Register FAQ / Rules Forum Spy Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Go Back   MacRumors Forums > Apple Hardware > Notebooks > MacBook Air

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old Nov 4, 2012, 03:06 PM   #1
coldjeanzzz
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
MBA 128 SSD, 8 GB RAM. How long should it last?

I have been looking into buying a Mac lately and for my needs a MBA seems to be perfect. However, I want this laptop to last a very long time (4 years+) and I am concerned the 4 GB of RAM will be obsolete soon so I feel 8 GB would be better.

The total cost after a student discount and tax comes out to $1300+ which is a lot since I usually never spend more than $600. With that said I only want to make this purchase if people can verify the lifespan of these items. Like at what point will I start to notice a slow down in the performance (I do take pretty good care of my electronics)? For a $1300 laptop I would like for it to be solid for a decent amount of time rather than start to get bogged down after only 1.5-2 years.
coldjeanzzz is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 4, 2012, 03:08 PM   #2
Beanoir
macrumors 6502a
 
Beanoir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: 51 degrees North
Quote:
Originally Posted by coldjeanzzz View Post
I have been looking into buying a Mac lately and for my needs a MBA seems to be perfect. However, I want this laptop to last a very long time (4 years+) and I am concerned the 4 GB of RAM will be obsolete soon so I feel 8 GB would be better.

The total cost after a student discount and tax comes out to $1300+ which is a lot since I usually never spend more than $600. With that said I only want to make this purchase if people can verify the lifespan of these items. Like at what point will I start to notice a slow down in the performance (I do take pretty good care of my electronics)? For a $1300 laptop I would like for it to be solid for a decent amount of time rather than start to get bogged down after only 1.5-2 years.
Easy last 4 years...unless you plan on dropping it off a cliff, then it won't.

My MacMini (albeit slightly upgraded) has lasted me nearly 7 years now...
__________________
iPhone5 32Gb-iPad Mini 64Gb
iMac 27" 3.2Ghz i3 / 16Gb / 1Tb
MacMini 2.33GHz / 128Gb SSD / 20" ACD
Macbook Air 11.6" 1.6Ghz i5 / 4Gb / 128Gb
Beanoir is offline   3 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 4, 2012, 04:30 PM   #3
Crazy Badger
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Scotland
My girlfriend is still running my old 2007 MBA with 2GB RAM and aftermarket SSD for standard OSX (10.7.5) and Office apps.

Can't see why you wouldn't get 5+ years for a current MBA.
__________________
2013 MBA 13/1.7/8 2011 iMac 27/2.7/32 iPhone5 iPad rMini & 2 aTV2 & 3 16TB FreeNAS
Canon 5D Mk2, 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS Mk1, 24-105mm f/4 L IS, 50mm f/1.4
Crazy Badger is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 4, 2012, 04:38 PM   #4
coldjeanzzz
Thread Starter
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazy Badger View Post
My girlfriend is still running my old 2007 MBA with 2GB RAM and aftermarket SSD for standard OSX (10.7.5) and Office apps.

Can't see why you wouldn't get 5+ years for a current MBA.
How is the bootup/shut down time and battery life on it compared to when you first got it?
coldjeanzzz is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 4, 2012, 04:46 PM   #5
Mrbobb
macrumors 601
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
A expensive Mac doesn't last longer than a budget pc. Apple has no magic.

The propensity for a long lasting laptop depends on whether u tend to always want run the latest, but more power consuming, software.
Mrbobb is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 4, 2012, 04:53 PM   #6
Lukewarmwinner
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by coldjeanzzz View Post
How is the bootup/shut down time and battery life on it compared to when you first got it?
It should be the same but compared to today's standard it would be slower. Also, if I remember correct that model used the normal HDD, and not SSD - making it a lot slower. Please correct me if I'm wrong

Point being; it's really up to you how long it'll last. It will get slower compared to new models, but still usable for a long time. I've got Macs from '07 still going strong. So if you won't upgrade in 4 years, then it'll last 4 years (of course depending on treatment and forth)
Lukewarmwinner is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 4, 2012, 04:58 PM   #7
coldjeanzzz
Thread Starter
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrbobb View Post
A expensive Mac doesn't last longer than a budget pc. Apple has no magic.

