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Old Nov 7, 2012, 09:22 AM   #1
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Mini haters - First thoughts iPad3 Retina: Waste of money

With all the gnashing of teeth about the iPad mini screen, a recollection is in order.

I remember when I bought my iPad3 and gave the iPad2 away from to the kid. When I finally got the 3, I remember thinking: I can barely see the difference in the screen; I wonder if I was a dupe for spending all that money for a new iPad.

Then, of course, I showed it to my wife to demonstrate how much better it was. She went: Eh, should've saved your money for the iPad4.

Now I like my retina, but if I'd hadn't upgraded I probably never would have noticed.

PS My wife ended up being right in that I should have waited for the 4. My kid feels like it was a good idea to get the 3.
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Old Nov 7, 2012, 09:26 AM   #2
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I'm sorry, but if you can't see any significant difference between the iPad 2 and iPad 3 displays then it's your eyesight that's at fault.

The iPad 2 display looks like I've rubbed Vaseline in my eyes in comparison to the iPad 3 display. It's THAT noticeable.

I tried the iPad mini at the Apple store yesterday and I just couldn't get over how horrible the display was now that I'm used to a retina-class display. A number of online reviews have said the same thing.
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Old Nov 7, 2012, 09:29 AM   #3
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Not a hater but no matter what resolution the mini is, my main gripe was the screen size was not worth it to me. I will carry the extra weight and bulk for the larger screen.

The whole point of the mini is not to compete with the iPad but to give people choices! Apple had little choice as they are now down to only 50% of the market and they HAD to come up with something in the size to compete with the Kindle, etc!
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Old Nov 7, 2012, 09:34 AM   #4
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The iPad 3 display is much much better than the 2.

I remember the jump to Retina on the iPhone, that was spectacular too. And now the iPhone 5 screen is even better, too.

Not all the bumps make a real world difference, but the Retina display on my iPad 3 makes a massive difference to my eyes, especially when reading or watching films.
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Old Nov 7, 2012, 09:34 AM   #5
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The whole point of the mini is not to compete with the iPad but to give people choices! Apple had little choice as they are now down to only 50% of the market and they HAD to come up with something in the size to compete with the Kindle, etc!
Well, lets hope that "competing with choices" is Apples new direction because the iPhone definitely could use more size options.
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Old Nov 7, 2012, 09:34 AM   #6
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Not a hater but no matter what resolution the mini is, my main gripe was the screen size was not worth it to me. I will carry the extra weight and bulk for the larger screen.

The whole point of the mini is not to compete with the iPad but to give people choices! Apple had little choice as they are now down to only 50% of the market and they HAD to come up with something in the size to compete with the Kindle, etc!
Exactly.
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Old Nov 7, 2012, 09:53 AM   #7
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"Mini hater"? How silly. I was looking forward to the Mini, but when the rumored resolution proved true, that was a deal breaker for me.

I like a lot about the Mini, but I won't go back to a less-than-Retina-like screen on any handheld device, which I guess is a result of having an iPhone 4S. I was really interested in the MS Surface RT, but the resolution made it a no-go. Do I "hate" the Surface? I don't have any emotion towards it. I responded to the Mini and the Surface by buying a refurbished 3rd gen. iPad instead.

Enjoy your Mini, Scott. I'm happy for you. Frankly, though, I reserve the word "hate" for something a bit more consequential than a piece of technology.
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Old Nov 7, 2012, 10:10 AM   #8
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Well, lets hope that "competing with choices" is Apples new direction because the iPhone definitely could use more size options.
I also hoped for bigger screen on the 5 but some Apple people were freaking out at the thought of it growing a single millimeter! For me making it just taller was a waste yet I guess Apple figured that the Apple people could maybe get used to it.

It is funny as the 5 has only been out a short time and I hear these 5 owners say how "stubby" the 4S was and that they do not see how they could use such a "brick".

It might be a new day for Apple and maybe they will offer a iPhone with 4 to 5" screen that is wider, also! I would buy it in a second!

Right now I just wish they would get my iPad 4 LTE delivered as the person who I promised my iPad 3 is starting to make me nervous!
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Old Nov 7, 2012, 10:16 AM   #9
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I'm sorry, but if you can't see any significant difference between the iPad 2 and iPad 3 displays then it's your eyesight that's at fault.

The iPad 2 display looks like I've rubbed Vaseline in my eyes in comparison to the iPad 3 display. It's THAT noticeable.

I tried the iPad mini at the Apple store yesterday and I just couldn't get over how horrible the display was now that I'm used to a retina-class display. A number of online reviews have said the same thing.

