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Old Oct 19, 2012, 05:45 PM   #26
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Someone needs to tell Ive these things are WAY too fat. That is disgusting look how fat that is. Hoping it would be even thinner and perhaps just lose all ports besides the power of course so we could get it thinner. Total letdown.

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Actually the magsafe is bulky as well, just remove it, maybe use mats for charging or something? I don't know these Apple machines.... I can't even lift them.

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Old Oct 19, 2012, 05:46 PM   #27
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It's definitely the 13 inch. It doesn't have the speaker grills from the 15 inch model.

Well it may be the new Samsung

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Old Oct 19, 2012, 05:52 PM   #28
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No optical drive?
We don't know, check back after the 23rd...

Oh wait did you mean the MBPr13 or iMac, sorry one track mind here LOL

The MBPr13 will NOT have DVD if it's big brother is any guide. you'll either need an external one or get the non-retina MBP13.
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Old Oct 19, 2012, 05:52 PM   #29
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The Chinese post said no discrete gpu. Also interestingly said the thing was designed with a hdd instead of ssd initially.

Oh and he said that the battery design is weird and is something to look forward to.
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Old Oct 19, 2012, 05:53 PM   #30
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this guy doesn't know how to take pictures and why so freaking small????
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Old Oct 19, 2012, 05:53 PM   #31
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No optical drive?
Welcome to the future or as I like to call it, 2013.
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Old Oct 19, 2012, 05:53 PM   #32
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No optical drive?
Why would you expect it to have an optical drive?
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Old Oct 19, 2012, 05:53 PM   #33
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...it has less usable room (being 2x 1280x800 vs 1440x900 on the 13" Air). The 13" Air with i7/256GB/4GB RAM is $1599.
This is probably going to be the killer for most people that are looking to upgrade from an Air.
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Old Oct 19, 2012, 05:54 PM   #34
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No optical drive?
I'm pretty sure it won't have it.
C'mon, look at the 15" rMBP. Look at the batteries distribution. It's almost impossible.
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Old Oct 19, 2012, 05:55 PM   #35
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I've read some rumors pointing to an integratedGPU-only rMBP. And I think that will be the case.

Hey guys ┐Do you see those batteries? ┐how long do you think the battery-life will be?

And talking about batteries... This kind of batteries are glued to the chassis of the MBP ┐right? ┐Do you know if Apple has a battery replacement service for this kind of MacBook Pro? In the Genius bar, I mean.
Apple does have a battery replacement service at the genius bar.
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Old Oct 19, 2012, 05:55 PM   #36
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The only way I'm in on this is if there's a non-glossy screen option, which so far has never appeared on a 13". Retina's great unless you're in a spot where you can't control glare. Then it's a nightmare.

I might as well just break down and get a 15" matte but I'm still hopeful Apple will fix this glaring (geddit?) oversight. I can wait a few more days.
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Old Oct 19, 2012, 05:56 PM   #37
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This is probably going to be the killer for most people that are looking to upgrade from an Air.
If it has a discreet graphics chip in that package. I'll take two!

I just need discreet graphics in a smaller chassis if possible.

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I'm pretty sure it won't have it.
C'mon, look at the 15" rMBP. Look at the batteries distribution. It's almost impossible.
Exactly. An Optical drive doesn't seem likely. Hopefully, that extra space goes to discreet graphics.
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Old Oct 19, 2012, 05:56 PM   #38
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which makes it kind of a no-no for me if it stays that way
Right and you cannot set the resolution to scaled 1920X1200 then. Oh, wait, you can.

You could also download the setres command line tool to set it to the native resolution any time you wanted.

I've successfully run my rMBP in 2880X1800 mode.
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Old Oct 19, 2012, 05:58 PM   #39
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This is probably going to be the killer for most people that are looking to upgrade from an Air.
I have the 11.6" Air. If the Air doesn't get "Retina" treatment next year, I may well consider stepping up to the 13" rMBP. The usable screen space would be about the same.
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Old Oct 19, 2012, 05:59 PM   #40
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The only way I'm in on this is if there's a non-glossy screen option, which so far has never appeared on a 13". Retina's great unless you're in a spot where you can't control glare. Then it's a nightmare.

I might as well just break down and get a 15" matte but I'm still hopeful Apple will fix this glaring (geddit?) oversight. I can wait a few more days.
The new retina MBP displays have a special coating that reduce glare significantly.
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Old Oct 19, 2012, 05:59 PM   #41
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Why didn't apple just release this along with the 15"? Doesn't the 13" cMPB vastly outsell the 15"?
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Old Oct 19, 2012, 05:59 PM   #42
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I have the 11.6" Air. If the Air doesn't get "Retina" treatment next year, I may well consider stepping up to the 13" rMBP. The usable screen space would be about the same.
Fair enough. I was speaking of the 13" variety.
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Old Oct 19, 2012, 05:59 PM   #43
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No optical drive?
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Old Oct 19, 2012, 06:00 PM   #44
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Despite the fact it is leaked, it's handy to know what ports it has. Dual TB is clearly responsive to feedback. I bet the USB is, of course, a combo 3/2 port.

I am more curious if it has a SSD slot aka Air. I bet it does.

They released the 13" second BECAUSE it outsells the 15". They had to debug it.

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Old Oct 19, 2012, 06:00 PM   #45
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The only way I'm in on this is if there's a non-glossy screen option, which so far has never appeared on a 13". Retina's great unless you're in a spot where you can't control glare. Then it's a nightmare.

I might as well just break down and get a 15" matte but I'm still hopeful Apple will fix this glaring (geddit?) oversight. I can wait a few more days.
I started a thread asking for an anti-glare rMBP and was met with a LOT of negative feedback. I'm glad someone feels the same.
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Why didn't apple just release this along with the 15"? Doesn't the 13" cMPB vastly outsell the 15"?
Processing and thermal issues may be one reason. Another may be that they wanted to test with the 15" before deploying retina to the largest segment.
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Old Oct 19, 2012, 06:02 PM   #47
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No optical drive?
The days of Apple Laptops with optical drives are over.

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Processing and thermal issues may be one reason. Another may be that they wanted to test with the 15" before deploying retina to the largest segment.
Wouldn't the 13" screen have been easier to develop and manufacture than the 15" though?
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Old Oct 19, 2012, 06:03 PM   #48
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$although it has less usable room (being 2x 1280x800 vs 1440x900 on the 13" Air).
The 15" Retina MBP lets you choose how much 'usable room' you want. The default 2x mode is only one of five choices.

I would expect to see the same on the 13" model. Of course you sacrifice a tiny bit of the perfect retina sharpness by choosing one of those, but being able to choose on the fly without the horrible artifacts you get when running a lower density panel at non native res will be pretty nice

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Wouldn't the 13" screen have been easier to develop and manufacture than the 15" though?
Yes, but I would expect that the expected demand for the 13" model starting at $1699 will be higher than the 15" model starting at $2199.

The 15" panel will have slightly lower yields than the 13", but they also don't need to make as many of them.
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Old Oct 19, 2012, 06:05 PM   #50
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Hdmi

I do not understand the logic of including HDMI.

Apple did not provide HDMI when Apple TV was not that popular.

Now AppleTV, QuickSynch Technology easily mirrors your mac to the TV.

HDMI will be useful sometimes, but not a lot.
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