Go Back   MacRumors Forums > News and Article Discussion > MacRumors.com News Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old Oct 31, 2012, 04:04 PM   #126
hspace
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by darkslide29 View Post
2) Is the iPad Mini (and iPad 2) really a low res display? I swore I watched 720p movies on my iPad 2. While they may have not been 720p exactly, I wouldn't have called it low res.
To be able to claim display of HD quality video, your display must be capable of 720p format without down-scaling. That is a 1280×720 resolution.

The iPad 2 (& iPad Mini) has a 1024x768 display, where the 720p content is downscaled and letter-boxed to 1024x576.

To compare, the Kindle Fire HD 7 has a 1280x800 display, so it qualifies as HD.
hspace is offline   3 Reply With Quote
Old Oct 31, 2012, 04:06 PM   #127
APlotdevice
macrumors 68020
 
APlotdevice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by nutmac View Post
While some folks might be happy stereo speakers, I find the feature to be dubious at best.

For one thing, iPad mini has both speakers on the bottom when held in portrait orientation. For video, you will be holding it in landscape orientation, at which point you won't be getting stereo sound anyway.

Secondly, the distance between each speaker is so close that you won't get much stereo separation to begin with.
This is why I think the feature is more for textbooks than anything else. The distance between speakers should be adequate when held up close.
__________________
There is something deeply wrong with a society more offended by breasts than by entrails.
Pebble SmartWatch | iPhone 5c | 11" Macbook Air '13 | HTPC | TV | Numerous Old Consoles
APlotdevice is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Oct 31, 2012, 04:08 PM   #128
milo
macrumors 603
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Fusion View Post
Exactly.
It sounded like he was saying the MINI is EDTV resolution. 720 has always been classified as HDTV although companies selling 1080 have tried to sell it as "real" HD although that's a fairly meaningless term.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Fusion View Post
The ATSC is a bunch of pushovers just like the ITU, they've caved to big business and now both "standards" are anything but standards. Who's drinking the corporate kool-aid now?
So now a standards body can't set standards and you're declaring them yourself? If you're going to claim that 720 isn't HD, you're going to need to link some sort of evidence to back that up, otherwise you're making up your own terminology.
milo is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Oct 31, 2012, 04:09 PM   #129
Romadet
macrumors newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Wow

unbelievable, they startet selling ipad mini in Poland http://twitpic.com/b95asv
Romadet is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Oct 31, 2012, 04:10 PM   #130
macs4nw
macrumors 68020
 
macs4nw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: On Safari…..
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bitgod View Post
I was just about the pull the trigger on a 4th gen, and while doing so mentioned I wish they'd friggen put stereo speakers in the maxi. Now I am so friffen mad at Apple. I'm sure that'll be a new feature in the 5th gen. God I can't wait for this company to crash and burn. Ok, gotta order the 4th gen now. sigh.
Make up your mind, please!

You WILL survive.
macs4nw is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Oct 31, 2012, 04:13 PM   #131
jmcrutch
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Fusion View Post
False. The ATSC is a bunch of pushovers just like the ITU, they've caved to big business and now both "standards" are anything but standards. Who's drinking the corporate kool-aid now?

Why don't you just define HD and tell the rest of the world your definition and then we'll all follow it. Sound okay?
__________________
In order of purchase: iPod Mini 4GB, iPhone 8GB, iPod Shuffle 1GB, 13" MacBookPro, iPhone 4 32GB, AppleTV2, iPod Classic 160GB, iPod Shuffle 2GB, iPhone 4S 64GB, iPhone 5 64GB, iPad Mini WiFi 32GB
jmcrutch is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Oct 31, 2012, 04:14 PM   #132
chr1s60
macrumors 65816
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: California
Quote:
Originally Posted by Judas1 View Post
Stereo speakers? What the hell. Don't people watch movies in landscape, and the sound is still coming from one side only?
Could be worse. Like the Xoom, which had the speaker on the back so if you held it in your hands it covered the speaker and if you had it propped up against something to watch a movie of show you could hear nothing.
__________________
15" MacBook Pro - White iPad mini - iPod Classic - iPod Nano - White/Silver iPhone 6+
chr1s60 is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Oct 31, 2012, 04:15 PM   #133
jmcrutch
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
EDTV has never been a standard. It was a marketing term used by TV manufacturers who sold TVs that could not display at least a full 720p signal. I think Philips sold a lot of EDTVs in the late 90s.
__________________
In order of purchase: iPod Mini 4GB, iPhone 8GB, iPod Shuffle 1GB, 13" MacBookPro, iPhone 4 32GB, AppleTV2, iPod Classic 160GB, iPod Shuffle 2GB, iPhone 4S 64GB, iPhone 5 64GB, iPad Mini WiFi 32GB
jmcrutch is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Oct 31, 2012, 04:15 PM   #134
turtlez
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
they should do a benchmark comparison too :P
turtlez is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Oct 31, 2012, 04:19 PM   #135
BvizioN
macrumors 68020
 
