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Old Oct 27, 2012, 05:48 AM   #1
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2012 Mini owners... have you tried any games out yet?

I'm eager to see how the hd4000 performs on games like StarCraft 2, League of Legends and Counter Strike Source/TF2!

Post your experiences, good or bad, and your spec here please!

I'm waiting for some money going into my account, which should be very shortly! Then off to get my Mini the same day!

Thanks guys :-) hope you're all enjoying the new Mini!
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 06:25 AM   #2
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Very interested in this too! Too bad my Mini is said to ship on october 31st..
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 06:52 AM   #3
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Not tried out anything demanding, but on a HD4000/2.3GHz quad i7/10GB RAM/1TB HDD I was getting 40FPS on Minecraft at 1920x1200.
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 06:57 AM   #4
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Not tried out anything demanding, but on a HD4000/2.3GHz quad i7/10GB RAM/1TB HDD I was getting 40FPS on Minecraft at 1920x1200.
Without a graphic mod? Not too impressive, although you can regulate the fps quite good with the visibility setting.
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 06:59 AM   #5
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will a base mini run skyrim or la noire at any decent speed? not worried about the graphics settings
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 07:05 AM   #6
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Will built in graphics in Mini 2012 be enough for HD video playback?
Considering to buy as media center.

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Old Oct 27, 2012, 07:13 AM   #7
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My late 2010 MBA runs CS:GO, of course not on the highest settings but I guess it will be no problem for the 2012 Mac Mini.

@Trtrmitya my MBA also runs HD video without any problem, I think you are really underestimating the power of the current Mac Mini ...
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 07:15 AM   #8
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My late 2010 MBA runs CS:GO, of course not on the highest settings but I guess it will be no problem for the 2021 Mac Mini.
I would hope for it not to have a problem. After all, it would have been released 11 years after your MBA :P
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 07:19 AM   #9
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Will built in graphics in Mini 2012 be enough for HD video playback?
Considering to buy as media center.

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Are you serious?? Even three year old Minis have no problem playing back HD video ...
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 07:28 AM   #10
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Are you serious?? Even three year old Minis have no problem playing back HD video ...
Before they had external Graphics card.
2012 model lacks one.
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 07:30 AM   #11
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Didn't get my Mini to play games on so I have no clue how it runs games. I did watch some 1080p streaming video and it was perfect.
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 07:52 AM   #12
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Before they had external Graphics card.
2012 model lacks one.
And that automatically means it's bad? Don't get this logic. While it may be a tiny little bit slower than the 6630M used in the 2011 Mac Mini, it's much faster than any previous Mini, even on par with the dedicated (not external ...) video card in the 2009 MacBook Pros ...
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 07:55 AM   #13
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And that automatically means it's bad? Don't get this logic. While it may be a tiny little bit slower than the 6630M used in the 2011 Mac Mini, it's much faster than any previous Mini, even on par with the dedicated (not external ...) video card in the 2009 MacBook Pros ...
The benchmarks I have seen seem decent enough for the 4000 don't you think?

And the fact you get more vram than before must be a good thing!

Very, very excited to see what the mini can do! If it runs the games I play... I may very well replace the tower with a second monitor!
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 11:39 AM   #14
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I played a couple games last night. I have the quad i7 2.3, with 4gbs of RAM at the moment (waiting on that crucial order). All my test were pretty slapstick, and I only measured perceived performance.

Torchlight- No problems, all settings at max on 1080p resolution. Ran like a champ, but it isn't a very demanding game.

Portal- Pushed it up to max, everything seemed fine. Will do some more test with it when I get home from work today. I'm not sure If I had AA on or not.

The Witcher- 1080p, medium/low settings. Kinda choppy in some of the cut scenes. Actual game world was mostly 30+ fps, but I had never played it before and didn't get far. Worth noting that this game is just a Windows game wrapped in wine, so that may have hit the performance.

Minecraft- 1080p, Fancy graphics, medium draw distance. Ran great, not noticeable drops other than while world rendering and loading into memory.

As usual, most games get a pretty significant boost running in Windows, and if you are a bootcamp user, you can probably expect a 5-10 fps boost.

