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Old Oct 26, 2012, 02:14 AM   #51
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Grams is a funny unit to deliver weight in, in my opinion. I know it works with a little finesse, it is just funny.
As opposed to what? Stones and ounces?
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 02:23 AM   #52
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Do people REALLY get paid to do this?
They do at Which, whose only reason for existence is to state the obvious in the guise of consumer advise for the old & terminally stupid.
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 02:54 AM   #53
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One US dollar bill = 1g approx

So, Phil should've said "the iPad mini weighs about $312 bucks"
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 03:50 AM   #54
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US Letter = 216 ◊ 279

UK / EU = A4 257 ◊ 364

Therefore: a UK pad is heavier than a US one...

Therefore: Who am I kidding, I don't care.... !?!?!

What I do like is they have put in a loaf of bread at 800g..... What if you have a Bread roll... Then Bread is lighter than a mini.

Most pointless article ever.
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 04:28 AM   #55
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But wait! If i drink from the coke can it gets lighter! And if i toast the bread it gets lighter. Mind you, if i then spread butter on the toast it gets heavier again, so...

Which scientician carried out these tests? They didn't take into account real-world usage.

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Old Oct 26, 2012, 06:31 AM   #56
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If a single sheet of paper were folded in half 50 times, (assuming it was large enough) then it would be about a hundred million miles thick. I find this to be a more interesting fact than whether a pad of paper weighs more or less than a mac mini. But that's the kinda guy I am.

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But wait! If i drink from the coke can it gets lighter! And if i toast the bread it gets lighter. Mind you, if i then spread butter on the toast it gets heavier again, so...

Which scientician carried out these tests? They didn't take into account real-world usage.

Also if you get a packet of cigarettes and take one out and throw it away, then the pack magically becomes a cigarette lighter.
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 08:34 AM   #57
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the only reason they chose pad of paper is because it close to ipad
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 08:44 AM   #58
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Am I the only one who picked up on the fact that the graphic is highly misleading?

Look at where the Kindle needle is and how far down the scale is and then look at where the needle is for the loaf of bread and how low the scale is for that. By my calculations the scale should be 4.76x lower and the need that much farther rotated.

To really show how light the iPad Mini is compared to it's big brother, the iPad 4 should be much farther down...not just an incremental step.
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 08:59 AM   #59
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I don't know... I kind of like it when people are held to account for what they say. If they claim it's a certain weight, it should be that weight. If not, then they should get - at least - a gentle ridiculing.

In this case, it seems they're pretty close.
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 09:27 AM   #60
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simples really, it's the old Imperial vs Metric confusion.

You see in dear 'ol USofA, we are still stuck using Foolscap pads of paper, whereas in Blighty and the Union of Europe they use A4 pads. Now any dumb cluck will know that a nice Foolscap pad weighs a lot more than an A4 pad.

Job done, now "Which"....go back to testing fridges and toasters, that's where you shine.
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 10:03 AM   #61
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I want an iPad Maxi. A MaxiPad. Larger screen. And pen sensitivity for drawing and painting.
MaxiPad. Now with Extra Absorbency. Not sure women would appreciate the pen sensitivity for drawing and painting. And if it did, it would be with red ink.
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 10:55 AM   #62
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The only way to this properly is weigh every pad of paper they can, 3000-5000 different ones should do, then take the average weight to compare to the mini.

Ive just realised this still wouldn't be good enough as paper is much more sensitive to environmental conditions. They would need to take the pads round the world, weighing them in many different countries and take the average from that too.

honestly the way which have gone about this is terrible, anyone would think its completely unimportant and pointless! Clearly this is a very important issue that needs proper testing.