BvizioN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Manchester, UK
Send a message via Skype™ to BvizioN
Quote:
Originally Posted by Judas1 View Post
I was specifically talking about the screen, not about the speakers. But with respect to the speakers, when you compare the fire's speaker configuration to the mini, one is obviously stereo, the other is just barely technically stereo. Enjoy poking at Amazon for only barely be inaccurate.
Am not, as a matter of fact i love Amazon, i really do. Not their tablets though. Anyway, which tablet have a better sterio speakers is irrelevant to the subject. Technically and aparently iPad mini does have sterio speakers, something Amazon (by honest mistake i believe) was claiming it doesn't. I just would have thought that they would have waited to get the facts right before rushing with the penis size contest type of adverts.
__________________
Born Albanian.
BvizioN is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Oct 31, 2012, 04:19 PM   #136
Taz Mangus
macrumors 65816
 
Taz Mangus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodimus Prime View Post
false advertising and a mistake are two different things. Apple did do false adverting and lied.
The fact that Apple not state whether it is stereo or a mono speaker is exactly that, nothing more. Yes, please do try to turn it into something it is not. You do like to show your hatred for Apple whenever possible, don't you.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodimus Prime View Post
Amazon on the other hand made an honest mistake and I can easily see way because of how close together the speakers on not like you can hear any stereo sound out of them.
Now let's see how long Amazon leaves that "mistake" on their website. Of course if they decide to leave it as is, I guess *you* will claim it is another honest mistake on Amazon's part.
__________________
'11 27" iMac Quad Core 3.4GHz, 16GB, 1TB HD, 256GB SSD; '09 17" MacBook Pro, 2.8GHz, 8GB, 500GB HD; '09 MacMini, 2.0GHz, 4GB, 320GB HD; '13 32GB iPhone 5; '13 64GB LTE iPad Air; '13 32GB iPod Touch 5
Taz Mangus is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Oct 31, 2012, 04:20 PM   #137
Mr Fusion
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: May 2007
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmcrutch View Post
Why don't you just define HD and tell the rest of the world your definition and then we'll all follow it. Sound okay?
Works for me.

1080p. BAM!

Mr Fusion is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Oct 31, 2012, 04:20 PM   #138
AppleInMyBlood
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by bbeagle View Post
That's false advertising, Amazon!

Maybe you should have to put out an ad on your website saying that you lied.
That's golden!!!
AppleInMyBlood is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Oct 31, 2012, 04:22 PM   #139
Undecided
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
They haven't taken it down - see here.

Also, it's a bit misleading for them to quote their product price that includes ads.
Undecided is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Oct 31, 2012, 04:23 PM   #140
Bensalama21
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by driceman View Post
Hahaha fail Amazon...

Now they just need a better display and processor in the Mini and I'll take a look... Not much point in "upgrading" from my iPad 2 for a product with the same resolution and chip.
An ipad 4 came out too... I don't think the ipad mini was intended for owners of current iPads..
__________________
4 iMacs, iPhone 4, iPhone 4s, 2 iPod Touch 4th gen, 2 iPod touch 2nd gen, 2 2010 macbook pro 8gb ram, 3 iPad 2 (64gb), 64gb ipad (3rd Gen) New Macbook Air 13",
Bensalama21 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Oct 31, 2012, 04:24 PM   #141
jmcrutch
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Fusion View Post
Works for me.

1080p. BAM!

At what refresh rate?
__________________
In order of purchase: iPod Mini 4GB, iPhone 8GB, iPod Shuffle 1GB, 13" MacBookPro, iPhone 4 32GB, AppleTV2, iPod Classic 160GB, iPod Shuffle 2GB, iPhone 4S 64GB, iPhone 5 64GB, iPad Mini WiFi 32GB
jmcrutch is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Oct 31, 2012, 04:24 PM   #142
Mr Fusion
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: May 2007
Quote:
Originally Posted by milo View Post
It sounded like he was saying the MINI is EDTV resolution. 720 has always been classified as HDTV although companies selling 1080 have tried to sell it as "real" HD although that's a fairly meaningless term.
Yeah I think so too. I think "ED" was dropped in fear of lawsuits by Viagra/Cialis.

