Register FAQ / Rules Forum Spy Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Go Back   MacRumors Forums > News and Article Discussion > MacRumors.com News Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old Nov 8, 2012, 03:35 PM   #76
richard371
macrumors 65816
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
What's a tiered data plan? I have the 4gb plan does that could?
richard371 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 8, 2012, 03:36 PM   #77
JHankwitz
macrumors 68000
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Wisconsin
Send a message via AIM to JHankwitz
Quote:
Originally Posted by SandboxGeneral View Post
AT&T still doesn't get it. It's our data, and we should get to choose how we use it.
It may be your data, but it's their network it's traveling on.
JHankwitz is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 8, 2012, 03:37 PM   #78
albertsw
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
It works for me now! I just did a facetime on LTE on my iPhone 5 with the 2GB plan.
albertsw is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 8, 2012, 03:39 PM   #79
machestnut
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Florida
Quote:
Originally Posted by GQB View Post
Don't give me wireless FaceTime, give me G*d D*mn LTE coverage!!!
YESSSSSS!!!! same here

----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by bbeagle View Post
They get it. They're trying to save money.

Offer someone an all-you-can-eat buffet for $10. Or an ounce of food for $2 each.

Offer spaghetti, hot dogs, macaroni and cheese, steak and lobster.

Don't let the all-you-can-eaters choose steak or lobster.

That's what they're doing.
They make enough.
__________________
13 inch Macbook Pro, Ipod Shuffle, Ipad Air 32gb LTE Wifi,IPHONE 5 White

Last edited by balamw; Nov 8, 2012 at 05:46 PM. Reason: OT/PRSI: No politics outside PRSI
machestnut is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 8, 2012, 03:39 PM   #80
nilk
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Florida, U.S.
What about someone who is on HSPA+ (not LTE) on an iPhone 4S and has a 5GB plan with wifi hotspot/tethering. I find it completely ludicrous that I can tether another device to my iPhone, and do Facetime on the other device (and all kinds of other high bandwidth activities), but I can't do FaceTime over Cellular on my iPhone itself. AT&T needs to correct this soon; at least customers who pay extra for this should get FaceTime over cellular. Of course, everyone should get FaceTime over Cellular. Even the ones who are grandfathered in to unlimited -- they get throttled anyway. But it's a big slap in the face to those who have wifi hotspot/tethering especially.

Why the distinction that it must be LTE?
__________________
Mac Pro 2,1 w/ Xeon E5345's & ATI 5770 / Early '09 17" MBP / Early '08 15" MBP / 2012 15" rMBP / iPhone 4S 64GB
nilk is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 8, 2012, 03:41 PM   #81
Macboy Pro
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by canucksfan88 View Post
i am no expert at cellular networks and data, however this whole "it's my data, i should be able to do whatever I want with it" is a bit bs.

LTE allows for more bandwidth and strictly is for data. 3G on the other hand handles both data and voice protocols.

For those FaceTiming on 3G, you add significant strain on the AT&T network. People forget that when 3G first rolled out (around 2005), the amount of traffic was next to none. Yes infrastructure has improved and evolved, but at the end of the day, it is about delivering and meeting the Quality of Service expectations. You must also look at the amount of smartphone traffic that the 3G networks now see...it is at levels probably not thinkable back when the networks were first rolled out.

So yes, moving FaceTime only to LTE is smart.

You are exactly right. People need to get past their "gimme" attitudes. If everyone had unlimited, they would all watch netflix streaming and the network would SUCK. When unlimited was offered, throughput was like 1MB or less. Not I can get 20-40MBs in the Tampa area on LTE AT&T. Most folks would cancel their broadband and tether there phone if it was unlimited data at that speed. The Telecoms can not handle that.
Macboy Pro is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 8, 2012, 03:43 PM   #82
AustinIllini
macrumors Demi-God
 
AustinIllini's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Austin, TX
Quote:
Originally Posted by cmwhitley View Post
Whatever, AT&T. Try as you may to force me out of my unlimited data plan; you can have it when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers.
Or just make you change it.
__________________
Victory ILLINOIS Varsity!
Early 2011 13" MBP iPad Mini Retina 32 GB Google Nexus 5
AustinIllini is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 8, 2012, 03:44 PM   #83
xizar
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrianMojo View Post
So wait, legitimate question: if I have a 3GS on the unlimited plan, can I roll over the unlimited plan to an iPhone 5? I thought you had to drop the unlimited because you're moving to 4G?
Make sure you buy the phone from Apple and not AT&T. If you go through AT&T's website, it makes you choose one of their new plans. Going through Apple gives you the option to change or you can keep what you have.

