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Old Nov 11, 2012, 01:29 PM   #51
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For those who are enraged that this $21M was instead of some other spending... it wasn’t. Whatever you wanted Apple to spend money on, they still can.

For those who think Apple had to pay an unfair amount... they screwed up blatantly. They licensed it AFTER they used it. They would have had a lot more negotiating power—as well as the option to just use some other design--if they hadn’t already violated the copyright. Might have been just one or two people’s honest mistake, rather than Apple management on a mission to steal, but the result was the same.

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Again a useless and this time very expensive use of skeuomorphism...Apple will need to sell some iPads to refinance that Forstall decision....
All non-digital clocks are skeuomorphic. I like this one... but I’m glad it’s not MY $12M
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Old Nov 11, 2012, 01:29 PM   #52
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Because the could get taxed on that. So it's a big no no.
There would be a hefty tax deduction I am sure, plus an incalculable amount of goodwill.
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Old Nov 11, 2012, 01:30 PM   #53
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And I wonder how much lawyers on both sides made out of this...
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Old Nov 11, 2012, 01:32 PM   #54
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It will be consumers (those travelling with the Swiss railway) who get the benefit at the end.
Nice
But it doesn't work that way. Swiss rail won't lower their prices and neither will Apple raise theirs. Every company will always ask the highest price for their product they think they can get away with. So these 21 million come out of the shareholders' pockets, not the customers'.
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Old Nov 11, 2012, 01:35 PM   #55
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Wow, thats incredible!

Remember that the consumer will be the one picking up the tab at the end.
Yes.. we are paying for that, no wonder Apple is getting greedy with customer service.

Last year the battery of my MBP explode and they gave me a replacement for free even the recall was over. This last week the same battery explode again and I had to pay $100 even the replacement was supposed to be better quality than the original.
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Old Nov 11, 2012, 01:37 PM   #56
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Switzerland is intimately connected with the major European cults... Perhaps the clock's symbolism was important to Apple, and it had nothing to do with aesthetics.
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Old Nov 11, 2012, 01:44 PM   #57
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Let's hope this penalty will bring Apple back on track. As of today, the Clock apps on iOS are different between iPhone and iPad. That's a lame oversight and should not have happened.

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All non-digital clocks are skeuomorphic. I like this one... but I’m glad it’s not MY $12M
Not all.

And $21 million.
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Old Nov 11, 2012, 01:44 PM   #58
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Good thing they paid. Whose idea was it to rip off a clock design for iOS anyway? But I would have been fine with just having a different clock design.
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Old Nov 11, 2012, 01:46 PM   #59
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Wow, thats incredible!

Remember that the consumer will be the one picking up the tab at the end.
No they won't. Pricing is decided by supply and demand. Shareholders are the ones that lose when companies waste money, not that Apple will miss this much cash.

I find it kind of hard to believe that they paid this much anyway. Maybe it includes some kind of advertising for Apple or they just misplaced the decimal.
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Old Nov 11, 2012, 01:46 PM   #60
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Yes.. we are paying for that, no wonder Apple is getting greedy with customer service.

Last year the battery of my MBP explode and they gave me a replacement for free even the recall was over. This last week the same battery explode again and I had to pay $100 even the replacement was supposed to be better quality than the original.
Greedy with customer service? Not sure those words belong together.

So it sounds like you were hoping to get a _better_ battery for free? When I've purchased replacement batteries, they've typically been more than $100, so you probably got yours at a discount. Why are you complaining?

But to take a couple of steps back... why are your batteries exploding? Are you letting them get too hot?
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Old Nov 11, 2012, 01:49 PM   #61
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Wow, $21 million for a clock. I'm assuming batteries are extra?
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Old Nov 11, 2012, 01:49 PM   #62
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Not all.

And $21 million.
Not arguing, but I'd like to see one that isn't. I can't think of one.
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Old Nov 11, 2012, 01:49 PM   #63
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That amount is ridiculous and I don't believe it for a moment. I would have changed the design to show a Swiss guy getting shot at high noon before paying out that much cash in an extortion basis.
If you did that, you would have saved Apple $21M because that design would not be a direct ripoff of a Swiss watch design.
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Old Nov 11, 2012, 01:51 PM   #64
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"the licensing agreement may not provide any compensation to watchmaker Mondaine..."

And why would it? They're just another licensee of the design.
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Old Nov 11, 2012, 01:51 PM   #65
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What a waste of money.
Not necessarily. You have to factor in other costs if Apple had fought the case. Remember, if Apple infringed, the plaintiff was entitled to compensation. Just think how many devices that clock appears. Attorney fees and other expenses must also be considered. Sometimes, it is better to settle than fight.
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Old Nov 11, 2012, 01:51 PM   #66
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Nice
But it doesn't work that way. Swiss rail won't lower their prices and neither will Apple raise theirs. Every company will always ask the highest price for their product they think they can get away with. So these 21 million come out of the shareholders' pockets, not the customers'.
Yeah, exactly. Apple shows this whenever they charge way more for extra RAM than what the parts cost and when they make more profit off of iPads than competitors (who make around <$0 profit) do.
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Old Nov 11, 2012, 01:52 PM   #67
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Old Nov 11, 2012, 01:56 PM   #68
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Who knows how much Apple would've liked it to put a statement for the Swiss Federal Railways on their main page on apple.ch.
Just that there's no apple.ch to put it on...
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Old Nov 11, 2012, 01:58 PM   #69
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Now, thats one expensive clock.
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Old Nov 11, 2012, 02:00 PM   #70
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What a waste of money
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Whose idea was it to rip off a clock design for iOS anyway?
Most likely Steve's after lurking around here for a while during therapy...
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Old Nov 11, 2012, 02:02 PM   #72
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So Apple paid 21 Million for a flippin' clock and only paid 2.5 million to help Hurricane Sandy victims?


What a load of BS...shows how much Apple cares.
Atleast They helped the Sandy Victims, Its better then nothing.
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Old Nov 11, 2012, 02:06 PM   #73
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A protracted lawsuit would have been so much cheaper.
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Old Nov 11, 2012, 02:07 PM   #74
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LOL this is so stupid.. Apple cant make their own iconic Clock ICON that's absurd... Hell hire me I will make you one for a mere $1000.00 (Still ripping you off but hey it's not 21 million ripoff)
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Old Nov 11, 2012, 02:07 PM   #75
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What does this break down to per iOS6 iPad?
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