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Old Oct 23, 2012, 12:20 PM   #26
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Samsung isn't like GM. Samsung is more like the Royal Family of Russia.

Samsung controls EVERYTHING in Korea, especially, politicians, the court, media, press(news papers), and you name it.

Samsung owner's family (found and president of Samsung group) is invincible.

Have you watched American TV show called, Nikita? In the show, there's a fictional corporation of Russia that controls everything is Russia, and even having some of American politicians in their hands.

Samsung is very like it. Samsung is not a small Asian company. Samsung electronics that make Galaxy handsets is just a small part of giant Samsung Group. The Samsung Group is 10x bigger than Apple, MS, and Google.

I'm not kidding. Did you know Samsung builds missile, bombs, and tanks? Yes. Samsung has a government military contraction. They build weapons, ships, and possess oil company.

As a Korean, I feel it's silly when foreign people (especially Americans..) think Apple is to blame and Samsung is a victim.

They have no idea what Samsung is.

Samsung is not a company, They are government. They rule Korea.
^This guy isn't joking. Just check out Samsung's wikipedia page. Don't be ignorant.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 12:44 PM   #27
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Samsung isn't like GM. Samsung is more like the Royal Family of Russia.

Samsung controls EVERYTHING in Korea, especially, politicians, the court, media, press(news papers), and you name it.

Samsung owner's family (found and president of Samsung group) is invincible.

Have you watched American TV show called, Nikita? In the show, there's a fictional corporation of Russia that controls everything is Russia, and even having some of American politicians in their hands.

Samsung is very like it. Samsung is not a small Asian company. Samsung electronics that make Galaxy handsets is just a small part of giant Samsung Group. The Samsung Group is 10x bigger than Apple, MS, and Google.

I'm not kidding. Did you know Samsung builds missile, bombs, and tanks? Yes. Samsung has a government military contraction. They build weapons, ships, and possess oil company.

As a Korean, I feel it's silly when foreign people (especially Americans..) think Apple is to blame and Samsung is a victim.

They have no idea what Samsung is.

Samsung is not a company, They are government. They rule Korea.
Talk about hyperbola.

Yes Samsung Group is big, for a collection of corporations.

No it is not 10x bigger than Apple, Google and MS combined.

South Korea's GDP by Nation is roughly $1.2-$1.5 Trillion.

The GDP of Apple, Google and Microsoft is roughly: $270-$300 Billion in Yearly Revenues.

Samsung Group would need to be nearly double the GDP of South Korea to match your claims.

Give it a rest.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 12:49 PM   #28
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Blue light special on tin foil, aisle 3.
You're showing your total ignorance of Korean culture. This is one of the few times on MR when the circumstance isn't exaggerated in the slightest.

I know the vice-chairman of Hyundai, Chung Eui-sun, personally. Hyundai is smaller than Samsung, and even these people are practically their own nation-state.

Samsung Electronics is but one facet of the conglomerate- there is Samsung Defense (a huge arms maker), Samsung Construction, Samsung Heavy Industries (one of the world's largest shipbulders, second only to Hyundai) - it would be the 32nd biggest economy in the world, as a country.

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Old Oct 23, 2012, 06:38 PM   #29
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I think a lot of people are underestimating how much oriental countries value 'pride' and 'honour'.

Samsung is the General Motors of South Korea. When Apple goes around denigrating the name of the national conglomerate, it is obvious that the Koreans aren't going to like it one iota. Mr. Oh is just a victim of circumstance.
did you really just use the word "oriental"? wow.

and lex yu is pretty much spot on.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 06:56 PM   #30
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did you really just use the word "oriental"? wow.

and lex yu is pretty much spot on.
Okay, in the UK, we use 'oriental' to mean 'eastern' or 'from the east'.

From your reaction, I imagined I must have said something rude. I typed it into Spotlight and read this at the bottom of the dictionary page:

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USAGE The term Oriental, denoting a person from the Far East, is regarded as offensive by many Asians, esp. Asian Americans. It has many associations with European imperialism in Asia. Therefore, it has an out-of-date feel and tends to be associated with a rather offensive stereotype of the people and their customs as inscrutable and exotic. Asian and more specific terms such as East Asian, Chinese, and Japanese are preferred.
Obviously, I had no idea of this and wasn't trying to offend anyone or imply anything, I was just using the word as a geographical term, without racial connotation.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 07:07 PM   #31
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Did ANYONE see the word COMBINED in the original post? Didn't!


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Talk about hyperbola.

Yes Samsung Group is big, for a collection of corporations.

No it is not 10x bigger than Apple, Google and MS combined.

South Korea's GDP by Nation is roughly $1.2-$1.5 Trillion.

The GDP of Apple, Google and Microsoft is roughly: $270-$300 Billion in Yearly Revenues.

Samsung Group would need to be nearly double the GDP of South Korea to match your claims.

Give it a rest.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 07:08 PM   #32
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Okay, in the UK, we use 'oriental' to mean 'eastern' or 'from the east'.

From your reaction, I imagined I must have said something rude. I typed it into Spotlight and read this at the bottom of the dictionary page:



Obviously, I had no idea of this and wasn't trying to offend anyone or imply anything, I was just using the word as a geographical term, without racial connotation.
okay. well, now that you know, hopefully you'll refrain from using it in the future.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 07:15 PM   #33
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 08:08 PM   #34
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"Apple terminated the contract with Oh last week," Apple spokesman Steve Park said by telephone, late Tuesday.

"We acknowledge that there are many speculations surrounding Oh's contract termination. But we can't do more, it's just a simple fact," Park said.
What more does Apple wish it could do? Terminate Mr. Oh himself, not just his contract?

