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Old Nov 8, 2012, 05:35 PM   #1
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Stay Classy Romney Campaign :) [campaign cancels staffers credit cards]

Romney campaign cancels its staffers credit cards while they are still working:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/helaineo...-of-the-night/

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Old Nov 8, 2012, 05:40 PM   #2
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Next time be classy and include something of the article in your post. It could be a snippet of the article or at least a headline.


Otherwise, his campaign is over he doesn't have to pay people's credit cards anymore.
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Old Nov 8, 2012, 05:45 PM   #3
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Next time be classy and include something of the article in your post. It could be a snippet of the article or at least a headline.


Otherwise, his campaign is over he doesn't have to pay people's credit cards anymore.
True, but it isn't entirely smart (or classy).
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Old Nov 8, 2012, 05:51 PM   #4
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Romney aides on their way home from his "victory" party "got rude awakenings when they found the credit cards linked to the campaign no longer worked."

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Old Nov 8, 2012, 06:02 PM   #5
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Such is life. I'm sure the same would have happened had Obama lost.
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Old Nov 8, 2012, 06:18 PM   #6
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Oh how surprising you make bed fellows with a bunch of greedy un-compassionate bastards and you're surprised when they screw you out of a few hundred bucks when they don't need you anymore.

I guess they should just rely on themselves instead of sponging of the Romney campaign .
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Old Nov 8, 2012, 11:24 PM   #7
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Such is life. I'm sure the same would have happened had Obama lost.
I highly doubt that. If this is true, this shows just how pitiful of a man Romney is, along with the people in charge of his campaign. Take the people who have poured themselves into helping you and dump them at the end. Precisely why I hope I never have to work for some pretentious blowhard like that.

What's even sadder is people agreeing with it.
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Old Nov 9, 2012, 01:18 AM   #8
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Next time be classy and include something of the article in your post. It could be a snippet of the article or at least a headline.

Otherwise, his campaign is over he doesn't have to pay people's credit cards anymore.
The campaign may have ended, but it, the organization, is still alive, it still has bills to pay, paperwork to file and business to finish up. Turning off staffers phone in the middle of the night right after he lost is deplorable behavior and bad business. At least tell them, or let them know ahead. These people worked their asses off for him, he slapped them in their faces.

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Old Nov 9, 2012, 01:26 AM   #9
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With this attitude Romney was always going to fail

At least the right man for the job won
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Old Nov 9, 2012, 08:16 AM   #10
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I highly doubt that. If this is true, this shows just how pitiful of a man Romney is, along with the people in charge of his campaign. Take the people who have poured themselves into helping you and dump them at the end. Precisely why I hope I never have to work for some pretentious blowhard like that.

What's even sadder is people agreeing with it.
Exactly.

Whatever about Mr Romney's message, strategy and tactics (and I have long thought all of them a dreadful indictment of his attitudes and outlook), this behaviour and conduct is very telling.

Here, we have a man, who has just sought the highest office in his country, (and, thankfully, failed to win it), and who, in the course of the campaign, showed not just women, blacks, Latinos, gays that he holds them in utter contempt, but, also, as soon as the campaign is over, he shows, tellingly, that he holds people who have worked their hearts out for him in equal contempt.

You do not send your workers home on the last day without ensuring that they have the means to get there safely. You do not treat your staff with such flagrant disrespect. Seeing that they have the means to get home safely is just basic manners, courtesy and consideration - qualities that people from the old deep South traditionally prided themselves on having; but, evidently, not Mr Romney.

As a man, as a human being, this is a very revealing action, and appalling behaviour. Proof, if further proof were needed, that the electorate returned the right verdict this week when they returned Barack Obama to the White House for a second term.

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The campaign may have ended, but it, the organization, is still alive, it still has bills to pay, paperwork to file and business to finish up. Turning off staffers phone in the middle of the night right after he lost is deplorable behavior and bad business. At least tell them, or let them know ahead. These people worked their asses off for him, he slapped them in their faces.
Agree completely.

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With this attitude Romney was always going to fail

At least the right man for the job won
Amen to that.

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Old Nov 9, 2012, 08:21 AM   #11
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Those campaign workers were part of the 47% looking for handouts. Living on the campaign dole.

It isn't Mr. Romney's job to worry about them.
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Old Nov 9, 2012, 08:22 AM   #12
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The campaign may have ended, but it, the organization, is still alive, it still has bills to pay, paperwork to file and business to finish up. Turning off staffers phone in the middle of the night right after he lost is deplorable behavior and bad business. At least tell them, or let them know ahead. These people worked their asses off for him, he slapped them in their faces.
This was pretty much my thoughts.