(This was my experience when buying my iphone. Other's may not have had that problem.)
xizar is offline   2 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 8, 2012, 03:46 PM   #84
monkey28rb
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
According to this post it is coming to Unlimited plans too....
"The company said that within eight to 10 weeks, the video and voice calling app will be available to subscribers of older unlimited and tiered data plans. In September, AT&T said those customers of the new iPhone 5 or iOS6 wouldn’t have access to FaceTime. The company offered the app only for new Apple device customers who agreed to buy into shared data plans, in which the company bundles together data charges for multiple devices."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...e56c_blog.html
monkey28rb is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 8, 2012, 03:47 PM   #85
DJsteveSD
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: San Diego, CA
:d
__________________
iBook G4; iPhone 5, 4 & 3GS; iPad Air & 3

Last edited by DJsteveSD; Nov 8, 2012 at 05:32 PM. Reason: deleting post
DJsteveSD is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 8, 2012, 03:57 PM   #86
JuBe
macrumors member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by bbeagle View Post
They get it. They're trying to save money.

Offer someone an all-you-can-eat buffet for $10. Or an ounce of food for $2 each.

Offer spaghetti, hot dogs, macaroni and cheese, steak and lobster.

Don't let the all-you-can-eaters choose steak or lobster.

That's what they're doing.
Not quite a perfect analogy... a bit is a bit is a bit. It's 0's and 1's... AT&T is discriminating against data... and that is a breach of net neutrality.
__________________
15.4" Macbook Pro, 2.53 GHz, 4 GB RAM, 700 something GB HD; iPhone 4s
JuBe is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 8, 2012, 03:57 PM   #87
rdlink
macrumors 68000
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Quote:
Originally Posted by bbeagle View Post
They get it. They're trying to save money.

Offer someone an all-you-can-eat buffet for $10. Or an ounce of food for $2 each.

Offer spaghetti, hot dogs, macaroni and cheese, steak and lobster.

Don't let the all-you-can-eaters choose steak or lobster.

That's what they're doing.
It's not them trying to make money that galls. It's the doublespeak and almost hostile attitude toward their paying customers. Which is why I use the buffet down the street. Die a slow, agonizing death, AT&T.
rdlink is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 8, 2012, 04:01 PM   #88
jps1012
macrumors 6502a
 
jps1012's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NYC
Quote:
Originally Posted by monkey28rb View Post
According to this post it is coming to Unlimited plans too....
"The company said that within eight to 10 weeks, the video and voice calling app will be available to subscribers of older unlimited and tiered data plans. In September, AT&T said those customers of the new iPhone 5 or iOS6 wouldn’t have access to FaceTime. The company offered the app only for new Apple device customers who agreed to buy into shared data plans, in which the company bundles together data charges for multiple devices."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...e56c_blog.html
that would be awesome if this happens.
jps1012 is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 8, 2012, 04:02 PM   #89
DJsteveSD
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: San Diego, CA
Quote:
Originally Posted by albertsw View Post
It works for me now! I just did a facetime on LTE on my iPhone 5 with the 2GB plan.
I just tried it on my tiered 4gb plan and it works for me too. what happened to weeks? (not that I'm complaining) I actually use facetime with someone I am seeing that lives in London so this is great!!



nevermind, I forget to turn on facetime over cellular, got the obnoxious message to call.
__________________
iBook G4; iPhone 5, 4 & 3GS; iPad Air & 3

Last edited by DJsteveSD; Nov 8, 2012 at 05:30 PM. Reason: correction
DJsteveSD is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 8, 2012, 04:06 PM   #90
JuBe
macrumors member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by JHankwitz View Post
It may be your data, but it's their network it's traveling on.
You're paying for that right. And no matter how you play it, AT&T is discriminating against data and that is a breach of net neutrality.