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Talk about hyperbola.
Hyperbole
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Old Oct 24, 2012, 12:11 AM   #35
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I think a lot of people are underestimating how much oriental countries value 'pride' and 'honour'.
Whereas I, here in my home in "the Orient", am always amused by adoration for the Hollywoodesque meme of Asians obsessed with "pride" and "honor". (Ooh, don't forget "face"! Complete the trifecta! ) As if the rest of the world somehow doesn't appreciate and feel and react to these same things.

But that's all quite a tangent; sorry. Back to Macs and Apple news and what not.
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Translation: He was a spy for Samsung.
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Old Oct 24, 2012, 01:46 AM   #37
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I love reading these clueless comments from people who view Asia as being populated entirely by Bond villains.
Of course Asia is populated by Bond-esque villains.... and Iron Man 3 villains too!

http://marvel.com/universe/Mandarin
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Old Oct 24, 2012, 01:59 AM   #38
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Samsung isn't like GM. Samsung is more like the Royal Family of Russia.

Samsung controls EVERYTHING in Korea, especially, politicians, the court, media, press(news papers), and you name it.

Samsung owner's family (found and president of Samsung group) is invincible.

Have you watched American TV show called, Nikita? In the show, there's a fictional corporation of Russia that controls everything is Russia, and even having some of American politicians in their hands.

Samsung is very like it. Samsung is not a small Asian company. Samsung electronics that make Galaxy handsets is just a small part of giant Samsung Group. The Samsung Group is 10x bigger than Apple, MS, and Google.

I'm not kidding. Did you know Samsung builds missile, bombs, and tanks? Yes. Samsung has a government military contraction. They build weapons, ships, and possess oil company.

As a Korean, I feel it's silly when foreign people (especially Americans..) think Apple is to blame and Samsung is a victim.

They have no idea what Samsung is.

Samsung is not a company, They are government. They rule Korea.

Yep I heard that Samsung also sells life insurance in Korea. And also manufactures certain hardware (military ordinance) for the South Korean military. This ordinance includes a machine-gun armed military sentry robot.

This is why Apple cannot ever expect to eclipse or "win" over Samsung in the Asian market. Samsung is simply too powerful, and the source of Samsung's power is 100% subsidized by the Republic of South Korea.

And as far the Asian market is concerned, Samsung has already given the victorious beatdown on the largest "local" Asian competitors -- such as Sony.

Apple, on the other hand, rarely gets any love or support from the US Government. If anything, the US Government always tries to cripple American businesses and tries harder and harder to tax them to death.
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Old Oct 24, 2012, 03:39 AM   #39
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I think a lot of people are underestimating how much oriental countries value 'pride' and 'honour'. Samsung is the General Motors of South Korea. When Apple goes around denigrating the name of the national conglomerate, it is obvious that the Koreans aren't going to like it one iota. Mr. Oh is just a victim of circumstance.
Are you implying that he wasn't putting his best foot forward for APPLE, because of being surrounded by negative public opinion against his employer?
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I love reading these clueless comments from people who view Asia as being populated entirely by Bond villains.
It isn't?
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Old Oct 24, 2012, 12:38 PM   #42
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Korea is an interesting market for Apple given its rivalry with Seoul-based Samsung, and Oh's removal is said to be a curious one given than the iPhone 5 launch in the country is said to be just days or weeks away.
Perhaps Apple didn't want to pay his performance bonus
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Old Oct 24, 2012, 04:06 PM   #43
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Stop it, your scaring me. This is 'South' Korea right?
I think so, but according to the Australians during the Olympics, they are "The 'Good' Koreans" (you know, as opposed to those other ones).
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Old Oct 25, 2012, 08:46 AM   #44
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There goes the source of all the Apple leaks.

Guess Tim was right when he said they would double down o nsecurity! LMAO
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Old Oct 25, 2012, 12:33 PM   #45
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did you really just use the word "oriental"? wow.
*Sigh*. This kind of stuff is so childish.

It's not a dirty word. It's just been considered inappropriate in the US to refer to people with that term. The preferred term for people is Asian but places, food, cultural things can all still be described with either.
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Old Oct 25, 2012, 09:35 PM   #46
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*Sigh*. This kind of stuff is so childish.

It's not a dirty word. It's just been considered inappropriate in the US to refer to people with that term. The preferred term for people is Asian but places, food, cultural things can all still be described with either.
a bit off topic so i apologize in advance.

you're right, it's not a dirty word but it is inappropriate or offensive to some degree, at least in my opinion. the person above didn't know that and explained himself/herself, to which i completely understand.

for me, the preferred term is always asian, even for places, food or culture. i can't imagine someone asking me "are you from an oriental country?" or "is kimchi an oriental food or just korean?" or "is bowing an oriental custom?"

anyways, back to the original topic, as a korean-american living in seoul, i would not be surprised at all if there was some sort of foul play involved.
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I don't know what connection your screen name has to your real name, but isn't Yu a Chinese last name?
Although Kim, Lee and Park are by far the most popular Korean surnames there are others including 'Yu'. Pronouncing Korean names in English can become problematic as the variations are numerous including South or North dialects.
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Perhaps Apple didn't want to pay his performance bonus
they already gave his bonus to Browett
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rumor was they removed him -as he was getting kickbacks from selling secrets to his brother in law who works for Samsung in Korea.

don't quote me on that but I have a friend that knows a friend of a sister of a girl that is having an affair with him this month.
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they already gave his bonus to Browett
Would that bonus be a boot up his @$$???
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