The propensity for a long lasting laptop depends on whether u tend to always want run the latest, but more power consuming, software.
A budget PC I purchased 3 years ago experienced huge drops in speed in just a span of 1 year, battery life chopped from 3 hours to 1 hour in about 1.5 years, and the bootup time went from about 1 minute to damn near 3 minutes. In fact it got so bad I had to switch to Linux because Windows was just functioning like a piece of crap. I'm not an idiot when it comes to computers either. I never had any problems with viruses/malware and always managed applications properly so that unnecessary ones wouldn't be slowing down the system. I never tried to run the latest or greatest software either, just a simple task like opening google chrome was a pain in the ass. I'm just convinced these crappy laptops that get shelved out for a cheaper price are not worth it anymore.
coldjeanzzz is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 4, 2012, 05:10 PM   #8
Beanoir
macrumors 6502a
 
Beanoir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: 51 degrees North
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrbobb View Post
A expensive Mac doesn't last longer than a budget pc. Apple has no magic.

The propensity for a long lasting laptop depends on whether u tend to always want run the latest, but more power consuming, software.
I beg to differ, a PC slows down to a snails pace after 12 months, and it requires so much maintenance to keep it going, which some argue is part and parcel of the experience. I on the other hand don't expect that kind of requirement in a modern computer and thats why an Apple will last for far longer.

This isn't about what is best (Apple vs. PC) but from my experience of running windows PCs for work and Mac's at home for so many years, i've been through so much more grief with the PCs.
__________________
iPhone5 32Gb-iPad Mini 64Gb
iMac 27" 3.2Ghz i3 / 16Gb / 1Tb
MacMini 2.33GHz / 128Gb SSD / 20" ACD
Macbook Air 11.6" 1.6Ghz i5 / 4Gb / 128Gb
Beanoir is offline   2 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 4, 2012, 05:17 PM   #9
GrandPhrase
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
I can't give you an exact estimate, but I know any current Macs do last a long time easily 5+ years. I've had to purchase a new PC about every 3-4 years, but Macs can last twice as long easily. Although this is my current and first Mac (2010 Mid Macbook Pro 13"), it hasn't experienced any slowdowns. In fact, it has gotten smoother and a bit faster after going through Snow Leopard >> Lion >> Mountain Lion. If I had a PC this long, it would probably be struggling twice as much.

So generally speaking, no worries on how current Macs will last.

With that said, I know many get new Macs before they can get the most out of their current Macs, but to each their own..
__________________
iPhone 5, 13" Macbook Pro, iPad 3
GrandPhrase is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 4, 2012, 09:04 PM   #10
MacPat333
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Dubai
Well, I'd like to know how long the battery will last?

I'm thinking about getting the 13" MBA with 128GB SSD and 8GB as well and my plan is to use it as well for the next 4-5 years. My concern is the battery life, as well as the loss in capacity and running time on a full charge over time.

Currently I'm using my net book daily for approx. 3-6 hours and sometimes if I upload stuff it runs through the night. With a removable battery it's not a problem as the battery is in the drawer and the net book is plugged in to the power socket. With the Air this won't be possible.

How long will the battery last?
MacPat333 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 4, 2012, 10:03 PM   #11
A Hebrew
macrumors 6502a
 
A Hebrew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Minnesota
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacPat333 View Post
Well, I'd like to know how long the battery will last?

I'm thinking about getting the 13" MBA with 128GB SSD and 8GB as well and my plan is to use it as well for the next 4-5 years. My concern is the battery life, as well as the loss in capacity and running time on a full charge over time.

Currently I'm using my net book daily for approx. 3-6 hours and sometimes if I upload stuff it runs through the night. With a removable battery it's not a problem as the battery is in the drawer and the net book is plugged in to the power socket. With the Air this won't be possible.

How long will the battery last?
It will last with a decent charge size for 5 years, of course it will start to drop slightly in 3.
A Hebrew is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 4, 2012, 10:54 PM   #12
MacPat333
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Dubai
What means decent I this case?

If I run it 7 hours a day (full discharge), that's 2555 hours a year an 12,775 hour in 5 years.

How long does it take to fully an empty Air battery when...