That said, native OS X gaming on the HD4000 isn't the hell-scape you would assume by reading this forum. Casual gaming is more than doable, and should not be written off completely. The types of games I play, most notably things from humble indie bundles, run very well. Furthermore, less demanding 3d games should run reasonably at lower settings. If you're into emulators, the quad i7 2.3 will crunch numbers like no other, giving a very accurate replication of old consoles. It would be fun to see if this machine could run a ps2 emulator in bootcamp, as CPU is usually the primary indication for emulator performance. I'm curious to try more games, and I have a couple on download right now.
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 12:24 PM   #15
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Before they had external Graphics card.
2012 model lacks one.
Video playback is primarily CPU driven and has little to do with the graphics card.

It also isn't THAT taxing on the system just for playback, I watch HD video on my 3 1/2 year old aluminum 13" MacBook.
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 12:27 PM   #16
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Will built in graphics in Mini 2012 be enough for HD video playback?
Considering to buy as media center.

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Old Oct 27, 2012, 12:50 PM   #17
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Would be great to hear from anyone playing something like skyrim on the dual core, as that's what I am thinking of getting. I know it's not a gaming machine, but would be good to know how it does

Cheers to those who have given some detail already
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 03:25 PM   #18
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hope the new sim city plays ok!!
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 03:31 PM   #19
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Put me down as another curious Mac user. I was willing to buy the mini right after the media event, but when I heard about the gpu, I figured I'd wait to see how it does with games. I'm not a hardcore gamer, but I do like to play few games like portal 2, bioshock 2, and the like. I've just been playing bioshock 2 on my late 2011 MBP 15" with 12GB hooked up to my 1080p tv, and it runs perfectly with everything on high, but it is an older game. I would like to use the mini so I don't need to go through the trouble of hooking up the laptop to the tv, and with a new bioshock game just around the corner, I'd like to know how it will handle it. Probably not well, but I could be surprised...
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 03:34 PM   #20
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Just wanted to chime my two bits in on the video rendering comment that was said to be done by the CPU. Wrong on this front.

The design of the Intel chipset with an integrated gpu and/or the discreet; all have a portion of the chipset to accelerate any on screen video playback. These chip sets all incorporate hardware based decompression of video. (AVI, mpg, DIXV, mp4 etc)

The weight of an onboard vs a discreet for usage is usually going to be driven predominantly by games or software that needs to leverage gpu acceleration.

Now the flip side. I had the old late 09 macmini with the dedicated nvideo gpu. Using 1920x1280 was slow running at this resolution for anything like web browsing large spreadsheet work and other graphic intensive applications. I currently have the mid 2011 i5 macmini with the integrated intel gpu. Stunning difference in performance for screen based rendering.

just my two bits
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 03:37 PM   #21
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Without a graphic mod? Not too impressive, although you can regulate the fps quite good with the visibility setting.
As a total newbie to Minecraft, I have no idea what a graphic mod is.
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 03:37 PM   #22
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And that automatically means it's bad? Don't get this logic. While it may be a tiny little bit slower than the 6630M used in the 2011 Mac Mini, it's much faster than any previous Mini, even on par with the dedicated (not external ...) video card in the 2009 MacBook Pros ...
Slower? that ain't good. The Fans really kick in on the old model when doing anything graphics intensive. Why does Apple have to jerk us around on just about every product release these days?
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 03:39 PM   #23
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No. I don't game on mac desktops.
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 03:51 PM   #24
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No. I don't game on mac desktops.
Well, sadly, there isn't a lot of gaming to do in osx. There are some really good games, but most games are on windows first, and if we are lucky, the come to osx. That's why I keep a windows 7 bootcamp partition on my macs. Although, I only want to use it when there is no other option, and that usually means games. It's a hassle to use, and the Games for Windows Live thing is such a piece of junk, it lost my saved games twice on two different games. Anyway, lets hope there are more game releases for osx in the future!
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 04:21 PM   #25
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Well, sadly, there isn't a lot of gaming to do in osx. There are some really good games, but most games are on windows first, and if we are lucky, the come to osx. That's why I keep a windows 7 bootcamp partition on my macs. Although, I only want to use it when there is no other option, and that usually means games. It's a hassle to use, and the Games for Windows Live thing is such a piece of junk, it lost my saved games twice on two different games. Anyway, lets hope there are more game releases for osx in the future!
and even when there is a mac version the system requirements are always steeper.

my mac gaming is football manager and civ...anything else is in bootcamp but id rather bootcamp from a mac than have just a pc
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