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Old Oct 29, 2012, 09:52 PM   #126
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This is getting juicy!
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Old Oct 29, 2012, 09:54 PM   #127
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If iPhone 6 or 7 has GS3 size screen all will be forgiven and I will come back to the iPhone.
No...

4.5" max. I seriously don't want a 4.8" to 5.5" phone.

PHONE!

PHONE!!!
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Old Oct 29, 2012, 09:55 PM   #128
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skeuomorphism isn't getting Scott out.

Over-promise-under-delivery of Siri and Maps is.
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Old Oct 29, 2012, 09:55 PM   #129
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Let's face it, the Metro...um modern UI is clean, unified and typographically more mature
I hope this is a joke.
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Old Oct 29, 2012, 09:56 PM   #130
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I'm initially skeptical about Ive doing iOS, and I'm definitely not excited about seeing more of him in those awful product spots (what we did, was....to completely....just rethink what it _means_ to....make a computer).

But I'll be happy if the main apps and UI get cleaned up.
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Old Oct 29, 2012, 09:57 PM   #131
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In a surprise move, beleaguered Apple has hired back Scott Forstall as interim CEO and purchased his mobile OS company. Forstall promises to hold the position until a CEO can be found. Apple fans rejoice in the streets like it is the second coming.
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Old Oct 29, 2012, 10:00 PM   #132
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LOL ^^ deja vu ?! That would be pretty amazing. Don't think Cook is a Sculley though, let's not panic yet.
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Old Oct 29, 2012, 10:01 PM   #133
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I'm MORE interested in the core API's, structure, and core of what we know to be iOS in current form to be overhauled!
I think the core OS is fine (Core Data, Core Video, Core Animation, Core Audio, etc).

iOS 5 had more core OS "developer" features than any previous iOS. iOS 6 didn't seem to contain much of either (consumer or developer), which makes you wonder wtf the iOS team was doing this year.

The springboard is where Apple needs to focus their attention. While easy to use, it's become a relic compared to other mobile operating systems.

I feel like Forstall (and likely others) have been holding the springboard back for fear it won't be user friendly if it contains live tiles, widgets, etc.

The springboard is the face of iOS. It needs an overhaul.

My suggestions? Get rid of the multitasking bar. Add expose. Add dashboard widgets. Add stacks and animated icons. Notification Center needs to be reorganized and more useful (I know a lot of iPhone users that don't even know it exists). Kill the linen background.

By the way, with all the Forstall bashing (and I've joined in too), he should get a lot of credit for the creation of both Mac OS X and iOS. He even was a lead designer on the the Aqua interface.

Regarding Aqua, I do like what has happened with Aqua over the years. With Leopard, it became much more mature and modern (and Forstall reportedly managed that Leopard team). I would love to see that come to iOS.

I feel like iOS in where Mac OS X was at 10.3 or 10.4 and needs a 10.5/10.6 to push it on into the next five years.

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Old Oct 29, 2012, 10:04 PM   #134
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Good riddance to skeuomorphism.
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Old Oct 29, 2012, 10:04 PM   #135
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apple is going to shiit. smh
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Old Oct 29, 2012, 10:05 PM   #136
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Good Bye Forstall

Apple will be better without you. Maybe don't be such a Richard at your next job.
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Old Oct 29, 2012, 10:05 PM   #137
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Their inner world is starting to crack.

Soon they will have no choice but to recycle the same tired old Mobile OS with shiny new hardware. (Oh , nevermind....they already do that)

Well

Soon they will get so full of themselves that they damage relationships with all their manufacturing partners and service providers ( Oh wait , I forgot about Samsung and Google )

Hmmmm, trouble in paradise ?
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Old Oct 29, 2012, 10:06 PM   #138
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I'm just hoping Ive can handle the additional workload. I'd hate to see a good guy like him burn out.
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Old Oct 29, 2012, 10:06 PM   #139
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Old Oct 29, 2012, 10:07 PM   #140
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apple is going to shiit. smh
No, they aren't. People do not stop buying products and sell their stock based on the departure of executives. Going by what people have been saying, these departures are a positive.
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Old Oct 29, 2012, 10:10 PM   #141
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Whhaaatt? you can't be serious. What makes you think Ive can do make a better ios? Did he have any background in that area?
Did Scott, before iOS?
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Old Oct 29, 2012, 10:10 PM   #142
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Old Oct 29, 2012, 10:10 PM   #143
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I also posted this in the thread that originally broke this news....


I'm not too thrilled that Forstall is gone as I actually like him. I thought he had great charisma at the keynotes and enjoyed his stage presence, it kind of reminded me of Steve. However, I wasn't entirely a fan of where iOS was headed so I'm glad that responsibility has fallen to the OS X team.

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In addition, I definitely was not a fan of skeuomorphism. It was a terrible idea even if Steve Jobs himself supported it. So I'll be glad to see the UI both in OS X and iOS changed to where they make sense on the device.

Lastly, with Forstall gone, will we see Apple change "OS X" back to "Mac OS X" or will they stick with the strategy to unify OS X and iOS but in a much more tasteful manner?
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Old Oct 29, 2012, 10:11 PM   #144
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Ah, internal company politics. I have no idea if it was right or wrong, but I do know that this man will have a much larger income than I whether he's at Apple or not. I do hope we get back to more reasonable GUI design, though.
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Old Oct 29, 2012, 10:12 PM   #145
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Apple as a company has been an embarrassment lately.
Yep. Totally embarrassing being the most valuable company on the planet.
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Old Oct 29, 2012, 10:12 PM   #146
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No one deserves to be kicked to the street when they have done so much.

I hope Scott lands well and ends up where he can be better appreciated.
He has millions and millions of dollars...

He can retire now...

If hes bored he can start his own company, his brother works at Microsoft, hell even RIM is a possibility.
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Old Oct 29, 2012, 10:12 PM   #147
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I don't think Steve would have apologized about Maps, either.

I think he would have fiercely defended it and stated why it's way far beyond anything google maps was at its inception and that it's only going to get better.

My guess is Forstall felt the same way.

Either way, I'm looking forward to Ive UIs.

I think Steve would have seen that it wasn't up to his standards and it would have been another year before it was released.
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Old Oct 29, 2012, 10:12 PM   #148
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The end of apple is near!

Down goes Frazier!

Can't wait to jump to android or windows
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Old Oct 29, 2012, 10:13 PM   #149
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Bets that Jony will now begin doing in-person presentations at events?
He has already ... at a smaller event; not WWDC.
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Old Oct 29, 2012, 10:13 PM   #150
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Who thinks Google hires him?
The guy is basically being described as a cancer within Apple's locker room, with a me-first attitude. Why wouldn't anyone willingly take that on? Besides, it's not like Google's at a loss for new ideas, more so Apple, in fact.
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