iTunes 11 Delayed, Will Arrive By End of November - Page 6

wilhoitm · Oct 30, 2012, 04:10 PM

Did Jonathan Ive design the UI for the New iTunes?

It looks like it!

jwsmiths · Oct 30, 2012, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Zamiar

first sorry for my bad english

I think itunes 11 is same itunes 10 with many problems and low speed and other problems, all changes are just graphical
I think apple shocked when windows 8 released and know they are thinking to Competition with great windows 8 features(html5) that they never can create something like that.
why apple said this(itunes will arrive november) in last day? why they didn't say it in past days?

No offense but Windows 8 wasn't a "shock" - it's features had been demo'd long in advance and Apple was aware of what was coming out of Redmond.

iTunes has long been a graphical front-end for an HTML based store and an SQLite iTunes database so they are very much capable of creating the HTML5 that you mentioned.

What happened most likely was that with this management shake-up yesterday small, but important, changes need to be made to satisfy the new management.

stol · Oct 30, 2012, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaktor5

Siri.

Which is still in beta...

I meant major iTunes releases.

macbd · Oct 30, 2012, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Shrink

Just one more vote for getting it as right as possible first crack out of the box, instead of a buggy mess pushed out to meet a schedule.

It's just a month, folks.

Life does go on...

Agreed. And ever since iCloud (& iTunes Match), I use it less and less. Mostly just make sure it's up and running for Apple TV streaming.

ipedro · Oct 30, 2012, 04:12 PM

So they found out today that it was going to take another month?? They're making the same mistake again. The label says "November" instead of "End of November". People who see it in November will think "any day now" and when it's November 30th and for some reason it's not ready, Apple will switch it again?
They're not fostering a lot of good will with these moves. Sure delay it if its not ready but don't string people along. They had to have know it wouldn't be ready last week or even before then. Why wait til the last possible moment to gather more and more disappointment from those waiting?

Reaktor5 · Oct 30, 2012, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by stol

I meant major iTunes releases.

10.3 was a public beta which had iTunes in the cloud.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/07/i...load-we-go-ha/

somethingelsefl · Oct 30, 2012, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by realeric

No. No iOS 6.0.1, No iTunes 11, No new Safari for Windows. Why?

Apple is forgetting that they are a "software company that also makes beautiful hardware" (that's a Steve Jobs quote).

Zunjine · Oct 30, 2012, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by egeek84

dammit i was really looking forward to this

Well, think about it this way, you can now look forward to it for a little longer!

Reaktor5 · Oct 30, 2012, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ipedro

So they found out today that it was going to take another month?? They're making the same mistake again. The label says "November" instead of "End of November". People who see it in November will think "any day now" and when it's November 30th and for some reason it's not ready, Apple will switch it again?
They're not fostering a lot of good will with these moves. Sure delay it if its not ready but don't string people along. They had to have know it wouldn't be ready last week or even before then. Why wait til the last possible moment to gather more and more disappointment from those waiting?

I think a mention during the iPad mini keynote would have eased the burn a little.

pedromartins · Oct 30, 2012, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rileyes

Ha. Who cares.

iTunes has never been slick and fast, and it never will. Apple does not know how to make software.

Dramatically simpler and cleaner interface. Just like iOS, that means less control for the end user. Enjoy, children.

Maybe this will hurt you, but you need a reality check:

Apple is also the biggest software company (at least on Earth). (iWork, iLife, Aperture, Final Cut, Motion, Compressor, MainStage, Logic Pro, iBooks Author, xCode, iTunes and everything related to it, Mountain Lion, iOS, iCloud, Safari, Quicktime, mail, etc.). They for sure know about software. Maybe in Mars we have a bigger software company.. Maybe.

monaarts · Oct 30, 2012, 04:18 PM

When is the last time Apple delayed something? I dont know if this is good (because they are changing more stuff maybe, like icloud movies or video iTunes Match?) or if it is bad because they don't typically do this kind of stuff (turning into Microsoft, are we?)

cgk.emu · Oct 30, 2012, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by komodrone

Nooooo

Noooo what? You'd rather have a crap product earlier, and then whine about it here when it's not everything you hoped it would be?? Come on now. Be a little more forward thinking.

Reaktor5 · Oct 30, 2012, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by monaarts

When is the last time Apple delayed something? I dont know if this is good (because they are changing more stuff maybe, like icloud movies or video iTunes Match?) or if it is bad because they don't typically do this kind of stuff (turning into Microsoft, are we?)

I think Match was the last thing they delayed.

It's not so much the delaying that's irritating, it's giving a deadline for people to get amped up about and missing it.

Chrjy · Oct 30, 2012, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rileyes

Ha. Who cares.
iTunes has never been slick and fast, and it never will. Apple does not know how to make software.

Along with 'When was the last innovative thing Apple did?' post the other day by someone, this is next in line for the funniest thing I've heard all year!

cgk.emu · Oct 30, 2012, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by monaarts

When is the last time Apple delayed something? I dont know if this is good (because they are changing more stuff maybe, like icloud movies or video iTunes Match?) or if it is bad because they don't typically do this kind of stuff (turning into Microsoft, are we?)

Because delaying a product makes them Microsoft? I don't see the connection. Every company delays things now and again.

monaarts · Oct 30, 2012, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cgk.emu

Because delaying a product makes them Microsoft? I don't see the connection. Every company delays things now and again.