----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by jps1012 View Post
that would be awesome if this happens.
While the blog says:
Quote:
We will continue to gather and assess the network data on this issue over the next few months and anticipate that we will be able to expand the availability of FaceTime to our customers on other billing plans in the near future.
, it doesn't mean that they actually plan to incorporate unlimited plans.
__________________
15.4" Macbook Pro, 2.53 GHz, 4 GB RAM, 700 something GB HD; iPhone 4s
JuBe is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 8, 2012, 04:08 PM   #91
pnoyblazed
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Rockland/Manhattan
tiered data? I have the 2gb data cap, non mobileshared and I just tried it on my iPhone 5 and its saying I have to switch to an appropriate plan to use that Facetime feature.
pnoyblazed is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 8, 2012, 04:13 PM   #92
2IS
macrumors 68020
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by pnoyblazed View Post
tiered data? I have the 2gb data cap, non mobileshared and I just tried it on my iPhone 5 and its saying I have to switch to an appropriate plan to use that Facetime feature.
The article clearly states 8-10 week rollout period.
2IS is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 8, 2012, 04:18 PM   #93
SolRayz
macrumors 6502a
 
SolRayz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Ft. Lauderdale
Send a message via AIM to SolRayz
Whatever argument AT$T babbles on about blocking cellular FaceTime is a moot point. I've been using Skype video over unlimited data on my iPhone 4 since day one, no issues here.
SolRayz is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 8, 2012, 04:25 PM   #94
iMikeT
macrumors 68020
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: California
How about for those of us with "unlimited" plans?
iMikeT is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 8, 2012, 04:28 PM   #95
CosmoPilot
macrumors 65816
 
CosmoPilot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: South Carolina
AT&T's failed attempt to do the backstroke!

ALL tiered plans should have this, not just LTE devices. I have the iP5, but this policy still pi**es me off.

How does AT&T model everyone streaming movies at the same time?

It's our paid block of data, let us use this how WE want!
CosmoPilot is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 8, 2012, 04:29 PM   #96
deannnnn
macrumors 68000
 
deannnnn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: New York City & South Florida
Yeah thanks for this miraculous gift that you're giving us AT&T.
__________________
MacBook Pro (Retina) / iPhone 5S
deannnnn is offline   2 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 8, 2012, 04:37 PM   #97
drober30
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
OK, I really don't care about face time but you would think AT&T would find away not to punish those with an unlimited plan, which is really not unlimited because they will throtal you and exclude you from features that they offer others. If you have an unlimited plan it means you have been with AT&T for awhile and should be considered a valuable/loyal customer.
drober30 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 8, 2012, 04:48 PM   #98
Cougarcat
macrumors 603
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Quote:
Originally Posted by canucksfan88 View Post
So yes, moving FaceTime only to LTE is smart.
Is that what they are doing? In the press release it says it is limited to "LTE devices," it does not say anything about the network. It would be nice if the limitation was only to the device since AT&T's LTE coverage isn't going to be complete til 2014.
Cougarcat is online now   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 8, 2012, 04:50 PM   #99
ed724
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
for you 4S and below users, just say "JAILBREAK", but not on IOS6 yet. Besides IOS6 isn't really worth the change from 5. IMOH.
ed724 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 8, 2012, 04:51 PM   #100
TrentS
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Overland Park, Kansas
Scrimshaw!

Quote:
Originally Posted by SandboxGeneral View Post
AT&T still doesn't get it. It's our data, and we should get to choose how we use it.
"It's my data! And I want it NOW!!!!!!!!!!"

TrentS is offline   0 Reply With Quote

Reply
MacRumors Forums > News and Article Discussion > MacRumors.com News Discussion

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Similar Threads
thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
AT&T to Expand FaceTime Over Cellular to All Customers by Year End MacRumors MacRumors.com News Discussion 94 Jan 29, 2014 09:00 PM
AT&T Expands FaceTime Over Cellular Support to All Tiered Data Plans MacRumors MacRumors.com News Discussion 238 Jun 2, 2013 04:11 PM
AT&T Seems to Be Extending FaceTime-Over-Cellular to All Customers MacRumors MacRumors.com News Discussion 467 Jan 14, 2013 08:18 AM
Beta 4 locks AT&T customers out of FaceTime over cellular! Beezzy iOS 6 65 Aug 8, 2012 12:40 PM
Sprint Won't Charge Customers for FaceTime Over Cellular MacRumors iOS Blog Discussion 57 Jul 26, 2012 11:26 AM

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:23 AM.

Mac Rumors | Mac | iPhone | iPhone Game Reviews | iPhone Apps

Mobile Version | Fixed | Fluid | Fluid HD
Copyright 2002-2013, MacRumors.com, LLC