1) the Air is shut down
2) the Air is still running

Thanks.
MacPat333 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 4, 2012, 11:13 PM   #13
thekev
macrumors 603
 
thekev's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by coldjeanzzz View Post
A budget PC I purchased 3 years ago experienced huge drops in speed in just a span of 1 year, battery life chopped from 3 hours to 1 hour in about 1.5 years, and the bootup time went from about 1 minute to damn near 3 minutes. In fact it got so bad I had to switch to Linux because Windows was just functioning like a piece of crap. I'm not an idiot when it comes to computers either. I never had any problems with viruses/malware and always managed applications properly so that unnecessary ones wouldn't be slowing down the system. I never tried to run the latest or greatest software either, just a simple task like opening google chrome was a pain in the ass. I'm just convinced these crappy laptops that get shelved out for a cheaper price are not worth it anymore.
This is way too anecdotal. I've had problems with the Macs I've owned too. Personal computers are not made perfectly. OSX can encounter problems too. Note that when someone has problems, a common suggestion is a clean OS installation. You still need backups. The HFS+ file system isn't even close to perfect, and there are plenty of random problems and quirks at times.
__________________
world's largest manufacturer of tin foil hats, none of that aluminum foil crap.
thekev is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 4, 2012, 11:48 PM   #14
coldjeanzzz
Thread Starter
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Well I never made the claim that Macs or any other computer was perfect. But notice many of the problems I mentioned about that specific computer weren't related to the OS itself, but more so the hardware. That's why I made this thread so I could get a better idea of people's personal experiences with their MBA.
coldjeanzzz is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 5, 2012, 12:14 AM   #15
Yebubbleman
macrumors 68020
 
Yebubbleman's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Quote:
Originally Posted by coldjeanzzz View Post
I have been looking into buying a Mac lately and for my needs a MBA seems to be perfect. However, I want this laptop to last a very long time (4 years+) and I am concerned the 4 GB of RAM will be obsolete soon so I feel 8 GB would be better.

The total cost after a student discount and tax comes out to $1300+ which is a lot since I usually never spend more than $600. With that said I only want to make this purchase if people can verify the lifespan of these items. Like at what point will I start to notice a slow down in the performance (I do take pretty good care of my electronics)? For a $1300 laptop I would like for it to be solid for a decent amount of time rather than start to get bogged down after only 1.5-2 years.
I'd opt for at least 256GB of storage; though, 512GB will realy future-proof it; though it highly depends on what you do. Definitely go for 8GB of RAM though as you can't make that change later. Assuming you pick the right sized SSD, an 8GB RAM-based MacBook Air ought to last you at least four years, if not five, before you are unable to run the latest version of OS X.
__________________
MacBook Pro (15" Mid 2012); PC Tower (3.4GHz Phenom II x4; Radeon HD 6850); 5th Gen iPod touch; 2nd and 3rd Gen tv; iPad Air Verizon; Galaxy S5 Verizon
"Don't Cry, Eat Pie"
Yebubbleman is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 5, 2012, 02:24 AM   #16
Lukewarmwinner
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
The 512gb SSD is really pricey! I'd just get a external harddrive if you run out of space.
Lukewarmwinner is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 5, 2012, 02:30 AM   #17
coldjeanzzz
Thread Starter
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Yeah I'm not worried about hard drive space very much. On one of my laptops I'm dual booting Windows with Ubuntu 12.04 and when I made the partition for Ubuntu I only allocated 75 GB of hard drive space which I didn't think would be enough but I still have half left. The only large files I keep directly on my drives is music and one or two movies that I haven't got around to watching. Anything else I just stick on an external. Upgrading to a larger SSD just runs me too much. I'm already apprehensive about buying a Mac because of the price lol.
coldjeanzzz is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 5, 2012, 02:49 AM   #18
Lukewarmwinner
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by coldjeanzzz View Post
Yeah I'm not worried about hard drive space very much. On one of my laptops I'm dual booting Windows with Ubuntu 12.04 and when I made the partition for Ubuntu I only allocated 75 GB of hard drive space which I didn't think would be enough but I still have half left. The only large files I keep directly on my drives is music and one or two movies that I haven't got around to watching. Anything else I just stick on an external. Upgrading to a larger SSD just runs me too much. I'm already apprehensive about buying a Mac because of the price lol.
You could consider using iTunes Match and save some internal space
Lukewarmwinner is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 5, 2012, 07:20 AM   #19
silver8ack
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrbobb View Post
A expensive Mac doesn't last longer than a budget pc. Apple has no magic.

