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: In front of my Mac	Quick question What's been the track record of MacBidouille? Are they SpyMac-level lousy, or Naked Mole Rat level trusted? __________________ Good posters copy their .sig. Great ones steal them.

Nov 21, 2002, 08:42 PM	#14
Mr Jobs macrumors regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: London, England	after comdex i thought you people might learn, but it seems not __________________ Functionless art is only tolerated vandalism

Nov 21, 2002, 07:49 PM	#2
beatle888 Banned Join Date: Feb 2002	my heads spinning with all this ****. well, it looks as though apple is finally looking at having multi suppliers.

Nov 21, 2002, 07:53 PM	#3
bluecell macrumors member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: cleveland:oh	Good. It will be the healthiest move for Apple.

Nov 21, 2002, 07:57 PM	#5
alex_ant Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: All up in your bidness	AMD has a much higher production capacity than IBM?!?!? Whaaaaaaaaat?

Nov 21, 2002, 08:05 PM	#9
mymemory Banned Join Date: May 2001 Location: Miami	Would be possible to place one of those processors in my beloved Pismos?

Nov 21, 2002, 08:26 PM	#12
thedude macrumors member Join Date: Sep 2001	is it possible for AMD to fab IBM chips to increase production of the 970's?

Nov 21, 2002, 08:29 PM	#13
Pismo macrumors 6502 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NH	Now, if AMD could build Apple a 64-bit PPC processor instead of an x86 processor, that would be awesome!

Nov 21, 2002, 08:45 PM	#17
blueBomber macrumors regular Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Minneapolis, MN	in all honesty, either chip is going to be fast, but think of all the ppc apps that would have to be recompiled to work on an x86 mac.. I for one do not feel like buying Photoshop again... __________________ "I am a ninja. My life is lonely and difficult." "Fry to the rain forest and save the nature!" "Yes Sir!" - a Neo Geo Classic

Nov 21, 2002, 08:49 PM	#18
Mr. Anderson Demi-God (Moderator) Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Back in VA	This would be such a departure for Apple, the biggest move its ever made. They would have to be so worried about being competitive that they'd to move off a PPC platform, wow. I'll believe it when I see it. Can anyone think of possible reasons for not having PPC and AMD chips (other than the obvious). Would this lock in the future of Macs for using AMD or could it just be a temporary option that will last for a year or more while the IBM Power4 gets up to speed. There were the rumors of the AMD Macs that were shipped out to testers (welded shut)..... D __________________ "Klaatu varada nikto!"

Nov 21, 2002, 08:54 PM	#19
IJ Reilly macrumors 603 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Palookaville	Time to slop the hogs again, I guess. But shouldn't they have gotten their fill yesterday?

Nov 21, 2002, 08:56 PM	#20
adamcoop macrumors regular Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canberra, Australia	For god's sake. Apple isn't going to drop the PPC. When are people going to realise that the x86 is at the end of it's life? And oh yeah, every software company that makes Mac software is just going to love to switch platforms after they've just put so much work into moving to OS X. Look how long that took! More likely is that Apple has bought Motorola's share in the PPC group, and has recruited AMD as the second chip maker.

Nov 21, 2002, 08:57 PM	#21
blueBomber macrumors regular Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Minneapolis, MN	this rumor carries as much weight now as it ever has, none. This is all just wishful thinking by the PC community to have an option beisdes Windows as the premier desktop __________________ "I am a ninja. My life is lonely and difficult." "Fry to the rain forest and save the nature!" "Yes Sir!" - a Neo Geo Classic

Nov 21, 2002, 08:59 PM	#22
LethalWolfe macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles	I'd like to add something new, but I can't 'cause I already spent all my original thoughts in the 6 other threads about this... Lethal

Nov 21, 2002, 09:01 PM	#23
blueBomber macrumors regular Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Minneapolis, MN	and also, why is it when people say that Apple has a macos that runs on x86, they say "yeah, I'd believe it", but if people said microsoft has a windows that runs on ppc, they would say your insane? __________________ "I am a ninja. My life is lonely and difficult." "Fry to the rain forest and save the nature!" "Yes Sir!" - a Neo Geo Classic

Nov 21, 2002, 09:04 PM	#25
blueBomber macrumors regular Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Minneapolis, MN	i'm speaking in a general population perception, but yes, you are correct __________________ "I am a ninja. My life is lonely and difficult." "Fry to the rain forest and save the nature!" "Yes Sir!" - a Neo Geo Classic

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