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Old Nov 15, 2012, 04:53 PM   #51
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As long as it shuts up the Googlephiles, I'm all for it, but there is no way in hell that it's going to get installed on our iPhones.

In the mean time, for anyone who wants Google maps or Street View on iOS 6, they can get them here: maps.google.com
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Old Nov 15, 2012, 04:54 PM   #52
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True. However, if it comes with free turn-by-turn navigation, that will be a feature Google never provided before. Maybe it will work out for the best in the end. We'll have Apple Maps, Google Maps, and Nokia Maps, all with turn-by-turn, at no additional cost.
heh heh, agreed. I was laughing so hard when I read this news. Look like Google decide to fold on this map "war" now that Apple map is improving and Nokia map is on the horizon. Google want to hold Apple hostage because they have superior map apps and try to use the turn by turn to get Apple to agree branding Google map and most importantly insert Google Latitude into the IOS device. Google latitude is a big deal. It is the base for future location base apps. Essentially Google want to control IOS map direction in anything relate to location dependent function. Now if Google is putting the map back into IOS without getting anything in return. They are essentially folding and decided that they need to save the revenue generated by the map instead of trying to make in road in controlling IOS future.. I guess Apple win this round of corporate poker playing. If I were running Apple, I would just sit on the app application for 6 to 9 months until Nokia map or Apple map are fully entrench before approving the Google map app .. And users will get a deal out of this chaos with 3 map choices next year... What is not to love about it....


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Spoken turn-by-turn navigation has been a free service offered through Google’s Android mobile OS for a few years now. But it was never part of the deal that brought Google’s Maps to iOS. And sources say Apple very much wanted it to be. Requiring iPhone users to look directly at handsets for directions and manually move through each step — while Android users enjoyed native voice-guided instructions — put Apple at a clear disadvantage in the mobile space. And having chosen Google as its original mapping partner, the iPhone maker was now in a position where an archrival was calling the shots on functionality important to the iOS maps feature set.

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And if there were terms under which it might have agreed to do so, Apple wasn’t offering them. Sources tell AllThingsD that Google, for example, wanted more say in the iOS maps feature set. It wasn’t happy simply providing back-end data. It asked for in-app branding. Apple declined. It suggested adding Google Latitude. Again, Apple declined. And these became major points of contention between the two companies, whose relationship was already deteriorating for a variety of other reasons, including Apple’s concern that Google was gathering too much user data from the app.
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Old Nov 15, 2012, 04:56 PM   #53
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gosh, Apple, don't be stubborn, give us Google Maps back !
Would've been nice if Google wasn't stubborn in the first place.
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Old Nov 15, 2012, 04:57 PM   #54
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to make Maps functional*****
Google's YouTube app is still a complete piece of crap on the iPad. Intentionally so.

I wouldn't hold out hope for a Google Maps app for iOS to be any better.
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Old Nov 15, 2012, 04:57 PM   #55
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Google Maps?

No Thanks. Pass
Cool - cay! Don't let the door hit u on your way out!

We miss street view and most importantly DATA on poi locations!!

Who gives a flying f about flyover?!?!

NOBODY! That's who!
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Old Nov 15, 2012, 04:59 PM   #56
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Unlike Google's Maps app that was included with iOS 5 and earlier
I thought the older maps app was actually made by Apple, and just accessed Google's maps data....?
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Old Nov 15, 2012, 05:00 PM   #57
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If Google includes turn-by-turn in their app now, why didn't they just do it before? Wasn't Google's refusal to include this feature, part of the reason Apple dropped their maps app in the first place?
And this way Google doesn't get payment from Apple for the Google Maps.

On top of all of the advertising revenue (and let's be clear, it's future advertising revenue that's the issue) that Google lost when Apple's Maps went live with iOS 6.
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Old Nov 15, 2012, 05:00 PM   #58
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Apple maps have been interesting, especially with Siri control, "Navigate Home", "Navigate to Natraj Tandoori" and away you go, pretty usefull stuff that I've not gotten from my expensive mapper apps.

BUT, Apple, please consider adding a NIGHT MODE, I frickken hate a bright white screen at night, seems like a basic feature, really.