The propensity for a long lasting laptop depends on whether u tend to always want run the latest, but more power consuming, software.
Either you have no experience with a budget pc, or no experience with a Mac.
silver8ack is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 5, 2012, 07:39 AM   #20
gnasher729
macrumors G5
 
gnasher729's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Quote:
Originally Posted by coldjeanzzz View Post
How is the bootup/shut down time and battery life on it compared to when you first got it?
Can't compare 2007 with new models. The battery has totally changed around 2010 or so. Before that, they were designed to last 300 charges, now they are designed for 1000 charges.

With all new MacBooks: Don't worry about it, just don't use the battery without need (so working at your desk without plugging in is just stupid because every day you waste one of your 1000 charges, but it's plenty to not worry when you are away from your desk). Boot times are quite irrelevant; you just close the lid, it goes to sleep, you open the lid, it wakes up. And boot times don't tend to grow on a Mac anyway.

----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by coldjeanzzz View Post
Yeah I'm not worried about hard drive space very much. On one of my laptops I'm dual booting Windows with Ubuntu 12.04 and when I made the partition for Ubuntu I only allocated 75 GB of hard drive space which I didn't think would be enough but I still have half left. The only large files I keep directly on my drives is music and one or two movies that I haven't got around to watching. Anything else I just stick on an external. Upgrading to a larger SSD just runs me too much. I'm already apprehensive about buying a Mac because of the price lol.
Kingston SE9 flash drive 32 GB = 19, 16 GB = 7.50. (Highly recommended because you cannot possibly lose it from your key ring). iTunes works just fine with your music library on a flash drive.

----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by MacPat333 View Post
What means decent I this case?

If I run it 7 hours a day (full discharge), that's 2555 hours a year an 12,775 hour in 5 years.

How long does it take to fully an empty Air battery when...

1) the Air is shut down
2) the Air is still running

Thanks.
You are using it 7 hours every saturday, every sunday, during holidays? And you never, ever, have a charger that you can use?


Quote:
Originally Posted by MacPat333 View Post
Currently I'm using my net book daily for approx. 3-6 hours and sometimes if I upload stuff it runs through the night. With a removable battery it's not a problem as the battery is in the drawer and the net book is plugged in to the power socket. With the Air this won't be possible.

How long will the battery last?
Excuse me, but removing the battery is about the worst thing you can do (on a MBP where it is removable). Never, ever remove the battery from a MBP. It sounds you are actually at your desk? Running on battery with a charger nearby is stupid. That's like leaving your car engine running when you are at home and complaining that it uses too much fuel.
gnasher729 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 5, 2012, 09:50 AM   #21
Crazy Badger
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Scotland
Quote:
Originally Posted by coldjeanzzz View Post
How is the bootup/shut down time and battery life on it compared to when you first got it?
Bootup/shutdown times are faster thanks to the SSD, although it very rarely gets shutdown and just suspends so it's ready to use as soon as you pick it up and open the lid! That was the main selling point when convincing my girlfriend to move away from a Windows laptop.

Battery life is still good for around 3-4 hours but it doesn't really travel so is never very far from a charge
__________________
2013 MBA 13/1.7/8 2011 iMac 27/2.7/32 iPhone5 iPad rMini & 2 aTV2 & 3 16TB FreeNAS
Canon 5D Mk2, 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS Mk1, 24-105mm f/4 L IS, 50mm f/1.4
Crazy Badger is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 5, 2012, 10:14 AM   #22
Beanoir
macrumors 6502a
 
Beanoir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: 51 degrees North
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukewarmwinner View Post
The 512gb SSD is really pricey! I'd just get a external harddrive if you run out of space.
I think the way online storage is going, the future will not be in needing physical storage space but in needing better connectivity to the web/cloud etc.

I wouldn't worry too much about getting the 512gb SSD.

Worst case scenario its upgradable in the future anyway if it really becomes an issue.
__________________
iPhone5 32Gb-iPad Mini 64Gb
iMac 27" 3.2Ghz i3 / 16Gb / 1Tb
MacMini 2.33GHz / 128Gb SSD / 20" ACD
Macbook Air 11.6" 1.6Ghz i5 / 4Gb / 128Gb
Beanoir is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 5, 2012, 10:38 AM   #23
CoMoMacUser
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by coldjeanzzz View Post
I want this laptop to last a very long time (4 years+) and I am concerned the 4 GB of RAM will be obsolete soon so I feel 8 GB would be better.
I bought a 2012 MBA and went with 8 GB for the same reason. My 2008 iMac is still going strong, so I'm confident that my MBA will last at least four years. The extra RAM is insurance against OS and software bloat.

