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Old Nov 13, 2012, 08:24 PM   #1
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Thumbs down Why isn't Siri on iPad 2?

So as of right now, has there been any possible reason as to why Siri is not available on the iPad 2, but is available on iPad Mini? Some argue that it's for "selling" newer devices. But realistically, I doubt it'll stop people who have an iPad 2 from upgrading if they really wanted to. Did Apple comment about it or left it in the dark as usual?
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Old Nov 13, 2012, 08:28 PM   #2
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Same Cpu, same ram, smaller screen. I dont know, if it can run the same ios then siri should be enable for Ipad 2. Not that i wanted to use it but i feel this but i feel it is the case with Iphone 4 as well.
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Old Nov 13, 2012, 09:13 PM   #3
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Siri could be on the 2 if apple wanted. Honestly though I hardly ever use Siri on the ipad.
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Old Nov 13, 2012, 09:23 PM   #4
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I've often heard people on here state that it's because of their agreement with the company they purchased Siri from, that they could only bring it to new products and not old ones, which is why we've only seen it on products launched since the iPhone 4S.

Whether that's true or not, I have no idea but I guess that is a possibility.

*this is not to be confused with the voice dictation feature recently added to older Macs via Mountain Lion
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Old Nov 13, 2012, 10:05 PM   #5
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Siri is more of a novelty IMO yet. It works but by chance only.
Still faster to rely on a browser than rely on a prediction.

I hope the idea is advanced further. Until it is, there's still google.
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Old Nov 13, 2012, 10:15 PM   #6
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There is an app called Evi that is similar to Siri. It worked on my previous iPhone 4. It should be comparable with iPad 2.
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Old Nov 13, 2012, 10:22 PM   #7
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I've often heard people on here state that it's because of their agreement with the company they purchased Siri from, that they could only bring it to new products and not old ones, which is why we've only seen it on products launched since the iPhone 4S.

Whether that's true or not, I have no idea but I guess that is a possibility.

*this is not to be confused with the voice dictation feature recently added to older Macs via Mountain Lion
This is what I've heard too and it makes since to me. Basically they contracted to be able to lisence the use of Siri from this point (whenever the agreement occured) forward. My guess is it will be a similar agreement with the new clock design they've recently lisenced.
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Old Nov 13, 2012, 11:34 PM   #8
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I thought someone from Apple said it was because of the audio processor used in the iPad 2 and iPhone 4 - not good enough background noise rejection which makes voice commands even more unreliable.
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Old Nov 14, 2012, 12:05 AM   #9
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I thought someone from Apple said it was because of the audio processor used in the iPad 2 and iPhone 4 - not good enough background noise rejection which makes voice commands even more unreliable.
Yeah i heard this as well from in an another forum
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Old Nov 14, 2012, 12:45 AM   #10
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Siri is more of a novelty IMO yet. It works but by chance only.
Still faster to rely on a browser than rely on a prediction.

I hope the idea is advanced further. Until it is, there's still google.

went to play with 4s siri at the shop nearby. It's actually quite accurate of what i was saying even in some noisy environment. I mean real noisy, so many people playing with ipad and i didnt use earphone with mic, i just speak into the device mic. Although, the thing is useless in thailand.
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Old Nov 14, 2012, 08:51 AM   #11
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Siri is more of a novelty IMO yet. It works but by chance only.
Still faster to rely on a browser than rely on a prediction.

I hope the idea is advanced further. Until it is, there's still google.
I actually have extremely good success with Siri. Very little trouble with the speech-to-text though I've been using a speech recognition dictation systems at work for nearly 11 years so I've gotten very good at annunciating everything very clearly and properly.

I send text messages thru Siri all the time and it only has problems with proper names and other odd words. But again, I'm probably an atypical user in that I'm very used to computer speech recognition and I don't add pauses, "uh" or "umm" or other sounds like trailing S's or R's which might effect accuracy.
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Old Nov 14, 2012, 11:08 AM   #12
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It isn't a technical issue. It's a selling point. You are buying a device with or without Siri, and paying for the feature accordingly.

Just wait, new hardware in the fall will come with new features *exclusive* to them. People will /upgrade\ to a new device because of a software feature, and that's a fact.

It's all about the money.
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Old Nov 14, 2012, 11:28 AM   #13
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Siri is more of a novelty IMO yet. It works but by chance only.
Still faster to rely on a browser than rely on a prediction.

I hope the idea is advanced further. Until it is, there's still google.
I disagree. There are many tasks that Siri performs consistently well. It's much easier to say, "Siri, set the timer for x minutes", without ever leaving the app I'm using than it is to press the home button, search for the clock, click on timer, scroll through the numbers, etc.. You may not use it, but it is useful.
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Old Nov 14, 2012, 11:58 AM   #14
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novelty or not, just a bummer that the device is capable of the action but not on the device
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Old Nov 14, 2012, 02:45 PM   #15
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More lame is that Apple failed to put Siri on TV. Google beat them to the punch:

http://gizmodo.com/5960455/google-ju...v-voice-search
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More lame is that Apple failed to put Siri on TV. Google beat them to the punch:

http://gizmodo.com/5960455/google-ju...v-voice-search
Apple has had a whole series of Siri commercials already.

Edit: never mind, I see you were referring to Siri functionality thru the TV, and not advertised on TV.
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I believe the iPad 2 lacks a noise canceling mic. No way for Siri to hear your request.
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Old Nov 15, 2012, 03:50 AM   #18
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Apple needs to ramp up their data-centers to support all the iOS devices.

Right now, Siri is kinda slow and at times not available.

Still in beta ==> upgrading data-centers
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