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Old Oct 23, 2012, 12:18 PM   #1
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Apple Announces Updated iBooks App With Continuous Scrolling




At today's media event, Apple announced an update to its iBooks app for the iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch. The updated iBooks app will feature a new continuous scrolling option, support for more than 40 languages including Korean and Japanese, and the ability to share passages from books via Facebook and Twitter.

The new version of iBooks will be available later today as a free download through the App Store. [Direct Link]

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Old Oct 23, 2012, 12:21 PM   #2
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STILL no app for mac, pc, or any other platform? **** that.

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Old Oct 23, 2012, 12:36 PM   #3
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STILL no app for mac, pc, or any other platform? **** that.
Yup. I'm never buying anything on iBooks until things work with my Macbook/ iTunes.

Not reading books on my iPhone. No way.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 12:43 PM   #4
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STILL no app for mac, pc, or any other platform? **** that.
Disappointed that the mods here aren't familiar with fsck, the command line file system check app.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fsck
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 01:20 PM   #5
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STILL no app for mac, pc, or any other platform? **** that.
Totally agree, i really think apple needs this feature, ibooks on mac !
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 01:23 PM   #6
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So far I'm annoyed at the new continuous scrolling feature. I hope there's an option for page turning. One of my favorite things about iBooks is how the reading experience is very similar to reading a real book, and I may switch back to the Kindle App :/
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 01:25 PM   #7
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So far I'm annoyed at the new continuous scrolling feature. I hope there's an option for page turning. One of my favorite things about iBooks is how the reading experience is very similar to reading a real book, and I may switch back to the Kindle App :/
The commercial of the iPad mini still showed the page turning, so it looks like an option, not a requirement.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 01:28 PM   #8
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STILL no app for mac, pc, or any other platform? **** that.
I really thought today was the day with the inclusion of "Retina Display" on their "best selling Mac", the new 13" MacBook Pro. I expected to hear how crisp, how clear, and gorgeous the text is on the new MacBook Pro for reading iBooks.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 01:29 PM   #9
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The commercial of the iPad mini still showed the page turning, so it looks like an option, not a requirement.
Oh! Excellent! I hope that's the case. I didn't see the commercials because I had to stick to the Engadget liveblog while I was in class rather than watch the livestream. Thanks!
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 01:34 PM   #10
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Dumb question but since I started the video of the event late...

What does continuous scrolling actually mean?
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 01:36 PM   #11
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still no refresh to the app according to the app store. 2:36pm est
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 01:46 PM   #12
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Dumb question but since I started the video of the event late...

What does continuous scrolling actually mean?
I think it means instead of "turning" the page in iBooks, you scroll down like when reading something on a web page.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 02:18 PM   #13
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Disappointed that the mods here aren't familiar with fsck, the command line file system check app.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fsck
Yeah right, you were just suggesting some file system management tools as a way to deal with the lack of cross-platform support for iBooks.
Nice try.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minced_oath
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 02:56 PM   #14
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Not reading books on my iPhone. No way.
I think you would be pleasantly surprised. It's really not as bad as you think, especially if you are reading in bed.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 03:04 PM   #15
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you were just suggesting some file system management tools
Nah, just pointing out it's not a profanity.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 03:22 PM   #16
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Apple is making a big mistake by not making iBooks available on OS X. Personally, I will never purchase a book from Apple unless it's readable on my iMac. I know quite a few students with MacBooks of varying ages who would love to have textbooks on their computers. There's no way that these students are going to purchase an iPad just to be able to buy books from Apple, they can barely afford the books themselves. Apple is missing out on a great opportunity.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 03:32 PM   #17
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STILL no app for mac, pc, or any other platform? **** that.
Like or not, it is because of DRM.

Every other eBook's DRM has been cracked and the tools are available on the web. Apple iBook is the only DRM not cracked and it is due to the fact that there isn't a OS X or Windows version.

Some have claimed to crack iBook's DRM in iTunes but the claims are dubious. I wouldn't try it as I don't want to corrupt my iTunes files. Even if the claims are correct, the next iTunes update plugs to holes.

Bottom line, as long as the publishers insist on DRM there will be NO OS X or Windows version of iBooks.

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Personally, I will never purchase a book from Apple unless it's readable on my iMac.
Agreed. I do not purchase books from Apple.

All of my eBooks have been purchased by me and I read them in iBooks on my iPad or iPhone. I read them in Calbre on OS X. (No pirated books)

To quote both the Bible and my Old Testament professor who stated all papers are due in his office by Dec. 20. However, he will not be in his office until January.