Looking forward to seeing what Google can do, I'd gladly pay something for a decent app if they add the value that Google could bring.
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Old Nov 15, 2012, 05:01 PM   #59
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I thought the older maps app was actually made by Apple, and just accessed Google's maps data....?
Correct.
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Old Nov 15, 2012, 05:01 PM   #60
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The icon is telling people to drive left and fall off the bridge. lol
I thought I was crazy for thinking this too. Even the icon is bad!
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Old Nov 15, 2012, 05:02 PM   #61
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Would've been nice if Google wasn't stubborn in the first place.
Yeah because it was only google being stubborn
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Old Nov 15, 2012, 05:04 PM   #62
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The main benefit of Google Maps app at this point would be if you rely on their transit navigation, something Apple Maps lacks outright.
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Old Nov 15, 2012, 05:04 PM   #63
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If Google includes turn-by-turn in their app now, why didn't they just do it before?
The Maps app in iOS 5 and earlier is written by Apple, not Google. Apple licensed the data displayed by that version of the Maps app from Google. Apple's licence to use the data did not permit them to implement turn-by-turn navigation.

Same goes for the YouTube app built in to iOS 5 and earlier - it was written by Apple.

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Wasn't Google's refusal to include this feature, part of the reason Apple dropped their maps app in the first place?
The rumour is that Apple wanted turn-by-turn navigation, but Google wasn't willing to allow Apple to offer that feature in Apple's own app, without Apple giving Google something else in return (such as gathering more data from iOS map users, or showing more targetted ads supplied by Google). Apple wasn't willing to compromise on those points, so they decided to switch to their own map data instead of continuing to use Google's data.

If the Google Maps app is eventually released, it will of course be doing all the things that Google wanted and Apple didn't want. At least users will have a choice whether to get the Google Maps app and its different set of map data (usually better at the moment), but in return have to submit to yet more data collection by Google. This is not likely to be obvious to the average user.
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Old Nov 15, 2012, 05:07 PM   #64
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Once a dominant player, G Maps is no longer a crowned king. Turn-by-turn feature on Android is subpar compared to Waze or other paid products. With Apple Maps continue to improve, and the imminent release of Nokia's HERE, it may be a little too late for Google to win mindshare, all for the deadly mistake of holding back TBT feature for iOS. Last but not least, map cache needs to improve for offline nav in no signal situations.
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Old Nov 15, 2012, 05:11 PM   #65
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Too bad it wont integrate fully with iOS anymore
That's a feature. Google doesn't need to know my whereabouts on a 24x7 basis.
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Old Nov 15, 2012, 05:12 PM   #66
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Do clients invent as well? Oh, sorry i forgot. Invention brings no money.
Inventions don't make you rich; patents do!

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Old Nov 15, 2012, 05:12 PM   #67
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I don't know. The new maps app has worked just fine for me. I know, I know, that doesn't mean that it is fine for everyone.

Although, it doesn't seem to incorporate traffic info too well. If I want to navigate around traffic, I'll use Waze.
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Old Nov 15, 2012, 05:18 PM   #68
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Please Google, release the Maps app soon. Apple Maps is slowly killing me now, forcing me to use your mobile site. Hope you will come up with an iPad YouTube app as well!
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If Google includes turn-by-turn in their app now, why didn't they just do it before? Wasn't Google's refusal to include this feature, part of the reason Apple dropped their maps app in the first place?
Supposedly one of the deal breakers was that Google wanted to have their Latitude service available on the iPhone, in return for navigation and vector maps. Apple refused.

As for dropping Google maps altogether, many people think a major factor was simply that Apple is in the process of trying to get away from too much dependence on its new competitors (Samsung and Google).
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Old Nov 15, 2012, 05:20 PM   #70
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Maps!

If Apple were to deny Google's great maps and turn-by-turn directions, I will sell my iphone and get an android. Google's voice on the turn-by-turns sounds like a real human, it's cool as heck!
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Old Nov 15, 2012, 05:22 PM   #71
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I hope Apple lets this and other similar apps into the store. Not only would I like to have some options, but competition will push all of them to get better, including Apple maps.
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Sweet news bt funny enough, when apple maps gets better, ppl gonna switch back
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Old Nov 15, 2012, 05:27 PM   #73
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The icon is telling people to drive left and fall off the bridge. lol
I was starting to wonder if I was the only one that noticed that!
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Old Nov 15, 2012, 05:28 PM   #74
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Cool - cay! Don't let the door hit u on your way out!

We miss street view and most importantly DATA on poi locations!!

Who gives a flying f about flyover?!?!

NOBODY! That's who!
I can do Street View from a browser. POI can easily be added on or I can leverage something like Foursquare's data.

Apple did the right thing wrt to Maps on iOS and if so many people weren't on their knees giving Google a Bravo Juliet they'd wipe off their mouth and do some research.
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I thought the older maps app was actually made by Apple, and just accessed Google's maps data....?
True, but Apple would have needed to negotiate access to Google's data in order to implement turn-by-turn navigation.
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