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Old Oct 26, 2012, 11:06 AM   #63
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Do people REALLY get paid to do this?
Yep. People also get paid to do something else, and instead complain on the internet about the weight of a pad of paper while probably being paid to do that something else.
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 11:47 AM   #64
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This is why we need the downvote button back. The fact that one of the top-rated comments comes from somebody who clearly didn't even read the article is just sad.
Of course I did; but this is irrelevant, as you can't seem to understand my strictly-logical point anyway.
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 11:54 AM   #65
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US Letter = 216 ◊ 279

UK / EU = A4 257 ◊ 364

Therefore: a UK pad is heavier than a US one...

Therefore: Who am I kidding, I don't care.... !?!?!

What I do like is they have put in a loaf of bread at 800g..... What if you have a Bread roll... Then Bread is lighter than a mini.

Most pointless article ever.
Well, actually... No. According to http://www.papersizes.org/a-paper-sizes.htm

US Letter: 216mm ◊ 279mm (60,2640 square mm)
A4: 210mm x 297mm (62,370 square mm)

Now, on a page-for-page basis, all else being equal, that would still make the A4 page heavier. But, the simple fact is that pads come in varying page counts, with 80, 100, 120, 150, and 200 being some of the more common sizes available.

As they said in their review, they weren't using the thickest pad they could find, and their pad didn't have the (metal) spiral binding pictured against the iPad mini for the comparative weight comment. Given the options there, simply going one common page count up and using a spiral-bound pad would more than cover the weight difference.
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 12:04 PM   #66
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What the *** is going on here
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 01:53 PM   #67
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2013 headlines forecast: Phil Schiller, now lighter and thinner than last years model!
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 03:46 PM   #68
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I'm currently at work. So, yes.
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 06:56 PM   #69
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Of course I did; but this is irrelevant, as you can't seem to understand my strictly-logical point anyway.
To quote the article...

"So there it is; the iPad mini isn't quite as light as a pad of paper - at least our non-spiraled softback pad. There are certainly pads of paper that are heavier so Phil Schiller's claim that it's as light as a pad of paper is about right."

Nowhere in there does it say the iPad is "lighter" than a pad of paper. There's nothing logical about misquoting your sources.
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 07:56 PM   #70
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So let me understand this:

- The pad of paper used in the example weighs 226g;

- the irrelevant iPad Mini weighs 312g;

- therefore, the iPad Mini is "lighter" than a pad of paper?

These guys need some lessons in logic, really...what a pathetic article.
Did you read the article? It clearly states "So there it is; the iPad mini isnít quite as light as a pad of paper Ė at least our non-spiraled softback pad."

It is the MacRumors forum that has incorrectly labelled the article as saying 312g is lighter than 226g.

Perhaps the lesson here is read the article before commenting on it.
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 12:04 AM   #71
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Wow, that Kindle is pretty light!
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 02:26 AM   #72
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OMG, what is wrong with everyone? Seriously...I saw it more as an offhand remark and people are actually going around analyzing all this?

You know what, he also said it was beautiful. Why not get a chart of beautiful items and compare them also. "Oh he CLAIMS this is beautiful! Well, here are several items that are much more beautiful than the iPad mini! How DARE he say this!"

Come on...
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Ooooh. That's some hard hitting research. Thank you Which! EU cops will take it from here.
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 07:39 AM   #74
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Ugh you beat me to it

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But wait! If i drink from the coke can it gets lighter! And if i toast the bread it gets lighter. Mind you, if i then spread butter on the toast it gets heavier again, so...

Which scientician carried out these tests? They didn't take into account real-world usage.

Add to that whether or not a dropped iPad always lands screen-side down and you've got some serious scientifical testing to carry out.
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 08:01 AM   #75
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Did you read the article? It clearly states "So there it is; the iPad mini isn’t quite as light as a pad of paper – at least our non-spiraled softback pad."

It is the MacRumors forum that has incorrectly labelled the article as saying 312g is lighter than 226g.

Perhaps the lesson here is read the article before commenting on it.
The article was posted by MacRumors (commenting on someone else's already-flawed considerations) and my logical conclusions were drawn on the basis of the whole thing...is this so hard to understand?
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