I know... I was being dramatic

I love

still!

milo · Oct 30, 2012, 04:22 PM

I do see one downside to this particular delay.

iTunes match was first released November 14 last year. So people who got it right away have their year subscriptions expire the 14th.

Personally, I'm hoping the new iTunes brings some improvement to Match (yes, I know it's mostly server side, but still...). October release would have meant a bit of time with the new app to decide whether to renew. If it releases late November, the early Match adopters will have to decide whether to renew or let it lapse before the new app is out.

Other than that I'm fine with it coming out later, but the Match thing is a disappointment.

malnar · Oct 30, 2012, 04:23 PM

Well, I'm pretty annoyed because I was counting on getting iTunes 11 with its new, supposedly improved Match controls now, before my subscription is to be renewed on Nov. 14, so I can see if Match is finally going to work right or if I need to just give up on it all together. Would love to see that we're going to get an extension to give the new Match a chance to correct all the MANY mistakes it has made over the past year (incorrect matches, mainly, but missing artwork, songs that won't download, and other irritations).

tech4all · Oct 30, 2012, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rileyes

iTunes has never been slick and fast, and it never will. Apple does not know how to make software.

Odd. My seems to be fine. I must be doing something right.

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Originally Posted by rileyes

Dramatically simpler and cleaner interface. Just like iOS, that means less control for the end user. Enjoy, children.

I plan to.

k12g3 · Oct 30, 2012, 04:25 PM

I read this as..."We didn't get the rights to our streaming radio service like we had planned on, so hopefully we get them by the end of November."

SeattleMoose · Oct 30, 2012, 04:26 PM

Reputation is everything. If you release a piece of crap early EVERYONE will NEVER FORGET that "x" is a piece of crap. The penalty for being late is much more forgiving. If you are late but "x" works pretty well nobody will remember "x" was late. They will only know they like it. So yes, please NO MORE HALF BAKED PRODUCTS!!!

Peace · Oct 30, 2012, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by k12g3

I read this as..."We didn't get the rights to our streaming radio service like we had planned on, so hopefully we get them by the end of November."

That may be part of it.

Reaktor5 · Oct 30, 2012, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by k12g3

I read this as..."We didn't get the rights to our streaming radio service like we had planned on, so hopefully we get them by the end of November."

I feel like they would have launched it anyway with support from smaller labels to prove it would be a success and the larger labels would have hopped on board.

Anuba · Oct 30, 2012, 04:30 PM

"Forstall...!"

tann · Oct 30, 2012, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by rileyes

iTunes has never been slick and fast, and it never will. Apple does not know how to make software.

I think Mountain Lion runs beautifully! As well as a lot of their other software, it's just iTunes (and sometimes iPhoto) that annoy me!

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monaarts macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Kennesaw, GA	When is the last time Apple delayed something? I dont know if this is good (because they are changing more stuff maybe, like icloud movies or video iTunes Match?) or if it is bad because they don't typically do this kind of stuff (turning into Microsoft, are we?) __________________ 27" 2011 iMac \| iPhone 4S \| iPad Wi-Fi 32GB \| 2 x TV 3 \| iPod Nano Watch
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malnar macrumors 6502a Join Date: Aug 2008	Well, I'm pretty annoyed because I was counting on getting iTunes 11 with its new, supposedly improved Match controls now, before my subscription is to be renewed on Nov. 14, so I can see if Match is finally going to work right or if I need to just give up on it all together. Would love to see that we're going to get an extension to give the new Match a chance to correct all the MANY mistakes it has made over the past year (incorrect matches, mainly, but missing artwork, songs that won't download, and other irritations). __________________ "You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother." --Albert Einstein
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Oct 30, 2012, 04:25 PM	#145
k12g3 macrumors member Join Date: Jun 2009	I read this as..."We didn't get the rights to our streaming radio service like we had planned on, so hopefully we get them by the end of November." __________________ iMac Core i5 iPhone 4S 16GB AppleTV 2G
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SeattleMoose macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Der Wald	Good Judgement Reputation is everything. If you release a piece of crap early EVERYONE will NEVER FORGET that "x" is a piece of crap. The penalty for being late is much more forgiving. If you are late but "x" works pretty well nobody will remember "x" was late. They will only know they like it. So yes, please NO MORE HALF BAKED PRODUCTS!!!
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ipedro macrumors 68000 Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Toronto, ON	So they found out today that it was going to take another month?? They're making the same mistake again. The label says "November" instead of "End of November". People who see it in November will think "any day now" and when it's November 30th and for some reason it's not ready, Apple will switch it again? They're not fostering a lot of good will with these moves. Sure delay it if its not ready but don't string people along. They had to have know it wouldn't be ready last week or even before then. Why wait til the last possible moment to gather more and more disappointment from those waiting?
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milo macrumors 603 Join Date: Sep 2003	I do see one downside to this particular delay. iTunes match was first released November 14 last year. So people who got it right away have their year subscriptions expire the 14th. Personally, I'm hoping the new iTunes brings some improvement to Match (yes, I know it's mostly server side, but still...). October release would have meant a bit of time with the new app to decide whether to renew. If it releases late November, the early Match adopters will have to decide whether to renew or let it lapse before the new app is out. Other than that I'm fine with it coming out later, but the Match thing is a disappointment.
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