Quote:
So now a standards body can't set standards and you're declaring them yourself? If you're going to claim that 720 isn't HD, you're going to need to link some sort of evidence to back that up, otherwise you're making up your own terminology.
Standards bodies can't be trusted anymore, they're not impartial. I am. Just goes to show if you want something done right, you gotta do it yourself.
Mr Fusion is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Oct 31, 2012, 04:26 PM   #143
jmcrutch
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Fusion View Post
Yeah I think so too. I think "ED" was dropped in fear of lawsuits by Viagra/Cialis.



Standards bodies can't be trusted anymore, they're not impartial. I am. Just goes to show if you want something done right, you gotta do it yourself.
No one is impartial. No one. We are inherently filled with bias. It's how we make decisions.
__________________
In order of purchase: iPod Mini 4GB, iPhone 8GB, iPod Shuffle 1GB, 13" MacBookPro, iPhone 4 32GB, AppleTV2, iPod Classic 160GB, iPod Shuffle 2GB, iPhone 4S 64GB, iPhone 5 64GB, iPad Mini WiFi 32GB
jmcrutch is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Oct 31, 2012, 04:28 PM   #144
Mr Fusion
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: May 2007
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmcrutch View Post
At what refresh rate?
Hmm.. I think it has a lot to do with the content. 24 frames for movies and tv shows, 50/60 frames minimum for sports. For everything else that an iPad does I'd want the maximum refresh rate possible.
Mr Fusion is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Oct 31, 2012, 04:28 PM   #145
WilliamLondon
macrumors 68000
 
WilliamLondon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Quote:
Originally Posted by Small White Car View Post
There is something wrong when you can put the same number of pixels in a 4" Android phone as in a 70" TV and give them both the same name.

At that point the term has lost all meaning.
Yep, exactly this, but we live in label-land, where labels are what matters, not the concepts behind them. You could be 1 pixel off and therefore it wouldn't be HD, and since people judge based on labels only, a viewing 1 pixel fewer would be *hugely* inferior, since it's not "HD". Silly, really.
WilliamLondon is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Oct 31, 2012, 04:29 PM   #146
Mr Fusion
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: May 2007
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmcrutch View Post
"No one is impartial. No one. We are inherently filled with bias. It's how we make decisions."

- Biased person
There. Fixed that for ya.
Mr Fusion is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Oct 31, 2012, 04:31 PM   #147
locust76
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
They should have bullet points for "is an iPad" and "is not an iPad" and see how that works out...
locust76 is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Oct 31, 2012, 04:31 PM   #148
Pipper99
macrumors 65816
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Wow, just think of the amazing spatial imaging those stereo speakers will provide.
Pipper99 is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Oct 31, 2012, 04:31 PM   #149
sinsin07
macrumors 68020
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodimus Prime View Post
false advertising and a mistake are two different things. Apple did do false adverting and lied.

Amazon on the other hand made an honest mistake and I can easily see way because of how close together the speakers on not like you can hear any stereo sound out of them.
Wow...Amazon apologist. What a rare breed.
sinsin07 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Oct 31, 2012, 04:31 PM   #150
jmcrutch
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Fusion View Post
Hmm.. I think it has a lot to do with the content. 24 frames for movies and tv shows, 50/60 frames minimum for sports. For everything else that an iPad does I'd want the maximum refresh rate possible.
I'm okay with that answer. :::: approval stamped ::::
__________________
In order of purchase: iPod Mini 4GB, iPhone 8GB, iPod Shuffle 1GB, 13" MacBookPro, iPhone 4 32GB, AppleTV2, iPod Classic 160GB, iPod Shuffle 2GB, iPhone 4S 64GB, iPhone 5 64GB, iPad Mini WiFi 32GB
jmcrutch is offline   1 Reply With Quote

Reply
MacRumors Forums > News and Article Discussion > MacRumors.com News Discussion

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Similar Threads
thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
All iPads: iPad Air and Mini 2: stereo speakers or mono? Sensamic iPad 8 Dec 18, 2013 10:40 PM
iPad: iPad 5 will possibly have stereo speakers snow755 iPad 25 Jan 14, 2013 03:32 PM
(UPDATE: Confirmed) Stereo Speakers on iPad Mini? SR71 iPad 57 Jan 1, 2013 07:36 PM
iPad: iPad 4th gen - stereo speakers? js0lari iPad 4 Nov 12, 2012 07:36 PM
iPad Mini Teardown Reveals Samsung Display Driver, A5 Chip, Stereo Speakers MacRumors MacRumors.com News Discussion 100 Nov 8, 2012 09:36 PM

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:16 AM.

Mac Rumors | Mac | iPhone | iPhone Game Reviews | iPhone Apps

Mobile Version | Fixed | Fluid | Fluid HD
Copyright 2002-2013, MacRumors.com, LLC