"Those who have ears hear."
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 03:49 PM   #18
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iBook is the only DRM not cracked and it is due to the fact that there isn't a OS X or Windows version.
I don't buy that.

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Bottom line, as long as the publishers insist on DRM there will be NO OS X or Windows version of iBooks.
I'm sure publishers are happy if it's not the only format not hacked, but if Apple is letting the publishers keep them from making the software available on other platforms, they are getting conned. If publishers really insisted on that, why are they still making their books available on the other hacked formats anyway? DRM is only as strong as it's weakest link, if a book is available in a format that can be hacked, also having it in an unhackable format doesn't make it any more secure.

Not to mention that Apple has already been through the DRM games with music and movies...and in both of those cases they made all that content playable on macs and PCs from day one.

The only explanation that seems plausible is that Apple thinks they can sell more iOS devices if iBooks is "exclusive". And there's no way they're getting that result.

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Old Oct 23, 2012, 04:30 PM   #19
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Where is iBooks for Mac? That's what I was hoping for :-/

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The only explanation that seems plausible is that Apple thinks they can sell more iOS devices if iBooks is "exclusive". And there's no way they're getting that result.
This is my suspicion too. Apple wants iBooks to be an iOS exclusive. But who wants to spend money on a book they can only read on one device, when there are so many cross-platform alternatives out there? It's sad when Kindle offers a better option for eBooks across all your Mac devices than Apple itself is willing to offer.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 05:03 PM   #20
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Continuous scrolling?! Wow. It's like a magical device that makes me believe I'm holding my Palm Zire 71 from 2003!

It's actually a decent option to have, it's just a bit embarrassing that they think that's worth making a fuss about in a big media event when half the Apple users on the planet are screaming 'where is my iBooks reader for OS X (and I'm all about Kindle until that happens)?'.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 05:17 PM   #21
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I don't buy that.
I don't want to get into a technical discussion on cracking DRM as it would be a violation of forum rules. It would suffice to say that having DRM built into an OS X or Windows program helps hackers. Kindle tried Apples method with their new Kindle USB only books. Still they got hacked.


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DRM is only as strong as it's weakest link, if a book is available in a format that can be hacked, also having it in an unhackable format doesn't make it any more secure.
Exactly!

Does iBooks have any exclusives? Textbooks!
Textbooks are a HUGE profit center for publishers and they will protect them.

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Not to mention that Apple has already been through the DRM games with music and movies...and in both of those cases they made all that content playable on macs and PCs from day one.
Yes and both have been hacked. UltraViolet will not allow HD movies to be downloaded on macs and pcs. So far they haven't been hacked.

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I am not agreeing with Apple or the publishers. DRM only hurts the honest customer!
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 05:29 PM   #22
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But that doesn't answer my question. If the publishers are stopping apple because of DRM, then why do they allow Amazon to do it?

Saying that there's an exclusive just because of textbooks (most of which were added to ibooks as exclusives much later after the initial ibooks release) is even more farfetched.

Honestly, the publishers would probably prefer cross platform because they'd sell more books. But they probably don't care that much since people who want cross platform are just going to buy them on Amazon anyway.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 05:31 PM   #23
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Like or not, it is because of DRM.
Which is particularly frustrating to publishing companies such as mine. When we submit our ebooks to the iBookstore, we ALWAYS choose the "No DRM" option. Yet, Apple still apparently slaps a layer of DRM onto everything it sells.

I don't even know why they bother to offer that option if it's not actually going to be honored.

As a publisher, I look forward to the day when all ebooks are DRM-free.
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But that doesn't answer my question. If the publishers are stopping apple because of DRM, then why do they allow Amazon to do it?

Saying that there's an exclusive just because of textbooks (most of which were added to ibooks as exclusives much later after the initial ibooks release) is even more farfetched.

Honestly, the publishers would probably prefer cross platform because they'd sell more books. But they probably don't care that much since people who want cross platform are just going to buy them on Amazon anyway.
Neither of us have inside info, so this is all speculation.

Textbooks came about one year after iBooks. It is not a stretch to guess they were planning on textbooks before the release of the original iPad.

If DRM holds for iBooks, textbook publishers gain a huge profit center including stopping students from buying used books.

Also to claim Apple isn't making an OS X iBooks due to forcing people to buy iPads is very weak as their customers will as you said, buy from Amazon.

For the record, I buy mostly from Amazon (90%) or Barnes and Noble. I have only purchased one from Apple. I read everything through iBooks on my iPad.

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One more thought.

iBooks isn't driving the purchase of iPads. Web browsing is the main driving factor.

I know many people with both an iPad and Kindle or iPad and Nook as they wouldn't buy books from Apple.
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