On the HD side, I went with 128 GB because with so many free and inexpensive cloud-storage services out there (e.g., Dropbox), I don't think HD space will ever be a problem. Of course, if you need to store a bunch of videos and music locally, that's a different story.

Hope that helps.
CoMoMacUser is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 5, 2012, 10:43 AM   #24
53x12
macrumors 68000
 
53x12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanoir View Post
I think the way online storage is going, the future will not be in needing physical storage space but in needing better connectivity to the web/cloud etc.

I wouldn't worry too much about getting the 512gb SSD.

Worst case scenario its upgradable in the future anyway if it really becomes an issue.

This is just my opinion, I don't mind cloud storage for some things. Like documents, music, videos, pictures I don't use frequently. However I am skeptical to have all of my files in the cloud. Partly due to the reason of what happens when the Cloud is down.

There will always be a set number of documents/files/media I will want with me. But I will agree that isn't 3TB of stuff. Probably much less than 1TB, maybe around 500GB of material.
53x12 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 5, 2012, 11:08 AM   #25
MacPat333
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Dubai
Quote:
Originally Posted by gnasher729 View Post
Can't compare 2007 with new models. The battery has totally changed around 2010 or so. Before that, they were designed to last 300 charges, now they are designed for 1000 charges.

With all new MacBooks: Don't worry about it, just don't use the battery without need (so working at your desk without plugging in is just stupid because every day you waste one of your 1000 charges, but it's plenty to not worry when you are away from your desk). Boot times are quite irrelevant; you just close the lid, it goes to sleep, you open the lid, it wakes up. And boot times don't tend to grow on a Mac anyway.

----------



Kingston SE9 flash drive 32 GB = 19, 16 GB = 7.50. (Highly recommended because you cannot possibly lose it from your key ring). iTunes works just fine with your music library on a flash drive.

----------



You are using it 7 hours every saturday, every sunday, during holidays? And you never, ever, have a charger that you can use?




Excuse me, but removing the battery is about the worst thing you can do (on a MBP where it is removable). Never, ever remove the battery from a MBP. It sounds you are actually at your desk? Running on battery with a charger nearby is stupid. That's like leaving your car engine running when you are at home and complaining that it uses too much fuel.

I am actually working on my living room table (daily for 3-6 hours) every day. The only time when I am not using my computer that long a day is when I am on vacation for 2-4 weeks a year. But even then I use it for 1-2 hours a day if I get the time to.


Why should you not remove the battery if possible? This is what has been preached for years as the battery gets overcharged! I hae been told by hundreds of people over the years that if you don't need to run your laptop on battery, take it out and run it with the power cable to save the battery and increase the life of the same!

Did something change over the years? Or is this an Apple thing?


Let me get this straight, if I am at home I should keep it plugged in all the time?
MacPat333 is offline   0 Reply With Quote

Reply
MacRumors Forums > Apple Hardware > Notebooks > MacBook Air

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Similar Threads
thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Running Windows on MBA's 128 GH SSD GreyMatter22 MacBook Air 9 Mar 27, 2014 11:49 PM
128 GB Toshiba SSD Dead @ 15 Months (MBA 2012) - SSD Replaced henryonapple MacBook Air 35 Nov 18, 2013 12:13 PM
New MBA 13" 128 or 256 SSD? AlexNapo MacBook Air 22 Aug 13, 2013 02:41 PM
Price Advice: How much can I expect to sell my MBA for - 13", 1.86, 4GB RAM, 128 GB SSD saintforlife Buying Tips and Advice 5 Jun 13, 2013 11:32 AM
Advice: New MBA 13" i5 SSD 128 GB or used MBA 13" i7 SSD 256 GB PureScotch MacBook Air 2 Jun 12, 2012 10:51 AM

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:26 AM.

Mac Rumors | Mac | iPhone | iPhone Game Reviews | iPhone Apps

Mobile Version | Fixed | Fluid | Fluid HD
Copyright 2002-2013, MacRumors.com, LLC