The cards and such were provided for business use. There is still business to be completed, despite the loss. Whatever, sore loser.
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Old Nov 9, 2012, 08:30 AM   #14
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Pretty SOP for a losing campaign to reign in the spending after a loss like this. Having campaign cards cut off is not uncommon for a campaign of this scale, as everything now shifts to expense reports and centralized payment of bills to make sure that there is no wasteful spending.
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Pretty SOP for a losing campaign to reign in the spending after a loss like this. Having campaign cards cut off is not uncommon for a campaign of this scale, as everything now shifts to expense reports and centralized payment of bills to make sure that there is no wasteful spending.
That's fine, and expected within a few days and with some notice. But seriously? Within hours of the results, before your staffers could even make it home? Come on. That is a straight up FU.
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Pretty SOP for a losing campaign to reign in the spending after a loss like this. Having campaign cards cut off is not uncommon for a campaign of this scale, as everything now shifts to expense reports and centralized payment of bills to make sure that there is no wasteful spending.
But don't you think that perhaps someone should have TOLD them this was going to happen? "Oh, by the way, you have to find your own way home tonight, turn in your credit cards and phones when you leave." Still a dick move, but at least more honest than letting people get stuck with a declined card for cab fare, and no phone at 1:00 am in the morning. These people weren't going out and trying to buy computers and such, they were trying to get back to hotels.
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But don't you think that perhaps someone should have TOLD them this was going to happen? "Oh, by the way, you have to find your own way home tonight, turn in your credit cards and phones when you leave." Still a dick move, but at least more honest than letting people get stuck with a declined card for cab fare, and no phone at 1:00 am in the morning. These people weren't going out and trying to buy computers and such, they were trying to get back to hotels.
And they will surely be reimbursed for their expense. But we're talking about a national campaign with hundreds of cards out in the field. Letting everyone know ahead of time is impractical for two reasons:

1.) Outside of the concession speech, campaigns ALWAYS work under the assumption they are going to win. Folks are always trying to stay positive, so contingencies for if we lose never get past a couple of people on the upper levels of campaign executives.

2.) Folks with cards are spread out all over hell and back. Once they lost trying to get in touch with all of them would take forever.

For staffers on a major national campaign that were trusted enough with spending privilege....they really should not have been caught off guard by this.
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2.) Folks with cards are spread out all over hell and back. Once they lost trying to get in touch with all of them would take forever.
I'm fairly confident that anyone high enough in the campaign to actually HAVE a campaign credit card is going to be pretty well connected. The campaign staffers are in constant contact with one another. I'm sure a quick email would have been easy and would have reached most, if not all of those with credit cards.
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Next time be classy and include something of the article in your post. It could be a snippet of the article or at least a headline.


Otherwise, his campaign is over he doesn't have to pay people's credit cards anymore.
Are you genuinely too lazy to click the link or are you just a PO'ed guy who voted romney?
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And they will surely be reimbursed for their expense. But we're talking about a national campaign with hundreds of cards out in the field. Letting everyone know ahead of time is impractical for two reasons:

1.) Outside of the concession speech, campaigns ALWAYS work under the assumption they are going to win. Folks are always trying to stay positive, so contingencies for if we lose never get past a couple of people on the upper levels of campaign executives.

2.) Folks with cards are spread out all over hell and back. Once they lost trying to get in touch with all of them would take forever.

For staffers on a major national campaign that were trusted enough with spending privilege....they really should not have been caught off guard by this.
Sounds like a pretty bad way to run a business. Oh, wait...
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Are you genuinely too lazy to click the link or are you just a PO'ed guy who voted romney?
No and No. But its not too much to ask when someone makes a thread and its considered bad form when you don't.
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....For staffers on a major national campaign that were trusted enough with spending privilege....they really should not have been caught off guard by this.
they were cut off while at his "victory" party and couldn't pay their cab fare home from "celebrating"


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No and No. But its not too much to ask when someone makes a thread and its considered bad form when you don't.
agreed......at least put a sample of what's supposed to support the topic
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MOD NOTE: how to start a new thread is actually part of the rules.

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Rules? We don't need no stinking rules!

The only question I want to know the answer to is whether the campaign staff had already been made aware of a policy about the cards post-election. If so, what was the policy.

If there was no policy, and the cards were being used for travel and/or lodging, then this was pretty poorly managed.
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But don't you think that perhaps someone should have TOLD them this was going to happen? "Oh, by the way, you have to find your own way home tonight, turn in your credit cards and phones when you leave."
Considering that Romney didn't even consider that he might lose or that he should write a concession speech just in case, it doesn't surprise me that people were not told what would happen. They were in a bubble. That should have been a danger sign to everyone on the campaign. Confidence is great. But anytime someone gets too cocky and thinks things are a sure bet, they usually find themselves losing.

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And they will surely be reimbursed for their expense. But we're talking about a national campaign with hundreds of cards out in the field. Letting everyone know ahead of time is impractical for two reasons:

1.) Outside of the concession speech, campaigns ALWAYS work under the assumption they are going to win. Folks are always trying to stay positive, so contingencies for if we lose never get past a couple of people on the upper levels of campaign executives.

2.) Folks with cards are spread out all over hell and back. Once they lost trying to get in touch with all of them would take forever.
As someone else said, there is this little invention we have now, called email. I assume that if they were out in the field doing work, that they were being guided by daily emails. This would have been just another one of those directives.
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