EXACTLY.. i was fixing a friends ipad the screen resolution looked so bad I honestly asked him if it was an ipad 1st gen.. when it was actually the 2nd gen.
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Old Nov 7, 2012, 10:30 AM   #10
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tl:dr If you can't see the difference between retina and non retina, you're blind like me.
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Old Nov 7, 2012, 10:42 AM   #11
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There is difference if you are coming from retina iPad. If this is your first iPad, you will be perfectly fine with resolution. I just hate it when people make iPad Mini look like it has old tube TV resolution.
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Old Nov 7, 2012, 10:49 AM   #12
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I like retina, but this mini is very usable. I'm not sure about the haters either.

At a normal working distance the mini screen is sharp. I tend to hold it closer for reading And in that case I do see some differences, but still not enough to make this a useless device,or even unpleasant.
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Old Nov 7, 2012, 11:11 AM   #13
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So a week of hysteria later, it turns out some people find retina more important than others. It is interesting to me though the no mini owners have complained about missing the extra screen size. Although i am 9.7" or larger proponent--its seems like people are happy with a small tablet and smartphone. I think the whole galaxy II points to a phone in a mini form factor. accessed via blue tooth
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Old Nov 7, 2012, 11:38 AM   #14
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I have been singing praise of the mini since friday. The last 2 evenings I started getting headaches while using it though and in my opinion it was from eye strain. I used my wifes ipad3 countless times and never experienced what I have the last couple nights. I am 41 years old and my eyes probably arent what they used to be though. I really think it was just from the text being so small that caused it and I have never been a fan of zooming. I returned it to apple today and picked up an ipad 4 64gb... In my opinion the mini is a great product though and in no way do I think people are crazy for getting one. The lightweight and small size is really nice...
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Old Nov 7, 2012, 11:39 AM   #15
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Suspect that anyone who hasn't used an iPad before won't really notice the lack of retina. This is a great entry level device for anyone who doesn't have an iPad.
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Old Nov 7, 2012, 11:44 AM   #16
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Didn't say I couldn't see it at all. Just said it was not worth replacing the iPad for. Not an $900 upgrade.

I was very perfectly happy with the 1 and 2 for 2 some years. Would have been happy for one or two more.

I am so susceptible to that Apple marketing.
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Old Nov 7, 2012, 11:49 AM   #17
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I have been singing praise of the mini since friday. The last 2 evenings I started getting headaches while using it though and in my opinion it was from eye strain. I used my wifes ipad3 countless times and never experienced what I have the last couple nights. I am 41 years old and my eyes probably arent what they used to be though. I really think it was just from the text being so small that caused it and I have never been a fan of zooming. I returned it to apple today and picked up an ipad 4 64gb... In my opinion the mini is a great product though and in no way do I think people are crazy for getting one. The lightweight and small size is really nice...
This makes sense. The ipad mini has up to 53% more reflections than their competitors.
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Didn't say I couldn't see it at all. Just said it was not worth replacing the iPad for. Not an $900 upgrade.

I was very perfectly happy with the 1 and 2 for 2 some years. Would have been happy for one or two more.

I am so susceptible to that Apple marketing.
I could tell a night and day difference between the 2 and 3. Maybe I'm not as blind as others-huzzah! And I have to desire to give up my 3 (since I'll be taking a bath on my 64 gig lte resale value anyway) unless it quits working out of warranty or a new model has blow me out of my socks features or performance, not just a spec upgrade.

Hey, if you're cool with the Mini screen, that's the only thing that matters at the end of the day. Enjoy!
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Didn't say I couldn't see it at all. Just said it was not worth replacing the iPad for. Not an $900 upgrade.

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Well, what did you do with your old iPad? I upgraded from iPad 2 to iPad 3 on launch day and basically paid 150€ for that, because I sold my iPad 2 a few days before the announcement. To me, the Retina display was the one technical spec that really brought forward the iPad as a whole.
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Everyone need to just be patient as the retina mini will be here before Spring.
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Everyone need to just be patient as the retina mini will be here before Spring.
I disagree. Apple would have to use a 7.9" display with the 2048x1536 resolution of an Retina iPad, preferably with IGZO technology to bring down battery consumption. That won't happen until next year.
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I disagree. Apple would have to use a 7.9" display with the 2048x1536 resolution of an Retina iPad, preferably with IGZO technology to bring down battery consumption. That won't happen until next year.
Spring IS next year.
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It's a waste of money in much the same way that going to Ruth's Chris for a steak is a waste when you can get a steak from Denny's for a lot less.
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Spring IS next year.
Sorry, late next year.
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Sorry, late next year.
No need to apologize for being sorry.

Wow, I guess I forgot you work at Apple

2nd qtr!
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