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Old Nov 12, 2012, 05:57 PM   #1
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Uganda's "Kill the Gays" bill to become law in December

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Referring to the law as a ‘Christmas gift’ to the population, she spoke of ‘the serious threat’ posed by homosexuals.

The law will broaden the criminalization of same-sex relationships by dividing homosexuality into two categories; aggravated homosexuality and the offense of homosexuality.

‘Aggravated homosexuality’ is defined as gay acts committed by parents or authority figures, HIV-positive people, pedophiles and repeat offenders. If convicted, they will face the death penalty.

The ‘offense of homosexuality’ includes same-sex sexual acts or being in a gay relationship, and will be prosecuted by life imprisonment. - source 1, source 2
This makes me so sad, and so angry. How can the promise of punishment and death for other human beings be a "Christmas gift"? Just horrible. Beyond words, really.

Not to mention the fact that Uganda has many, many other things it could be focusing on in the furtherance of Ugandan society.
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 06:26 PM   #2
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Wow. ****ing sickening.
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 06:30 PM   #3
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If any first world countries are sending aid there it should stop immediately to send a message. If they want to act like cavemen we can make sure they feel like cavemen.
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 06:37 PM   #4
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If any first world countries are sending aid there it should stop immediately to send a message. If they want to act like cavemen we can make sure they feel like cavemen.
There has been international outrage over this bill for some time, it was first introduced in 2009, and was shelved for awhile in response to the outcry. Looks like they no longer give a rat's. The UK I believe has already said they won't deal with Uganda in any form or fashion if they pass it. Still, people are likely going to die over this.
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This is considered progress in Africa?
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Lol, I am laughing so hard as according to that law, being HIV-positive will be taken as "Aggravated Homosexuality". I wonder what will happen to those macho guys in Uganda that rape virgins to "cure" themselves of being HIV. Well in any case, what about women or men who are straight and became HIV positive due to a mishap. Anyways, idiotic law in an idiotic 4th world country (5th world country in my eyes).
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When you guys say "we" as in "we should stop this", who is we?
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We as in the west. We may not be able to intervene directly but we can shut off their aid andwe can shut down the people funding those fanatics from our soil. We can also impose tradesanctions onthem.
Ok. I'm all for not funding groups like this. Any military intervention or funding rebel groups, however, wouldn't do much good, if any.
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Who is funding the activists and clerics that push for this. We need to find them wherever they are, dry up their funding and declare them sponsors of state terrorism and prosecute them.
Chick-Fil-A's Winshape Foundation
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com...12/08/01/45430

Conservative U.S. Christian groups
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1699610.html
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CAPE TOWN, South Africa -- Conservative U.S. Christian groups are setting up fronts in Africa to fight for anti-gay and anti-abortion legislation to promote their convictions, a report by a Boston-based think tank said Tuesday.
It accuses evangelical stars such as Pat Robertson and Rick Warren as well as Catholic and Mormon groups of setting up institutions and campaigns in Africa that are "fanning the flames of the culture wars over homosexuality and abortion by backing prominent African campaigners and political leaders."
Scott Lively, Rick Warren, Dan Schmierer of the ex-gay group Exodus International
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The best-known example of these efforts is Uganda’s Anti-Homosexuality Bill. Introduced in the fall of 2009, the bill imposed the death penalty for certain homosexual acts and criminalized human-rights advocacy on behalf of sexual minorities. It grew directly out of a well-attended conference, the “Seminar on Exposing the Truth behind Homosexuality and the Homosexual Agenda,” that took place in the capital, Kampala, in March. To put on the conference, the Uganda-based Family Life Network, which is supported by U.S. Christian-right groups, teamed with two leading anti-gay activists from the States, Holocaust revisionist Scott Lively and Dan Schmierer of the ex-gay group Exodus International. The seminar attracted high-profile religious leaders, parliamentarians, police officers, teachers, and concerned parents. I videotaped the proceedings.

The marquee speaker was Lively, head of the anti-gay Abiding Truth Ministries in Massachusetts and author of The Pink Swastika, which claims that homosexuals invented Nazism and were instrumental in the Holocaust. Lively began his anti-gay campaigning in the early 1990s as communications director of the Oregon Citizens Alliance (OCA), which sponsored a spate of ballot initiatives to deny civil rights and state benefits to LGBT people. The OCA warned of the alleged homosexual threat to children. Ballot Measure 9, which failed in 1992, would have added this text to the state’s constitution: “All governments in Oregon may not use their monies or properties to promote, encourage or facilitate homosexuality, pedophilia, sadism or masochism. All levels of government, including public education systems, must assist in setting a standard for Oregon’s youth which recognizes that these behaviors are abnormal, wrong, unnatural and perverse and they are to be discouraged and avoided.”

Lively told his Ugandan audience that a powerful global gay movement had now set its sights on Africa. The “gay agenda” unleashes epidemics of divorce, child abuse, and HIV/AIDS wherever it gains a foothold, he said. If you allow homosexuality, he said, “you can’t stop someone from molesting children or stop them from having sex with animals.” He also suggested that the Rwandan genocide was the handiwork of homosexuals.

Lively accompanied his fearmongering with an argument that has particular resonance in sub-Saharan Africa: that the spread of LGBT rights is a Western idea—a postcolonial plot to destroy traditional African culture. He spoke of “the people coming to Africa now” to promote human rights for LGBT people, saying, “Many of them are outright liars, and they are manipulating history.They are manipulating facts in order to push their political agenda.”

The idea that gay rights are not human rights was hardly a new one for Lively’s listeners. A year earlier, it had been put more clearly and succinctly by the most influential U.S. evangelical leader in Africa, Rick Warren, head of the Saddleback “megachurch” in California and author of the best-seller The Purpose-Driven Life. During a visit with political leaders in Rwanda, Uganda, and Kenya, Warren had declared, “Homosexuality is not a natural way of life and thus not a human right.”
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